It is totally true. When I was with a girl, according to the method, I should say some materials, but it usually ended up making her laugh, avoid seeing her eyes in fear of showing IOI or say other stuff to qualify myself because MM teach me man should contribute most of the conversation.

Then in her eyes, I was just a diffident guy who tried to say something interesting to cater her and who could not look at her eyes. It was true, I was not confident when I still acted like confident. It was a big joke for me. So sad.

Speaking from little experience, I get the impression that PUA involves substantial life improvement and approaching one's greatest fear.

Though I am nowhere near that point, one would assume that reaching the comfort point in one's skills leads to bigger choices, long term plans vs. short term desires.

There it is more down to the individual than to the method.

It is just a mind set and you are trapped into it. Get real, man. For example, if you are raised in an environment everyone believes in God, you will definitely believe in God. If you are raised in an atheism environment, you will not believe there is God.

It is the same for this community. What we should do is to open our mind.

Read 60 years of challenge. Search Natural Attraction Blog. You will change your mind.

Depends on your attitude but for sure. You can overanalyze everything and act like a robot too much and screw up before you even start

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Just trying to meet a 10.

One thing more.

I was taught to look at people's eyes when talking when I was little. Then I heard a lot that we should not stare people's eyes because it will drive people crazy. Then I leaned The Mystery Method, I was taught it was an indicator of interest.

Then I totally screw up. I became the man who dare not see people's eyes. This is how the MM harm me though MM still have a lot of good things.

Fortunately, 60 saves me.

I am not the one who always stare every person relentlessly. I can feel the tension and then I would turn away a bit. However, the time I stare people increases a lot. I see the diffident self from other people's eyes and expression.

I accept more other women's IOI. I do not worry that I should do something to keep the IOI. I just have to look back to their eyes. It is great.

There is a dangerous and harmful assumption here and in the community.

It is that we are the only one should be responsible for the conversation. It is that we are the only one should be responsible for the pickup.

No, it is totally wrong.

I had this mindset before and I became a person who worried too much, who analyzed too much, who attributed all failure to myself. My ego, self-esteem, and myself suffered. In this situation, how can I be confident????

Right. Attraction is simple. We see a beautiful girl. Then it is on. It is same for a straight woman. Just introduce yourself, hold eye contacts, hold hands and it is on.

really no need to say some "intelligent" words.

I still admit that the skill of neg, dhv, ioi, dhv, qualification, etc. is like magic. However, not everyone can be a good artist even if you are intelligent and working hard. Moreover, women are not stupid, they will analyze you too. If you are not congruent, women and men will both realize this. This is one of the reason to look at women when another man is talking. You both see each other and have a smile with a subtle meaning that this man is acting. That is so cool.

If you say some good lines when it is on. The lines will definitely kill the attraction and seduction feeling. Then it became awkward, and to avoid this awkward feeling, you kept saying your smart materials. Finally, you run out of your materials and you feel fidgeting, but you also feel great because what you say makes this girl smile.

Then???? You don't know what to say anymore!!!! You don't pay credit for the normal lines!!! If you turn to your normal "boring" mode, you will feel it is so boring and worry she will leave. Then you are so timid and say pleasure meet you.

Then you screw up yourself by using intelligent lines to decline a beautiful girl who are into you.

It is not "you", it is me.

I have screw up at least two beautiful girls who like me and whom I like as well because of the Mystery Method.

yes, pua will make you worse if you hang about with the wrong people

Always be careful as to what lairs, forums and wings you hang about with - there's plenty of trolls out there

If you look at people's mouth then you can learn to read lips!!

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Don't let routines, and fake feelings be a shell surrounding your true self. It will only break, and you will be left at step 1

One has to be careful not to fall into the matrix with this pua stuff. Everything you read says the same things over and over! Neg her; when she says this you do this; move your body like this, and she will react like this. At times it gets to be so analytical to the point of insanity.

MM method is crazy in my opinion. The man who wrote is crazy, and that is not to say he is not smart-there's a difference, yet to some degree they coincide with each other.
This is not say that I haven't learned anything from his, or anyone else's book, but what I notice is that it's geared towards people who may have no social status, or skills at all. This can be bad to ones mind from reading these things over, and over, and over.

I love women, and yet I don't like women. The ole saying, you can't live with'em, and you can't live with out 'em holds som much truth in my mind.

I can say this though, by being out of it for the past year I see how it helped me control failures not only in women, but in life. Pua is a skill that helps with LIFE, not just with women.

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Don't let routines, and fake feelings be a shell surrounding your true self. It will only break, and you will be left at step 1