Hey all,

Finished a D2 with a 27 yr old HB9. Fucked it up big time but let me run it down a bit and see what insights I can get.

Thursday. Opened, attracted and #-closed said HB at the DMV down here (day game) while renewing my driver's license (about 20-25 mins game all in all).

Friday. Worked some comfort through smartphone chat, tried to meet her @ club but I got no answer when I called late, and we ended up at different clubs.

Monday. Asked to meet 4 lunch but it moved to coffee. Though it was an early meet (7-8:30 pm cause she had a family dinner), moved around 2 places and the mall a bit, and I did pretty good on comfort though I couldn't really escalate due to day, time and said location. Got good kino and it was reciprocal (knee touches etc.). Set up a D2 for friday at my restaurant.

Tuesday. She texts me about arrangements for friday. I text back negging about her mom's cooking and if everyone was ok afterwards. She responds:

HB:Hahaha watch it!!! I'm gonna tell on you when my mom meets you!!!
Me: Hhahahaha scared!! I'll be on my best behaviour
HB: Hmmmm she's real cool, just be yourself loool yr not that bad :S hahaha. So... what time?
Chat continues... some negs from me followed by IOIs... but I get "lool sweet!" reply..... (F*CK)

Anyway to make a long story short, with the texts I definitely moved into AFC fucking territory, therefore now I have decided to hardly text ever (any HB). So onto last night (short version).

HB arrives (10:30pm) and stays about 45 mins with me before her friends arrive. I never game at my restaurant because I get interrupted by staff asking me shit and frquent customers which I hate (dunno if it counts as DHV). But it was her idea so I couldn't do anything about it. Did decent game one-on-one, but it broke down when her 2 girl friends and another AMOG showed (a friends BF 45 years old). He dominated the first part of table talk with his work shit (which was interesting) and basically talked to my target instead of his everybody (my target who he just met much hotter than his GF).

Things got better when a couple of my friends joined the table and I was able to get some DHV in and use humor and wit which socially is my main tool.

But all in all, my game was weak and I was thrown off and couldn't regain control of the frame with my target. I was mentally thrown off, this was one of the times where I could've used something canned to regain my focus. I also didn't engage my target enough. This was a very confident HB and that threw me off too, I've been gaming in the 22-24 range.

When she left (I was planning to drive her but the other AMOG was driving his GF who lived close and she just immediately said good-bye) we we're outside as a group, so I couldn't isolate (we were leaving an empty restaurant @ 4am).

Got a txt from her 20 mins later (4:30am):

- Thanks for a wonderful evening!!! I had a great time kisses

Thing is, her decision to leave with her friend and her BF left me cold, and I just got a regular kiss on the cheek (that's normal here). I got a better goodbye on D1, kiss and this sort of hand brush where you slide out of the other's hand. I dunno... everytime I think about any target I feel I'm being AFC-ish. So I haven't responded text yet (have been @ work since 11 am).

Any insights form the outside? Is freezing her overreacting, or can I just wait until she shows some concrete IOIs again? Not sure if I fucked it up for good... Thing is she had an AMAZING body really pissed I had such crappy game.

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place, it's my 1st. Thanks

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BTW just an update to anyone reading this:

I am currently gaming 3-4 other girls as well @ different stages, and getting aprox. 2 # closes / day (I like day game - seeing as I only have 3-4 nights free per week because of my restaurant)... So I'm not really invested in the HB9 in the post above... But she has an AMAZING body that I'd really like to sack so it does break my concentration a little (down here good bodies are sort of scarce...) That's why I wanted an outside opinion

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personally, I think its your interpretation of it that's throwing you off, more than the actual things that happened

First of, she came to meet you and she said she had a good time on leaving. Thats an IOI of course.

If she kissed you on the cheek, thats normal too. If she's around other people, maybe she didnt want to smooch you down in front of others

Your friends coming in was a bad move - you probably would have done better being intimate

you dont need your friends to DHV. that stage has already gone. the point of the Day 2 is to get comfortable chatting to her, being yourself and seeing how well you gel with her.

All in all, sounds like you did fine, but you needed to be alone with her.

Also, for dominant women, work the subcomms. Laser eye contact, gentle touching, seductive look etc. that way, you can talk about anything, and anyone can "take the frame" and it will make no difference. She will only be her best when she is displaying her true frame. you "being dominant over her" might not have necessarily worked to close the deal as then her true nature (as a dominant woman) is being repressed.

Thanks spicex.... Being new to this, I guess I may sometimes try to read in between every line (typical newbie mistake??)

And what does "subcom" stand for? I hadn't come across this term yet...

I just felt like there were so many IOIs from monday to thursday, that friday night seemed just horrible by comparison. Definitely my monday meet went smoothly, while on friday I was uncomfortable being on a D2 @ my restaurant.

Thankfully the rest of the weekend went well, and saturday afternoon my 2 mates and I opened a 3-set outside during the afternoon, and the 3 set came back after going to the movies so it turned out to be an instant 1st triple date until 2am at my place (rest.)... It was fun figuring out who was going with who because we group-opened (we have a nail salon next door.... Niiiice (said like Borat hahaha)). The we hit the club and gamed some more (ran into a couple of HBs previously gamed - this town is fucking small and everyone goes to the same places)... Even my ex-gf gets told what I'm up to and that really pisses me off, why can't people MTOFB!

Keeping yourself busy helps at not focusing too much on 1 girl so as no to fall into neediness I guess... I'll try not to over-analyze and see where that takes me. I'll try to get D3 at my place (home that is) for something once a couple more days have gone by. Thnx

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