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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:40 pm 
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so I started talking with this HB9 a few months ago while she had a boyfriend and we had a really great connection, we spoke for like 4 hours in which I DHVed a lot, but because she was in such a long relationship and i knew her boyfriend i let it go, but we still kept on good connection altough i knew he was cheating on her i did'nt want to stub my nose in their buisness...
so know they broke-up after this really long relationship and i wonder how should i act to be her "rebound" ?
any opinion would be appreciated!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:04 pm 
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If i was in your shoes, i would just wait for a couple of weeks to analyze the situation. If she says something about her ex (even if she complains about him), i would just stop and find new targets. If not, i would tease her about her ex and waits for her reaction, if she becomes anxious with the keywords I say, i would build more attraction with little of comfort then try to bring her to bed that evening. Calibration is the key here, it is just a simple advice (easy to say but hard to do CORRECTLY) so, for now, i just want you to remain calm and be your BEST self. Believe that she is inlove with you and set that frame whenever you are with her and then she WILL begin to BELIEVE it too.

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the problem is that in 3 weeks i would be outside the country for 3-4 months with short stops in between...
i don't have time to "see what's going on" i need to f-close as soon as possible.


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One word: Party.

She's down at the moment, most likely. If you can give her that fun vibe while kino escalating a lot, you'll get your f-close. This isn't theoretical shit. It's field tested many times.

Stay away from the shoulder-to-cry on type of guy. Be the fun guy who erases her hurts away while you're touching her here and there. If you can get her drunk, then that would be an easy as pie f-close. If you can't get her drunk but f-close still, you'll have a fuck of the century in your hands. All of that stress and tension that built up in her due to the break up will be released as extreme horniness.

Btw, there's a thin line between seduction and sexual harassment in cases such as this. So, calibrate your kino escalation well. If she doesn't want it, don't force her. If she says NO but smiles or giggles, that's still an indicator of consent. Learn some LMR strategies in the other sections. Know the limits and boundaries of a sexual offense and a proper seduction. :twisted:

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i intitiated a conversation with her today on facebook cause i never had a chance to ask for her phone cause her ex was always around.. i told her not be sad and to be optimistic and that she has to go out of bed and do something fun, she wrote a long message complaining about her exams.. then she finished her message saying that she is going to delete her facebook account for the time being and wrote her number saying that i should keep it if i would ever want to dial her... i told her that she is the only one i know besides my gramma that says "dial" she laughed and that's it .. would it be legit to call her tomorrow telling her i bought a new ice cream maker machine and im making one now so "do you wanna join me and have some fun?" take in account that she has an exam in thursday and might not be avaible till then and the fact that i have only 3 weeks left...


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i told her that she is the only one i know besides my gramma that says "dial" she laughed and that's it ..
Very few guys can do that. You have a rare skill (making girls laugh) that you can use to your great advantage. Always keep this in mind.
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would it be legit to call her tomorrow telling her i bought a new ice cream maker machine and im making one now so "do you wanna join me and have some fun?" take in account that she has an exam in thursday and might not be avaible till then and the fact that i have only 3 weeks left...
Now, that's a creative way to get an instant date (hang out) that doesn't look like a date. Dates give girls unnecessary pressure so you did well.

Remove the "Do you wanna..." from your vocabulary when talking with girls. These words kill your sexual attractiveness. The more you use these, the more you'll get friend zoned.

Say something like, "Hey. Join me and have some fun. Bring your exam reviewers. It'll be easier for the exam answers to sink in when you're having fun. I'm a badass at Question and Answer type reviews."

Masculine talk directs or commands (join, have, bring). Masculinity and dominance attract feminine women (some women are masculine, you don't want those).

Selling the benefits of the fun is also a good idea. You'll remove any objections that she may have. Besides, it really is easier to remember facts when you're having fun.

Engage her in a tickle fight or pillow fight. You'll know what to do after that. :twisted:

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Everything ^^ guy said is legit advice. You'd be very wise to listen to him.

Don't even offer advice on the breakup. If you play the consoler, gives-you-advice-role, that's what she'll take you for. If you play the guy independent of all the drama, just-having-fun-and-you're-welcome-to-join, she'll take you for that.

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Yes...the "tickle fight" is key. If she decides to come with you for "fun" then you damn better deliver.

I actually wanted to comment on kino/sexual escalation, heed Hellhound. I escalated once past the 4th time, and the girl punched me in the face. She kept saying omg im so sorry bla bla bla. Had me see her again (after i told her i didnt want her pity hangouts) and then eventually took off her clothes herself (i dont know..she had this weird 7th date only sex thing...like she counted).

It was Date 2 for me.


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well so i called her now and i did'nt intorduce myself i opened the conversation in "i'll tell you a sentence try to identify who it is" so i told her a sentence i use a lot with girls as part from a negging routine i always finish it with "honesty for me is a supreme value" which makes me seem like a man with prinicples not a random asshole so she immidietly recgonized me with entushiasam then i told her "i bought a new ice-cream machine and im planning to make some ice-cream so come and join" she instantly said "wow, i'd really love to" and i missunderstood her by saying impulsivly "ok so im heading to the gym now, i'll pick u up later ok?" and she said "oh no, i tought you were talking genreally and said she has this big history exam on thursday and she has to learn" , i said "oh ok" and negged her a bit for studying all the time.. then i made her luagh a bit and she said smt like "it's not too bad you can make ice-cream with someone else" and i said "well it's not that it's not so bad, it's even better now i can find myself a more happy companion, the pool of people who applied is very big.." then i finished the conversation and said "i have to finish and we'll make ice-cream some other time" she said off course and that's it ... i think i made her really a good time during the conversation cause she laughed a lot and it was a mood changer after a break-up and during an exam learning... should i just follow her exam scheduale (it's on the net) and tell her to come the same way i did when she would finish?


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she called me now and i asked what she wanted and she said "i wanted someone to cheer me up.. and you are funny so..." i told her that im fixing the air condition with my uncle and i'll talk to her later... am i on the right way or do you consider it to be like she thinks of me like the comforting guy?


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It appears that you're an easy kill. You're always available for her. Break rapport sometimes. Instead of calling her after your chores, 'forget' calling her for the next 2 days. Give her the gift of missing you.

Also, don't give her immediate gratification on the phone. She should get her high from you in person. When you see her in person, do the eye fuck routine on her. :twisted:

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ok so i'll break rapport by not contacting her for the next three days (until her exam) and if she does contacts me i would tell her im busy and i'll return her call.. but i will forget doing that.


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she now sent a sms "hi, sorry for not calling you yesterday, i was studying.. i'll call you later."


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she now sent a sms "hi, sorry for not calling you yesterday, i was studying.. i'll call you later."
Ignore it. She's assumed the position that you NEED her.

Responding to that can only go south for you. Don't even acknowledge it. If she brings it up in text - ignore it. If she brings it up in person then "I don't remember thinking you HAD to call me? What was so important that you're apologizing for it now?"

Then you take back her perceived control. You steal her frame.

Hellhound has nailed this for you dude. As I was reading your posts, I was thinking the exact same things he's written.


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PS: If she calls later, ANSWER IT. Be upbeat, energetic... and then cut her off MID-SENTENCE and plant an exit. You're upbeat - you're cool - you're smiling - you're funny... then you drop a reason and hang up. Leave her wanting more. If you fail to answer and she calls - then you come across as if you're pouting. Answer if she calls, but YOU direct the conversation and the end of it.

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first of all, thanks for all the help, you're helping me to improve,please keep it going
ok so she called now and i answered her.. we talked on the phone for 20 minuets whilst i was making her luagh and DHV a bit by finishing my last exam tomorrow, while she has another year in high-school, and i also told her that im going to be out of the country for the next 3-4 months she was sad about that and said that it's a pitty cause she wanted to get to know me better and be in touch, because im so funny to her and some other compliment... i tend to see this kind of direct approval like "i wanted to know you more" or "you're so cute" as a friendly approval and it seems to me like im lacking attraction but maybe that's a problem in my mind-set that i always think that im friend-zoned and she is actually being honest about wanting me.
i played it bad in the way that like *hellhound* said i should have make her understand that she will get her fun and laughter with me only in person where i can escalate some kino and make eye-contact.
ok so if i have to analyze it the situation now is like that:
she just broke up from her friend (she mentioned during the conversation that she met him on fb and i said well you and other 100 girls which is right cause he was probably cheating on her)
im stabilized in her mind as
positive: 'very cheering and funny and enjoyable good-looking dude who has lots of talents and is busy but enjoys life'
negative: : i just ended a long relationship, im not going to see him for 3 months after those three weeks.. i have to study now cause i have exams (thursday and next tuesday)

so how would you escalate from here? i want her to be enough emotionally connected to me so that every time im coming back from europe she will be availble to me.
im talking about specific behaviour and actions you advice me to do... for example: call her tomorrow and ask her to come and learn in my place? or waiting for her to contact me again and then tell her that she ran out of phone minutes and we're meeting somewhere to do something fun or whatever? or just wait till her exams finish so she'll have time to meet me ?


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