Guns are not fired or manufactured with the mind.

They are a physical reaction to certain stimuli, using and exploiting the physical realities of the universe. The term is physics.

Thoughts and ideas that are turned into physical actions, based upon this knowledge.
Maybe they were just hypochondriacs.

A mental or imaginary affliction created in the mind does not equal a physical one.
And orgasm is both a physical and a mental event. Therefore it cannot be a 100% mental event.
You can believe you can jump off a 100 story building and survive all you want. That doesn't make it possible or even likely.

David Koresh, Charles Manson and Jim Jones exploited mentally weak and suggestible individuals. None of these individuals at any time were able to or capable of acting contrary to the laws of physics or even their own will. They chose to do so based upon suggestion and incongruent programming. Which they chose to believe regardless of the facts that surrounded them.

They only allowed themselves to be manipulated into doing certain acts. Acts which were damaging to themselves and others. Based in large part on fear, human nature and the influence of a stronger and misguided personality.

These brain washing and reprogramming techniques are widely known in the intelligence communities, and were used extensively by the North Koreans, and the Chinese during the Korean war. They were also used by the Nazi's, the Soviets and the majority of other governments in the name of national security. They also currently being used at Guantanamo and are used in a mild form by the U.S. military to train recruits.

I can send you more declassified information on how this is done if you would like. It's not magic.

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Men have wet dreams also. That doesn't mean we're having orgasms, in a sexual sense. Since sex and the act of copulation is also a physical act.

I believe your insinuation was that it was possible to give a woman an orgasm via mental stimulation only. That an orgasm was 100% mental. And I asked for more information or evidence from you that this is the case. Because in my experience it is not.

This is pop science at best. Since the female orgasm is considered to be both a physical and mental process. I put this in the same category as creating a realm of mystery and superstition around women themselves. Similar to what happened during the Salem witch trials in the 1600's.

If and when you discover a provable way to give a woman an orgasm that's 100% mental, and prove it, I would be interested in hearing about it.

Orgasm- An orgasm (sexual climax) is the conclusion of the plateau phase of the sexual response cycle, and may be experienced by both males and females. Orgasm is characterized by intense physical pleasure, controlled by the involuntary, or autonomic, nervous system.[1] It is accompanied by quick cycles of muscle contraction in the lower pelvic muscles, which surround the primary sexual organs and the anus. Orgasms are often associated with other involuntary actions, including muscular spasms in other areas of the body, a general euphoric sensation, and, less frequently, vocalizations.

Now if you want to believe you can make a woman have an orgasm by standing their looking at her, vulcan mind meld, or something similar, you are free to do so. And we'll certainly consider setting up a room for you to hold a class on this subject.

Here is some more reading material for you (the last one is by a leading female researcher in this area);

http://www.whitelotuseast.com/FemaleOrgasm.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/17/science/17orga.html

Now what came first, the chicken or the egg?

I suppose I'll just leave it at that.

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Dude, it doesn't matter how much information I can show you. You are going to believe what you want, and you're close minded about this. If you want to put limitations on your mind and sex life, by all means go for it. I've shown you the information. Another woman (ZIP) has told you that it's true, and yet you still sit here and claim to know the sexuality of a woman?? It bewilders me to say the least.

One thing David Shade said regarding this is that prior to getting his girlfriend to cum over the phone without her touching herself, (he made her put the off hand not holding the phone behind her hand) is that you cannot tell them what you are trying to do. He says most women wouldn't believe it and then such orgasm would never be possible. Once he got her to cum over the phone without any physical touch to herself, she at that point became a believer herself. I believe he said she wanted to go to work the next day and tell her friends, but was weary that nobody would believe her.

This goes into context of people putting limitations on the human body and mind. If you don't believe you can achieve it, chances are you will not. For the record, I'll chose David Shade and the American Cancer Society telling me it IS possible over a person with limited knowledge telling me it's not possible.

OK.

But then if it's possible, then I suspect more people than just David Shade would be doing it. And teaching their bf's, gf's, wives and husbands how to do it as well.

And it should be possible to replicate as a scientific experiment. Instead of just a few guys on the internet claiming it is not only possible, but a fact absent any documented evidence.

I'm waiting with baited breath.

I mean could you imagine the implications? You could do a sold out show in Las Vegas every night and give every woman in the audience an orgasm.

Can you imagine the outcry from the religious right?

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I'm with Starbuck on this. Why not go into details? It's not like we are going to tell your neighbor or anything.

Yeah Tripp. I got to know..

There are women I need to call on the phone right now..

I mean if you could share with us how to do this via chat or something, I suspect this website would suddenly be over run with women wanting to join the PMZ or something.

You guys are cracking me up man.

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Apparently you can't read Buck. I told you that you can't tell them what you are doing as MOST WILL NOT BELIEVE IT. If a person's mindset is that it isn't true, then trying to preform it on them would be all for nothing. I told you David Shade didn't tell his girlfriends prior what he was doing and once he was able to make them cum that way, he was able to repeat it because the women believed it very well could happen.

So telling a bunch of women this stuff and telling them you could make them cum without touching them isn't going to lead to the best results. Hell, I can tell you and your wife aren't there mentally in your sex life due to the fact she is opposed to anal sex. Shade talks about how one of his lovers was 100% against anal sex until he started making her cum like a russian race horse. At that point, she was willing to give her body and mind to him completely. Not only that, he then was able to give her orgasms through anal sex. Again, you can put all the limitations on the mind if you like, it's only going to hamper you in the long run.

She's not opposed to anal sex.

In my view anal sex is for critters that don't have a snatch, or people with some sort of anal compulsion or something. And I aint into that.

For another thing, it's unsanitary and an abusive practice in my view (the asshole was not designed to accommodate a dick, nor does it have a reason too).

Just because a woman will let you do something to her, doesn't mean you should do so or that she likes it. What are you.. Jim Jones or something?

Seriously, plenty of freaks of nature all over the net into beastility, sado masochism and some things I'm sure I can't imagine or haven't heard of. I gotta draw the line somewhere. I draw it at common sense. That doesn't seem as popular as it used to be.

Just imagine, a 100% mental orgasm during anal sex. Compliments of saq everybody.

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I'm not into anal sex with women myself either, but I wouldn't want somebody that was opposed to the idea. There are some lines you draw, but I'll leave you with this quote.

"It's only taboo the first time. After that, it's just what we do." -Mark Cunningham

Rule a womans mind, heart and body through anal sex, and 100% mental orgasms over the phone.

Well, that's about all I need to learn from David Shade.

Thanks for sharing that.

Hey Meth, you got anymore tips?

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Unless you've read it, don't knock it. You might learn something. In fact, you will. It's meant for guys just like yourself.

I already told you, I did read it.

After scanning though the material, I didn't get through the first chapter before I deleted it. No sense reading something written by the less experienced, or somebody that just needs the money or is a few marbles short of a full deck of cards.

My time is valuable.

At least debating it with you is somewhat entertaining.

Here's more about David Shade from someone who knows him a little better than you or I.

"I wouldnt buy anything made by David Shade. That guy is full of shit! You can take a look at his appearance during Cliff's Conference 05. He speaks there, shaking and nearly crying but talks about being a man?!?
Got also guys who met him and told me what a geek he is."

http://direct-method.net/invisionboard/ ... topic=2343

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