Hey up, I'm from Manchester UK, I'm 25, carrying a terrible record with women! haha! Just started reading the rules of the game so I'm complete amateur and need to attain basics in all areas.

My goals are to firstly not get taken for a ride by girls anymore, when I get chance I play the text and dating game ok at first, but then things go wrong.

I have never properly approached a woman in the streets and have only chatted up when drunk and really terrible at closing for numbers etc when she’s hot.

Most of my action (which is not a lot) has come from longer game, where I have managed to charm the woman slowly as I am a good guy and like a laugh, it’s just I’m shy at first if she’s hot and my looks aren’t great.

What do people recommend to read etc…

I want to get good and I’m willing to work hard! Would like to get talking to some successful PUA’s to help build my game and then possibly get out with them in the field, I’m definitely up for this and will do what it takes! (Hopefully having a laugh in the process).

Hey, I'm relatively fresh to the application of the game but I want to say anyhow, and I think others will back me up on this that, you really have to cut your looks out of the equation when you're in the situation. Looks, of course, matter to a degree as any AFC knows and therefor maybe spend some time styling up. But when in the interaction don't let anything within a league of "Does she like me, my style, my looks. Am I this that or the other good enough?" cross your mind. More along the lines of, did that ISI just hit home? DHV time, ooh IOI... etc... you know what I mean

Yours
PinchGuitar

Hi,

I'm completely new to the game too, our stories sound pretty similar; I'm a nice guy get taken for a ride or friendzoned.

I've started the rules of the game, just done day 3, insane fun ringing up those people!

I am also studying NLP from the book; NLP For Dummies, has some excellent stuff in there!

What I'm doing to improve my game is just being really concious of every conversation I have and breaking it down in my mind afterwards.

Also I've bought a body language book by some dude that claims to be an Ex FBI interrogator.. But I haven't started that yet, The Game and NLP are enough to be getting on with.

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Sarging is like a boxing match, you size your opponent up, throw in some jabs to open proceedings then explode with everything you've got.

sounds like your on the right track

it would be extremely helpful to make your best friend interested in pick up, too. its really important to be able to bounce ideas off of, winging each other and generally getting some feedback on your interactions from someone you can trust.

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I know there are a lot of unbelievable things about me. But the problem is that they are all true. - Mehow

Most definitely have a friend get into it as well. It's easier to learn and have fun if there's 2 of you.

Inner game is a must also IMHO.

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Fuck with her mind and her body will follow.

Game is a process that you develop overtime, you are not going to read a book and wake up tomorrow and say "I got this".

The best and only way to get girls and this may sound scary is to go out and get them.

I do read and use to watch videos on pickup routines, but it helps to watch videos that are both good and bad pickup so you learn.

Most importantly though is when you get out there and you fail dont't write the girl off as a bitch instead look at what you did wrong or "creepy" and improve upon yourself

If you guys are being friended alot i suggest being more direct there was something with your initial pickup that left you in a non sexual light.

The quickest way to get over the humps in friendship literally and figuratively is to obliterate it, don't be the guy who goes into an interaction like hes stepping on eggshells keep in mind that YOU are alpha as all fuck even if you aren't. Eventually even you will believe it.

The girls compliance isn't everything if you are being friendzoned then you're qualification isn't strong enough. From experience i can say that you probably aren't aggressive about what you like and might be taking backward steps to meet her expectation or not step on any toes. Well fuck her toes! keep on stepping my fellow PUA's don't let the shit test fly.