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So i read the text. I just dont know what i should write. These are some general, basic informations about body language. There are no tips how to behave. Im not sure mentioned things are used by all people. From what i have seen it really depends.
I have been out to observe some people, but i dont think they were strangers. I dont think its common for strangers to get to know each others on the street.
Maybe i visited wrong places. Im from Europe, maybe its different.


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Can pumpington, or anyone help me and tell what i should do?
Hmmm... I've read the thread, and I've listened to the advice (much has been great, Pumpington is a sage)...

So here's what you should do:


STOP MAKING FUCKING EXCUSES.

You 'can't' talk to women? Bullshit. You WON'T. You have the ability, you have the wherewithal, you just don't have the fucking balls.

Until you admit this yourself and are WILLING to overcome it - you're only wasting time here. Until you can grasp the concept that it's just conversation - you're going to be jacking that cock like your mad at it for YEARS.

You have the lovelife you WANT to have. If you don't want to talk to chicks - that's on you and nobody else. Don't fucking say you can't.

How do you meet chicks without talking to them? Who the fuck are you? Don't they deserve at least CONVERSATION with you? Are oyu that fucking incredible that you're above them? It's all in the paradigm.

Your AA is paralyzing due to your own self-confidence issues. Until you understand this - it's pointless to write anything further.

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Listen RetiredRodeo.
Im not making excuses. I wanted to point out im non talkative because i am such person. I dont like talking. To anyone. I talk very little. I wanted to describe myself to get appropriate advice which will help me reach my goal.
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You 'can't' talk to women? Bullshit.
I cant talk to anyone to be honest. And i am here because i hope to finally find someone who could help me and tell me what i should do and tell to get girl.


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Listen RetiredRodeo.
Im not making excuses. I wanted to point out im non talkative because i am such person. I dont like talking. To anyone. I talk very little. I wanted to describe myself to get appropriate advice which will help me reach my goal.
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You 'can't' talk to women? Bullshit.
I cant talk to anyone to be honest. And i am here because i hope to finally find someone who could help me and tell me what i should do and tell to get girl.
1) LEARN to talk to people by opening up your fucking mouth and trying.

2) Stop being a dick.

3) You're reading/typing right now - it's communication. Unless your fucking tongue fell out - you CAN talk. You just won't.

4) Stop making excuses.

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I dont like talking. I feel better when i dont talk. I know i have to say something, but I want to say as little as possible and have nothing to worry about then. I dont know what is this 'something' i should say.


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I dont like talking.
Thank you. Admitting it is the first step.

By the way, I don't like all the incessant cuddling - but I LOVE fucking, so I compromise.

Get it?

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I know i have to say something, but I want to say as little as possible
I dont know even what to say.

PS. I would like to cuddle a girl. Never done it though.


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Try using that issue AS your conversation.

"I'm a quiet man. I don't like talking very much - but I'm in to you. How do you think I can open up more?"

Take her on the journey of discovery with you. If done well, you may be able to find someone with whom you can actually BE open.

It starts with you. Until you're willing to change - you're where you are.

I'm seriously not trying to be a dick, but not liking to talk is something you can change. You just have to want to.

Open ten sets a day for a month, catalogue the results every time - that is your starting point.

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In high school i had a female friend who i really liked much and i was opened with. I told her once i liked her but she told me shes into someone else and then everything disappeared. That is the only person i was opened to and i could still be but i think that she wouldnt like to see me again. Also everyone said i should forget about her.


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In high school i had a female friend who i really liked much and i was opened with. I told her once i liked her but she told me shes into someone else and then everything disappeared. That is the only person i was opened to and i could still be but i think that she wouldnt like to see me again. Also everyone said i should forget about her.
Why is everything so doom and gloom dude?

She's the ONLY person? So... in a billion women, she's the single-solitary one?

Cool story. I don't buy it.

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Im not open to everyone. I think i wrote that im kind of introvert. I trusted her and she was worth being opened to. Not everyone is.


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So i read the text. I just dont know what i should write. These are some general, basic informations about body language.
Master the basics. In the martial arts and most careers in general, the basics deliver the most effective and efficient results. The basic punch, kick, takedown, or submission always get the athlete that crucial win.

You will seldom use the advanced techniques. Start with the basics first.
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There are no tips how to behave. Im not sure mentioned things are used by all people. From what i have seen it really depends.
You're supposed to observe people so you can copy the nonverbal movements that work and disregard those that don't work first hand. Watch the eyes, hands and feet very closely.

You may have seen those body movements but you HAVE NOT noticed them yet. It's a different thing when you know what patterns you're looking for versus just seeing seemingly random movements.
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I have been out to observe some people, but i dont think they were strangers. I dont think its common for strangers to get to know each others on the street.
Maybe i visited wrong places. Im from Europe, maybe its different.
It's the same dude. In a work environment, I've met with Finnish men and women, a British guy, a Spaniard guy, a French guy, a Swiss guy, and a German guy. I read their body movements, mimic these for more persuasive presentations or conversations, and/or evaluate these movements to make decisions for the company. Part of my work involves negotiation so I know what I'm talking about.

I understand you got traumatized by that HB of yours in high school, hence, you have become less talkative. Fact is, many of us here got traumatized in one way or another by an HB in high school. It's not the girl's fault.

It's our fault as men (not the girl) because we still lacked the skills to properly get the girl or keep her. It's our responsibility as men to learn any skills for our survival-- including getting the girl and keeping her.

Now work on it. :twisted:

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I understand you got traumatized by that HB of yours in high school, hence, you have become less talkative.
I was non talkative before.

I dont see these things in peoples behaviour. I just see them talking. I dont know how to talk. I suck at lot of social situations. I used to read lots of theory. But i have no effects in practical part. I think all this is too difficult and out of my league.


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I dont see these things in peoples behaviour. I just see them talking. I dont know how to talk. I suck at lot of social situations. I used to read lots of theory. But i have no effects in practical part. I think all this is too difficult and out of my league.
You don't see talking. You hear it.

Take a look at the illustrations in this book, http://www.amazon.com/The-Definitive-Bo ... 0553804723 Here, you'll notice familiar movements from day-to-day interactions of people.

This is how to touch girls. No need to talk much.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV4A9KKjb3I[/youtube]

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I know one guy who is touching people every time he talk to someone like guy on the film. And i heard girls insulting him and saying thats weird. Not many people like him for that.

I watched it and i can honestly say i rarely see this in streets. And people rarely make those moves. Not as much as this guy.
Its weird to came up to girl and touch her with those kind of things. You need to say certain things while doing this too. And guy on video said he is natural. Thats not how i am and i wont be comfortable with touching people so often.

All you guys advise me is for someone who is already good but need some tips. Im awkward. I dont know how to do anything of these and i see i will never be good enough to get a girl. That surely is out of my capabilities.


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