Not quite. At least in my social context, the powerful, rich or famous men that I've interacted with went after women instead of waiting for women to come to them; every night, every day, every single hour while these men were interacting with other people to cooperate and collaborate on something like how to close a $10 million deal.
All logic are not created equal. Some idea, logic or approach are just much more efficient than what the 'normal' or average person has. However, this doesn't mean that because someone's logic or approach is different, then that someone is abnormal.

For instance, the average guy in my social context would be very busy trying to earn his $6 daily wage. On the other hand, after an emotionally draining negotiation with the client, the rich man gets several women to help him relax as well as make his negotiating team relax. After 'relaxation' or banging women and having orgasms, he and his team meet to discuss the strategies on how to close the deal.

The average guy might have been so busy interacting with the boxes of grocery goods while working and yet at the end of the day, he only earns $6. On the other hand, the rich man has been busy banging two women, and dining and wining with his negotiating team on a daily basis, yet at the end of a week, a month or a year, he ends up closing several $10 million dollar deals.

It does not necessarily mean that the 'normal' or average guy has a lot more problems or is busier than the rich man. The rich man has so many employees to support so that these average guys can have their daily wage. It just so happens that to earn his money, the rich man interacted with more men and women to cooperate and collaborate on something productive. Meanwhile, the average guy interacted with his grocery boxes and interacted with fewer men or women to cooperate and collaborate on something.

It's not only rich men who interact, and cooperate and collaborate with more men and women. Even the powerful and famous do the same. This, my friend, is what you call leverage.

The average guy does not understand leverage fully. The rich, powerful and famous people of this world leverage the knowledge, skill sets, time, experiences, money and resources of other people through productive interaction, and cooperation and collaboration.

Now, your logic might be simple by using a little bit of brain, but the logic of rich, powerful and famous men are much simpler by using more brains of other men or women that they interact with.

I'm following the logical pattern of the rich, powerful and famous people that I have interacted, and cooperated and collaborated with so I can also be one like them. With the internet, mobile phones and other gadgets, the interaction, cooperation and collaboration experiences have become more efficient in addition to face-to-face human interactions.

Are you by any means following the logical pattern of the average 'normal' guys? That's your choice. But at least, please be civil with our logical pattern choices as well.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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its just EGO post. why show off ? who you guys trying to approve ? is it just number game for you guys ? fucking over 300 girl and cant find that one great girl ? or u just cheat around ? I'm writing this because I afraid to become such person. no oneitis, no LOVE?

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Excuse my awful English !!!

with all the respect of the world,your post is a good example on how to write a long brief talking of nothing and a mental masturbation level 9999

anyway its ok

Even if you are a super good PUA that can fuck 1 different girl every week in your 20s ....the lifes goes on
you cant be a peterpan forever
,when you grow up you have other things more important to take care of
and, sometimes
you´ll fall in love and chase that girl
you´ll want to build your career
you´ll follow your passions
Basically
You dont have that much energy/time for all of your life, i always follow this rule in my life ´´avoid to believe the bragging people´´

Hi Just hoping for some advice regarding a girl from my area I tried and failed to pull just over year ago. Was in very regular contact via text etc but rarley got to see her due to the pair of us going to different universities. The brief few times I seen her (nights out over christmas period) I managed to get a make out but was never able to get her back to my place. Eventually everything fizzled out due to distance aswell as myself being a bit of a pussy with the whole thing. Anyway I've gained a bit more confidence/experience in the past year and am hoping to try and pull the girl at some point over the summer. Whats your advice? Do I initiate contact via text or facebook, or do I wait for the inevtiable metting in a club? The girl definitly had interest in me at one point as she was constantly initating contact with me. If the situation was to happen now with a girl I didn't previously know I think I'd be much more likely to get the outcome I wanted, but if theres a chance of reviving this situation I wouldnt mind attempting it as the girl in question is really hot and a very nice girl from what I remember.
Thanks a lot.

hey man, would love some advice on text game as iv met this really hot girl and texts a lot! i posted in general questions bout her under need help closing this one.....

hey guys, met an amazing 19 year old at a foam party friday and we were all over eachother. she is so hot its amazing and we met at the bar when i pointed out a green rubber duck she had somehow acquired, we drinked, talked danced kissed etc and she was really into me. got cockblocked though as she had to leave with her pals but she asked if she could have my jacket and i gave her it. been texting quite a bit and was out again last night n she kept textin me to go to the club she was in, eventually i went even though my friends stayed where they were, last night worked out great too, she wanted to hold my hand all the time and kept sitting on my knee and kissing me, she invited me back to her friends but then the other girl basically told me in the taxi i couldnt come back. she is a bit of a player though i think cos she showed me her phone at one point and said i should feel priviledged and i asked why and she showed me her inbox of bout 25 unread messages from guys, and then said cos i text you back, then she kissed me, this bitch is inside my head now. weve been texting back and forward today and jus wana try and make a date away from the club scene. ideas guys or advice on some good text game. also, how do i deal with the cock blocking?

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what if....

I don't want love. I refuse to tolerate anything serious to ever worry about oneitis.

Who I fuck is my business. This is a pick-up forum. We offer advice to men who want to fuck women. That advice ...consider it to be plutonium. Some will understand it and either build a bomb or a power plant. Some won't do shit with it; it only confuses them.

I'm 45. Fucking over 30 women this year alone hasn't been that hard and it isn't that time-consuming (I'm self-employed, and I work a helluva lot more than 40hrs/week). I don't WANT a girlfriend. I love the casual, I'm honest about it and... frankly, I don't give a fuck what others think. The ladies that I see smile and I can refuck the vast majority - nobody gets hurt.

Cool? Cool.


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To newbies here.... If you don't like what someone here does, simply ignore them and move on. Find posters whom you respect and seek their opinions. mPUA's don't beat up one another, we assist one another. We have a shark mentality... When sharks find a school of fish, they don't beat up one another, they circle the whole school and one at the time they dive in and feast... Nobody gets jealous, nobody gets 'pissy' - they understand the simple fact: there's always another fish. They work together.


I'm here a lot. I always keep this window on my computer as I work. It's not that time consuming, and it's really a break from my work. Throwing "bullshit" and judgements will do nothing but bring a negative vibe to the forum. This is a pick-up forum. Advice to pick up women. Judging men who offer that advice, or questioning them only mucks up the topics at hand. Simply ignore the guy and move on.

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Summer pussy can always be fun with the "high school ex" crowd. If you've made out with her before, nothing felt 'creepy', and all was well but fizzled... try a text: "Hey wanna help me rob a bank?" Great random text that offers a lane to sexual or a role play. No matter how she responds, you reply "Seriously, I need an accomplice - you driving or shooting?". From there, the door is set, game on.

I'd try to gain compliance via text, then move to phone/meeting.

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Who wants to be?
Show me a chick in her 20's and I'll show you a dude named Rodeo who will wonder what her mom looks like...
Like what? Please give examples. I live this life, I fucked my 31st woman this weekend, and set up #32 for wednesday. So, please tell me what else is more important that I 'have' to focus on in MY life that I'm not already focused on - please speak from a knowledge-base slightly different than your own limited opinion that you're trying (poorly) to pass off on the forum as 'fact'. So what? Seriously.... so the fuck what? Built. Next? I did. I rode professional rodeo for over 5 years. I also completed my MS-HRM since then and left a company who employed me to go solo and start my own business. Now, I go to the becah 3x a week, I meet beautiful women, and I fuck them - and I assure you - there's a lot of passion... so please, once again, offer more than your own limited opinion to make such a broad statement trying to rationalize MY life that you absolutely have NO comprehensions there of. YOU don't. I live my life everyday. Don't tell me a damn thing about MY daily life, or my 'energy' level.

* Quick lesson on diction - when you start a sentence with the term 'basically', you've already DLV'd yourself. 9/10 times, utilization of the words "basically" or "that" in a sentence denote superflous words, and by definition indicate someone with a limited thought process. Think about it. If you'd followed this advice you have for yourself, you wouldn't have said a fucking thing. Ironic much?


Dude, if you ever wonder why you're alone jacking off everyday - read this above. Youve' provided a shitload of excuses, opinions, and suppositions... all of which give ONE answer: You're pussy who can't get laid - and it's everybody else's fault but your own.

By the way... what was said that was bragging? if it's FACT, it's not bragging. I've slept with just over 300 women - fact. Will I ever tell a woman? FUCK NO. Did I say it here? Sure. Why? I don't give a fuck if YOU know. Some will be shocked and attack (like YOU), some will ignore it (what you SHOULD have done), and some will contact me, and others, for opinions/advice.

Izumi, if you'd like to engage in a civil discussion about how I've either bragged, or lied - I invite you to do so. PM me if you'd like, or just shut the fuck up, get off your high horse, learn to ignore people and move on. Trying to call them out only makes you look like a dick.

Don't be a dick.

--to the rest, my apoloigies for mucking up the forum more. SA911, sorry I shit in your thread. I just figured this clown needed to be answered.

Izumi, your move.

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

A 45 years old with a nice career,
with a shitload of women
that
spends
most of his time in a TEENAGER forum..


If a person has a ´´little bit of brain´´
can
figure out there´s something going wrong...yeah yeah yeah we know that you do that because you are kind hearted and want to help other people and blablabla

+ Self proclamed MPUA

+ gets angry when some button are pressed

+ bragging over 9000

=

Troll

Again, why so negative?

You can't read. 9000? 300. BIG difference.

This is a teen forum? I'm not a teen. I don't give a fuck if you are. I'm not here for YOU.

The only anger is yours. If you think I'm angry - grow thicker skin. I'm not here to fluff you, I'm here to speak my mind. But that's a matter of fact, not anger. There's a difference. Maturity will teach you this.

But seriously, please (this time) offer something tangible in your rebuttal. You don't look like a dick right now, you look like a childish dick.


RR

**By the way... while you're insulting others for posting here... think about this: You're the guy COMPLAINING on a 'teen pick up forum'; bitching to dudes about the women they 'said' they fuck. Is that what your life is? Nipping at the heels of others in an online forum?

Dude, wake the fuck up. You're an AFC - and sadly, it's unraveling as to why. You're mad at anyone who has success. Seriously, the only thing holding you back is your own piss-poor attitude.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

There is no Canadian language, in Canada they speak English, and French... I just wanted to feel intellectual today...

Edit: i thought i got kasabi on this one, but unfortunately it was brought to my attention he did it like that being sarcastic...

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Izume, i want you to read once a day this, it will help you tons:

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Fail+Troll+No pussy
If you want more ,you´ll have more, i love to play these games

If I was you I would initiate the contact, you have to take control of the situation. Just as you need to be in control of the seduction. Send her a message, keep it very friendly at first, this will allow you the time to gauge her, see where she is in life, is she seeing anyone, is she showing the same type of interest, is the attraction still there. If you feel a good vibe based on the flow of your conversation, start to flirt a little bit, if she reacts well, start to show your interest, ask her to hang out.

As long as by the time you ask her to hang out, you have shown physical interest again, you should be able to move forward with a seduction.

In summary:

1)Re-engage her ( via text, facebook..etc etc) Take control of your destiny.
2)Re-establish rapport ( friendly talk, get a feeling for where she is in life)
3)Show interest (build it up, if she reacts well, continue to escalate)
4)Invite her to hang out (make it casual something fun, no pressure(NOT A DATE)
5)Seduce her. (use your new found confidence and experience to make it happen)

Good luck.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

You need to isolate her, try not to show too much interests through your texts, If she invites you out again when she is with her friends, tell her no thanks. Say that you want her company and her company alone. If she wants to hang out afterwards to text you, if not, have a good night.

When you do talk to her when she is not out and about, invite her to hang out with you. JUST THE TWO OF YOU.

make it clear you want to hang out with her only.

She seems to be getting off on all the attention from you and others, from your posts it would seem she loves to have control. Ie: give me your jacket, look at my phone and all the guys texting me, come to where I am..etc etc.

I also suspect she loves showing off to her friends.

Because of her apparent love for control, you must act the opposite of the other guys, I bet a majority of them were in your position at one time. Do not become a statistic and be one of those inbox bitches.

You can only avoid that by showing her she does not have you controlled, she will in fact try harder to gain control. This is a great opportunity to use her needs against her. If you play your cards right, you can actually get her to fuck you and believe it was her idea.

These type of women love to fuck with dudes, they seek control and admiration, the key here is to tease them with it, show a little bit but then take it away, make them believe there's a chance you could be controlled, but only if she works harder for it. Never give it to her, tease her as she does the others. Reverse the roles.

The more of a challenge you can become to her the better.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.