Hey guys , I am 19 new to this forum and relatively new to pick up techniques . I have a strange case here and I still haven't managed to find out how to deal with this . About 3 years ago when I was a muppet and fell in love with nearly every single girl that talked to me . I know , weak ) . There was a girl , a 8-9 super hot and fun but for some reason she was a virgin , always loved the guys that didn't want her . After we became 'friends' one night she was siting in my lap and holding my hands , and me the biggest idiot alive didn't do anything because she was always shifting between friends and more than friends and I was afraid of rejection. After a few days I called her and (try not to laugh too hard) told her that I like her and asked for her answer. She said she doesn't know what to say and I freaked out and I LJBF myself . I told her nvm let's not ruin our friendship . We didn't talk that much since then and I was introduced to pick up techniques and seduction . It really helped me , suddenly getting a gf was so easy , making kino became a piece of cake after some practice and even got the high school's miss popularity for a few days . A few days ago guess who I went out with ? That girl . I told myself eh , mby she will have cute friends and so . But no , when I saw her I nearly got a boner ) . While we where talking she told me that some people think that we where together and how weird is that? I coped with it , didn't say anything and we ended up in a club . When we got out a friend of hers came along and told us that everyone thinks that we are together , she suddenly started to touch my back , I did the same thing and we ended up holding hands for some time until we parted . I know I blew a chance but it was 5 in the morning and after a pack of cigs and booze my breath wasn't that nice so I said It's better to make the move another day. Now then ,. what tips do you guys have for me ? She is a virgin at 19 and only had one relationship so she is pretty much 'damaged' she always changes her mind. I don't know why I still feel that there is something between us but nevertheless , I had sex with girls I didn't even knew their names and It was so easy , and I am holding hands with this one and I just can't accept the fact that I can't get this one . Just that I am afraid this will turn into a ljbf again even if I try. So guys how do I strike the iron while it's hot?

Excerpt one: Bud you totally blew it. If she was all on you like you described. (sitting in your lap??!!) and I think there was some hand-holding going on, and you didn't act, forget it. Strike while thr iron is hot? Bud, that iron is dead cold by now.

You see with girls, they have only about one good week a month where they're really feeling it to go out and mingle provocatively with guys (maybe more) and guess what?
They have unlimited guys that they can use as an "outlet" for these desires.

They can put themselves out there for a guy they like, or for the more aggressive ones, make advances on those guys (which I personally love).

And if they're getting no receptiveness....you guessed it! They move right along their merry way, and find a guy who WILL take thr hint.

I don't know you, but from your OP, you honestly sounded boring, scared shitless, and a push-over, no offense. Did you EVER try to advance or escalate at all??!

You mentioned a club and you guys had been drinking, while OUT TOGETHER??!! Man, that's a recipe for at least a good long makeout on the way home for me. And no, drinking doesn't give you bad kissing breath, especially if she's been drinking. And if you've been smoking, she's just not going to care if she's been drinking.

Sounds to me that you bunted the ball at least twice by now. Grow some balls man, speaking of which, most guys would give their left one for the kind of female interest you got.

Now that leads me to the second excerpt. She was having second thoughts about LJBF, now this was a straight-up shit test that you didn't pass.

Sorry to sound harsh but when ppl come to this forum already w ton of interest from (nonetheless HOT) females, we kinda wanna shake them and say DUDE, SHE'S INTO YOU!! STEP UP AND MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Now the 30 year old virgins we get tend to be the more sympathetic cases , where they're not walking in w/ interested females. They have decades of issues (eg, shitty upbringing, etc) that are legitimately standing in the way of their best efforts.

With your case, if I wasn't blunt, I'd really feel I was doing you a disservice man.

Either way, there may be some semblance of a chance to salvage this. If so, examine, and DO IT!! Damn the consequences! You've already seen the worst that could come of it. I recommend RSD Blueprint Decoded for situations like yours, and man others.

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Holding hands is a tool in kino escalation, you're an idiot for not going for more. Send her a text saying "You know… Although everyone is saying that we're dating I don't want you to let that get to your head, your too much like a sister to me" (LJBF her) then hang out (lounge and drinks), kino escalate, grab your balls, NUT THE FUCK UP! & close. If the info is accurate in your post, your fucking yourself straight into LJBF zone

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Dude go the fuck for it.. Fuck what people say it's too late, iron is cold by now, blew up too many chances...

She sat on your lap, didn't see you for some time, then JOKES about how her friends all think you guys are together, and then touches your back and holds your hand?? DUDE,.. WTF K-close or even f-close that girl already! She kinda likes you..

And plz, if you go for closes and it works,.. yay for you,.. if you don't, it'll just be like it was before, the two of you barely talking to each other.... Either way, you either strike gold or nothing changes.... Just do it!

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You're the fucking man. Remember this. Every girl would love for a chance to be with you. This girl should have you on a pedestal, not other way around. Just go in.

1. She's showing IOIs.

2. If she says no, for any possible chance (although she won't, from what you're writing), don't sweat it. You were well off without her, and you will be well of without her. Once again, though, she won't say no.

Good luck boss.