I think we'll all agree that we return home with a vast range of experiences from a night out on the clubs. We either feel epically epic from expressing our social inner core or sometimes the SPAM just wasn't what was anticipated which kind of left us let down with disappointment. On Sunday morning, I saw something that made me realise that my ego still remains dormant on the diamond that is my authentic self. Allow me to tell the story.

I was alone in a bar across from the club I had planned to meet my friends at. I was sipping a Jagermeister & RB and admiring an amateur rock musician who was gracing us with a broad range 80s metal. As I became entranced with the music, I noticed a friend - female, outside the bar window who I haven't seen in a while.

I opened her and she was with her friend, a girl who was a year below me at school (I'm 20 years of age), I also recall her going out with a very jelous and insecure boyfriend who called her from home 36 times on her 18th birthday night. I can sense your minds wandering.

You're right, he was there that night and as me and my two girl friends went to the local SPAM to collect money, after 5 minutes she was already explaining where she was - 2 minutes down the road but as soon as she mentioned me, he demanded that she'd return to him.

Cutting through a little bit, we returned to the intended club and I met my other friends and casually lept from group to group. The two girls I was talking about, I lead the single one outside to get more intimate with when we were both interrupted by her friend and her insecure, ass hole of a boyfriend arguing.

She was about to go and talk to them when I stopped her and advised her to "never get in the way of a domestic" to which he heard and mocked "oh look at you, never get in the way of a domestic." I ignored him

and then it came.. he got up, grabbed her arm, shouted "we're leaving" and yanked it. She screamed in absolute pain and he bailed. We both walked over and comforted her. I wasn't impressed a bit.

Half an hour later, she sees him in the street and she puts it straight and simple "you do not get to put a hand on me like that ever, we're through" and walks away only to leave me with my ten cent.

"Listen mate, I think we both know she's not leaving you today but sometime soon she will and once she's out the mindset that you're losing control of. She will not come back. You know you have issues, you just abused your girlfriend and if you haven't realised what that means, it means your an absolute pussy."

He didn't take kind to this (wasn't expecting him to) and he squared up to me but I didn't back down. I knew 100% that he couldn't follow through by punching me and after unbreakable eye contact and a few words he backed down and got a taxi home.

The story ends with me returning her to her mum with her friend saying to her "look love, we've never met, I'm Michael and your daughter says she needs you right now."


for two years I have been attempting to change the way I act towards myself and others to attract more women in my life. This girl, is extremely hot but she's only 18, naive and new to the big, bad world. I can't stand the thought, sound or sight of a women crying at the hand of a man. Hurting a girl through abusing her is absolutely unnaceptable and I saw that day how pathetic these men are with their girlfriends.

I said to him before he squared up to me that there's a big chance she'll leave for a better man. Next week, once this drama has died down I'll prove it.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

Can I ask what you mean by "never get in the way of a domestic"? I hope you don't mean to let things run their course and jump in at the end. While the degree to which you interupt will probably be dependent on the circumstances at hand, I think that all men should stand up to other men when they hear or see abuse.

By "abuse", I don't just mean hitting, grabbing, pushing, etc. Verbal and emotional abuse, and threats, are something we should be concerned about too. Hearing a man call a woman bitch, slut, whore, or threatening physical or sexual violence, all are unacceptable. We shouldn't just turn away and say "It's not my business" to ourselves. Because the way this man is treating this woman, it's being done publicly. People are seeing it. And when nothing happens, people see that it's tolerable and routine. It shouldn't be. When we see abuse, we have the opportunity to turn this public spectacle into a message to all the would-be abusers out there: "Just because I'm a man, doesn't mean I'll accept your SPAM of women." The more people make it clear it won't be tolerated, the more these abusers will feel like maybe THEY'RE the ones out of step with the world.

The seduction community has a reputation with the general public as being misogynistic and androcentric (even Style says so in The Game, when he writes, "pick up has the side effect of lowering your opinion of the opposite sex"). How about we take these opportunities to show the world that we value women's safety and dignity for their own sakes?

Guess what she needs to learn on her own how to live in the big bad world. You are not going to be there all the time to be her knight in shinning armor. This girl needs to learn on her own how to stand up for her self and not put up with such guys. Yes it sucks that girls get abused by guys but unfortunately its part of what goes on in life.

Girls need to stand on there own and it is not always that girl is being abused by a guy sometime a guy also faces some chin music from girls and they haven't complain about it, so it must an equal situation for both guy and girl..

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That is what happened but it isn't what I'm advising you to do. You wouldn't jump into an argument of every couple you encountered unless it was needed. At the time I was faced with a choice, to allow me and my friend get dragged into this argument or lead back into the club and have fun. Had I known she was going to get hurt physically, I'd have ought to jump in and stop it.
Yeah like I would not put up with his unacceptable shit of abusing her. Girls are amazing things man, they're not meant to be succumbed to physical or emotional abuse.

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

Oh, I agree that argument =/= abuse, and in this particular case things are what they are, might have been hard to see that turning violent (at least that night - that guy was a classic abuser and probably a lot of people would have said it was only a matter of time). I just worry about giving advice like "never get in the way of a domestic" - because sometimes domestics are truly ugly things that need to be stopped.

And as far as the argument, "Yeah it's abuse but guys do it to girls, too": why is it that the only response to discussions of violence against women, misogyny, etc. gets turned around into "But women abuse men too!"? If you have an axe to grind about that topic, start another thread? Just saying "women do it too" is not a justification for accepting the violence against women that DOES occur. Also, men and women experience intimate partner violence at approximately equal rates, but women are more likely to experience more severe forms of it (e.g. a man is likely to be hit, pushed, have something thrown at him, whereas a woman is more likely to be beaten, sexually assaulted, or choked). It is all unacceptable, but let's not pretend like we're helpless to do anything about it, or that some women's reprehensible behaviour makes it fair game to abuse any woman.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/ncfv-cnivf/p ... ma-eng.php

I don't know. Indeed it's a topic that should be discussed on a different thread.
I don't believe that there are men out there who think "oh, some girls beat men... I should do something about that, COME HERE BITCH! >:@ " but yeah, regardless of what gender it is entirely unacceptable. Unless it's a slap on the ass, then that's fine
It's important to note, I did not mean domestic in its literal sense. I intended it to be light, as in a mild argument. I understand where I mislead you, lets just say: argument, let it be unless you have a good reason to jump in. Physical abuse, take action and stop that shit.

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."