ok so this HB7.5 who went to highschool with me (i graduated 2 days ago) has shown me some IoI's we had reharsels for the gradtuatuion party/ceremony whatever and she always came to sit on me and hugged me and put her head on my chest like a little kitten... we were all that time along with other people so i didn't have a chance to K-close... then we met again just to chill and i came with my friend and she came alone and i was'nt so nice to her just because i was'nt in the mood for her and she might have took it personally.. then she backed off and i supposed we're back to the friend-zone (we were friends for like 2 years but there was some tension, she was really mad of me when i had a thing with one of her friend like she'd care) so i called her yesterday and just chatted on life after highschool, what are you going to do in the army and all that stuff.. (im israeli) so the last night i went to bed early and when i woke up i saw she texted me in like 2:30AM~ "daniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" so i texted her back in the morning "what?" and she said "haha i was just bored as hell"
what do you think, where do i stand? it's really hard for me to figure what's going on...

Dude, when a girl texts you at dawn, as long as she's not partying, you can bet your sorry pwet that she's in intrusive thinking mode. Her emotions are swinging from like to love. She can't sleep and she's thinking about you.

Go for it.

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thanks for that man, but isn't a chance she was just really bored and texted me as a buddy?

Zero percent chance on boredom. Girls burn the phone lines with their lady friends. In her head, you're a lover material rather than a friend.

Why do I know this? My best friend is a woman. She never texts me at dawn. I also have sorority sisters. The ones that do text me wanted phone sex and more after that.

Girls I sarge who text me at dawn are 100% sure they want something more than friendship. Go for it.

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ok got it, so what would you do next? just keep on talking and set up a meeting for definite purpose or just wait for the night and do what she did ? my biggest sticking point i guess i "organizing" the meeting, once im alone with a girl together, i make her luagh and make her attracted to me by conversation skills but i have problems setting those meetings... what would you advice?

Phone/Text Game

You: I'm buying some cod fish at the mall. Come. It'll be fun

Scenario 1

Her: Okay.
You: Meet you at the street corner/Pick you up at your place. 8:30 a.m.

Scenario 2

Her: I'm busy right now but I'm free on Saturday.
You: Hmm. Let me see... I have a meeting to go to on Saturday. I'll see what I can do. I'll get back to you later.

After one hour or two hours...

You: Saturday is it. Meet you at the street corner/Pick you up at your place. 8:30 a.m. We'll have a picnic at the park.

Scenario 3

Her: Uhm. I'll think about it.
You: Cool. I'll just tag along Diane then.

Pointers.

• 1. You always take the lead in the conversation.
  
  2. You're busy. If she doesn't come, so what? You'll ask out another girl then.
  
  3. If she's genuinely not available but is available on another day, don't be an ass. But don't be too eager to jump at the hoop either. Create a suspense. 'Cancel a meeting' with your dog that you're going to take on an early morning walk for his poop routines.

Face-to-face Game

You: Let's go.
Her: Where?
You: You'll have fun.
Her: Where?
You: It's a surprise. Let's go.

Final Note

People can still fuck a good attraction up. Don't mess the f-close up by appearing too eager, being too needy, unsure of where to go, unsure if she will come with you or not and so on. In short, assume that it's already a done deal. Make her horny. Check out Warped Mindless' ESP Escalation Guide at the PUA Lounge.

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so today we were in the same party and she sat on the side and smoked a cigerrety i came and talked to her while making her luagh, i started talking to her i put my hand across her wrist and then she says "no hands" wtf?

Shit test if you ask me. Or you did it in a really, in mean REALLY creepy way.
Did she have a serious face when she said that or was it more like playful?

They don't want to give themself up too easy. I was once with a girl (who FZ me actually) who rejected me when i went to kiss her - it was like this: I said "Give me a kiss", she did (on a cheek) but I turned towards her lips so that "corners" of our lips touched. She was like "AAaa you can't just kiss me like that!" but with a smile on her face. Anyway, after 15 minutes of talking her into it (not really *into* it, I was just rationalizing it for her because she has a boyfriend (and yeah, this doesn't change anything, which actually dissapoints me)) I said "Ok, then nothing, lets go!" and wanted to stand up. She said NO! and pulled me back. Then I just repeated the kissing part.
When done correctly, this "I dont care, I can walk away and have no regrets" attitude is mindblowing. Even now, when I do it I can not believe how effective it is.

Because I have a feeling that you're dealing with typical FZ situation here tell me, how much kino do you do on this girl? And i mean YOU, her hugging you doesn't count.

Another thing that I find very effective is when you block or evade when SHE wants physical contact like hugging, kissing on the cheek. Any along you can do some kino; when you block her hug, you could block it with putting your hand slightly below her neck and push her away gently, while letting your hand slide down her body (you get the idea). And because you do this in like a second, she can't object because it all happenes too fast for her to process.
And if she gets too emotional about it, you just ignore it and put on another topic. But in most cases you will get playful, positive response (evading a kiss might get you slight slap on your face, but she will do it with a smile. If it gets too serious, you can always say "I'm just playing with you"-you will let her know that YOU control the contact, not her.)

But again, how much kino?

To calibrate your kino, learn the eye fuck routine, here: 2-vt136689.html?start=15

If you're not yet sure how the dilation of the pupils of the eyes look like, read my description here: 1-vt138458.html?start=0

The human mating rituals like animal mating rituals are elaborate and precise. Miss one sequence and you get blown off even when the girl likes you already. Sometimes you get lucky but if you can read her eyes, your seduction will be a lot easier than not knowing how to read her eyes at all.

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well there have been enough kino i guess... normally i can just sit across her, hug her and she will put her head on my chest and i can put my hand on her upper-leg without being interupted... the problem that she became an easy target for me so i always change my mind from "well i don't really want her she's not that hot" to "well i would'nt mind fucking her offcourse" but by being somewhere in the middle she probably became confused and wanted to cut the bullshit.

Haha ok so you need to decide if you want her or not first

And you need to escalade. If you can get your hand on her leg you shouldn't just leave it there, you should "play with her leg" a bit. and escalade from there, maybe play with her hair or something.

But there could be another problem here. Maybe she doesn't want to do anything in "public". You should get her isolated and then try escalading. And if you can get her isolated, in your arms, with your hand on her leg, you should go for a kiss. 90% chance this will work if you do some kino push/pull before that, otherwise just back off, talk some more, do some more kino and go in for the kill again. If even that doesn't work, then do freezout like "Let's go, we're going home." On that point she will either pull you back, or you will show that you are not needy and you get to keep the friend. Win-win situation.

This is in the bag dude. Follow Mago812's instructions on how to escalate and you're good.

Just to make sure you get your f-close, use these easy sexual attraction multipliers for insurance:

• 1. Wear a blood red shirt. Scientific studies indicate that this is true for many cultures around the world, including animals. A blood red color will increase your sexual attractiveness by at least 33%.
  
  2. Eye fuck her. A scientific study noted that your sexual attractiveness will increase at least +60% for many women.
  
  3. Workout before you meet her. Take a shower first before the workout. Not the other way around. You will release a lot of your body chemicals through the workout and women unconsciously smell this and make them more sexually attracted to you. The percentage increase in your sexual attractiveness is variable and depends on your body's physiology.

You can easily do these three things. The principle is you double your sexual attractiveness. For instance, wearing a red shirt and eye fucking her gets you to around 94% of additional sexual attraction from the girl. These are field tested bro. Use them.

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So next time I'm out sarging I'm going to wear a red shirt, workout and smell like complete shit, and just dead stare and imagine myself fucking the shit out of a girl, and that's going to increase my sexual attractiveness? If I launch a shit rocket in my pants, will she subconsciously smell it and be attracted to? Where's the scientific study for that one?
Cool af.

Shower first before the workout. After 4 hours, you'll smell like shit from the bacteria thriving off the sweat from your body; especially in hot or tropical climates. The sexual hormones are basically odorless but women can smell these. Go to the PUA lounge and look at my thread for the links to the scientific studies if you want to dig deeper.

The measurements are done in a laboratory environment while as pick up artists, we don't measure our sarges accurately with scientific equipment and devices-- so we don't objectively know what works really well. Science helps us identify what works really well versus bullshit claims from some scammer PUA guru. Some PUAs in this forum who use scientifically grounded techniques are: Stelar, vicparkguy83, Warped Mindless, Ezo, Chief, SexAddict, Cowboy, Heywood Jablowme and many others. Many have bullshit crap though so learn how to distinguish the crap from the gems.

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So if I smell like shit, subconsciously she might find me attractive, but consciously she's going to think I smell like shit. And that's unattractive. So which of these is she going to act on? The conscious or the subconscious? Obviously the conscious. So how the fuck does that work? Correct me if I'm misunderstanding this.