My last girlfriend was about a 7 and it's been a while since I've gone on a date. There is a 5 on POF who wants to go out with me so on one hand I'm thinking it's good warm up material to help keep me from being nervous when I can do better. On the other hand I'm worried it may keep me from doing a lot better with a hot chick who may see me with her. What would you do?

Don't worry about getting seen or whatever. If it's that much of a concern just take the ugly chick to a place you won't go to again.

The main thing to work out is if you want the 5 or not. There's nothing wrong with wanting a 5 in some situations. If your objective is easy pussy, or you like her taste in music or something, then 5s serve a function.

Yes and no.

Yes, if you date a 5 in your social circle, no 9 or 10 in your social circle will date you after that. Settling for an ugly girl ruins your chances with hot ones (dating an 8 or an 8.5 won't necessarily screw you over for that 10 though).

But no, you shouldn't be worried about that here. Take her somewhere where you won't run into people you know and you'll be fine. Girls are basically the same, dealing with girls requires the same concepts at all levels, so this is good practice.

yep. It'll blow it. If david beckham were walking down the street with a 3, chicks would say, LOSER..

They'd never say, ,"what's he doing with her!".

I think you're not as social-proofed but thats bullshit about david beckham. Girls usually do ask "why is he with HER?"

Lol....

Well it helps if you are seen with hot girls more often than ugly girls. I have noticed that when I am with a girl Hb6-7, other girls would size her up and try to find what's so special about her. I have caught these girls doing it, but I am not sure if it really hurts your chances

He was being sarcastic, that's what the wink was for.

Still, everyone would kind of assume that he was a social retard or something, to have stooped that low. Doesn't matter what random people you don't know think though.

Yes, indeed I was.

I think it depends on the guy.Beckham was an extreme example. I should've been more precise: yes, it can diminish one's perceived social value, and will hinder chances of dating women that are higher up on the 1-10 scale than one's self.

As far as a hot hot guy with an ug.. It doesn't matter. Simply because women are more vain than most men. The hot guy will always get laid because he's hot.

This.

If you happen across a confident, super-hot woman who finds you attractive, physically or otherwise, the only thing that will be going through her mind is why you're on a date with this mediocre-looking woman and not her.

In no way is that a bad thing.

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Its the first time I hear that, elaborate.

hhmm. Most women I know will jump a guy that is hot, just because he's hot. They won't touch a guy that is not.

I see lots of men who'll fuck an ug, just for the instnt gratification.

You've have not realized this yet? From your post, you seem to act kind of experienced?

Basically the whole concept of PUA assumes this to be true. Otherwise we'd not need to learn to make ourselves more attractive.

I'm really questioning the women you're around. Maybe you're not in the US????

Most women will jump a guy if he is hot.
ALL men will jump a girl if she is hot.

Men are know to care about female beauty more than women tend to care about male beauty.
For a man if a girl is hot he may not care much about her character, to a certain extent of course.
For a woman man has to have some certain qualities first.

So in my opinion its quite the oppposite of what you say.

And the voice of reason comes forth...

To the OP: If I'm on a date with someone who is slightly less attractive than my norm - there's a mitigating circumstance. I'll date a ginger just because I dig a firecrotch. I'll date someone slightly less attractive when their brain is on par with my own. I'll date someone slightly more 'plump' if that chemistry is off the chart.

Other women who see this - fuck them. I'm on a date with one lady. She deserves my attention or she doesn't go on the date. And, yes, I'll take her out. Why? Because I fucking want to. I don't fuck mopeds (fun to ride, but don't let your friends see you on her) and I won't make her feel like shit either. That's not my game.

Maybe when you're in your 20's this is a factor - people are far more shallow when they're younger... but when you get older, you'll see that your own confidence will beget the responses you deserve.

So, let's say I'm dating a ginger, who could lose 15 lbs... What do I do? If it's a real date, I treat her as the only woman I see. Other women see this and will respond internally. They won't be thinking "I'll never date that guy, I'm hotter than that chick" -- they'll be thinking "Wow, look at that guy with HER? I'm hotter than her... but he's so into her. Wow, look how he looks at her... he's a good guy! I wish I could find a guy that looks at me like that."

THINK about her frame: If a hot chick is paying htat much attention to MY date, then she's obviously single, obviously NOT having the dating life she wants, and obviously jealous. I don't see a problem with that. So she has an internal conversation about you. Does that mean you can walk over and fuck her? Nope. It means YOU determined her frame. And, like I said, if I'm on a real date, I'm not looking to sarge other women as it is. That DLVs yourself when it's noticed.

If you want to sarge other women and not the 'less-than-attractive' woman you're with, then just don't fucking be with her.

Just Another perspective.

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if you hang about with hot chicks, you'll be perceived as hot

so, dont date the 5.

Today I was seen in the supermarket with my 5 gf and a chick at work who think's i'm attractive. She's like a 9.

It was this exact scenario. The 9 had asked if I had a gf on numerous occasions before. I introduced them briefly. Am I fucked.