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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:39 pm 
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I think at the moment i have a mental block with regards to using to much physical contact from the beginning with girls...

like i need approval before i can get physical...

Instead of just applying physical touch without caring about consequences or what she thinks. Because in the end i guess its not that you should apply touch when she likes you, but rather put the touch before the liking because thats a huge factor in making her like you!!

I think my best solution for this problem is to sort out my beliefs regarding physical contact, and to couple that with really stretching my comfort zones and actually experiencing interactions where i have pushed alot of touch without permission from the start.

beliefs such as girls like touch, and you can start straight away are ones i must get into my head. if i believe this with faith and have had various past interactions where i have done this it should become the norm for me and applying touch with confidence will be no problem.

and then i can focus on more attractive ways of physical contact.

so still i need to work on my confidence with approaches and get my confidence with physical contact to a level where touching them even if they hate me is no problem.


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 Post subject: Need to push harder....
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:20 pm 
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----Fearless Approaching

Cold approaching just didnt happen for me the last two nights. I get to comfortable just gaming girls i know... i stick to my comfort zones, i know them so i dont put myself in uncomfortable situations. Even if some of them can be hooked, i really need to get my game out of my social circles and through random chance.

APPROACH WITHOUT FEAR... Its actually such an easy thing to do in itself, yet so many people including me never seem to execute. I just know that if i manage to get over this barrier i will really jumpstart my growth, with so many more opportunities for experience and learning.






---- Physical Contact

This has nothing to do with how i do it. The actual touching like lightly touching her shoulder, or holding her hands, these will all come naturally if i can just get the confidence and beliefs behind it right. I mean handholding is simple and can really move things along, or be a good indication if shes willing to kiss, but i rarely do any of that due to wrong beliefs. Gotta start touching girls AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, make it the norm, and make it a habbit.







----- Communication

Interations in the club really dont go as smoothe as they should due to miscommunications over the loud music. This comes down to me speaking with lack of clarity, to fast, and most importantly not projecting my voice to almost behind them. Need to make clear speaking a habbit to become more smoothe.

xx This projection must happen in a way you dont LEAN IN. always be leaning back standing tall, and be able to project with all your power, but dont shout.

xx Also make extra efforts to listen and actually be interested in what they say, if you mishear what they say rather dont ask what they said, just nod, and then switch with another question. also try techniques to hear clearer

xx Use the loud music as an excuse to get somwhere quieter for easier isolation.

BUT ONCE AGAIN DONT LEAN IN LET HER LEARN INTO YOU, stand back project! but be close proximity.







----- Being the man people like


* Use very friendly and consistant eyecontact, and almost use your eyes to send a smile into theirs. This will hopefully create a postive SPAM, and will be non creepy and create an air of confidence.


* You are always very relaxed, calm and at ease.


* You are social and friendly and always greet people with a smile and find out how they have been doing, and catch up a little bit.


* Smile like all the time! you know when you visualize the guy whos king of the club, hes always smiling, at like EVERYONE. smiling makes you look attractive and makes other people feel good.


* You dont complain, get upset at insults, you just dont exert negative energy. You laugh anything away.


* Dont creepily look around the club and at girls. The first time you should meet eyes is when you meet her!! unless you give a flirty smile when you meet eyes, but then approach straight away or soon!


* Compliment people and make them feel good! call guys my man, tell girls you like the outfit they are wearing. Just make people feel good and love your approval


* Make an effort to learn names and then call them by that. Either link the name with someone you know very well, or make a point of saying it 5 times in the conversation after you learn it. the name is the sweetest sound someone can hear.


* Always support people and dont be jealous


* Laugh A LOT


* You are always having fun, full of energy. You are so postive that people are addicted to your energy!!!!!!








------ Connective bubble

*** You actually are interested in the girl and act postive towards her.

*** you extend interactions and dont just bounce around or eject early. LONGER INTERACTIONS ARE WHERE RESULTS HAPPEN.

*** SIMPLE SMOOTHE FRIENDLY

you keep it very very simple and smoothe,
basically keep it lighhearted and friendly.
You do not say stupid things like insult her
you keep verbal talk very basic and very postive.

(most of your attraction is coming from physical contact, your good energy such as smiling, and a strong attractive presence with tons of confidence)


*** You qualify her and reward her and compli for good behavior.

Ask her if shes fun, etc but basically make conversation about her personality and finding out more about her, because that makes her prove herself. This is a tool to create deeper connection. (be genuine and interested in her!)


*** A fun conspiracy such as hooking her up with someone, think of that vibe, thats the sort of positive fun interaction you must always have with girls! Be silly, make her laugh, but be strong and attractive.







Last thoughts:

- Visualization technique of the man that everyone likes. Use the past present future thing where you picture you at different stages in the club.

- Key Belief: You are at a certain level right now. Finding a mistake does not make you worse, you are still the same. Thats why finding mistakes and then improving of those aspects is awesome!! You can only get better!!!

- Start taking some action, fucking set approach goals, work on your voice, be energetic and make things happen!!



*** Awareness if key, get into a state of mind where you know what you are doing and can properly control your actions. Get into that mind

Use state pumping techniques to get into a good mood (20 minutes and get past knock downs). Being aware in this good state mood is ultimate and where you will perform attractive new actions and slowly make them become the norm.


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 Post subject: Update of week events
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:17 pm 
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COLD APPROACHING
Sometimes i dont even think of cold approaching but more often than not im starting to talk to girls i dont know, or try force IOIs by smiling at them. my fearless approach usually comes off as a little ungenuine, so rather than just fuck with them for a minute then leave, cold approach, tease them a little, deliver well and then connect with her and have fun.
(KEY THING HERE IS THE IMPROVEMENT, becomes easier and easier every time)


Physical Contact
This has been great. touching on arms, longer handshakes with good eyecontact, lots of hugging and hand holding, arm around her shoulders... i am making a conscious effort to exert touch and at first it was hard but now it seems not one girl as reacted badly towards it or even seems to notice it at all. Got to keep doing this to imprint the belief that girls love to be touched and that it builds attraction and can be exerted even with out signals of interest. GIRLS LIKE TOUCH, work on the confidence and belief thats girls love it, and watch as experience will make me more natural and better at it all the time.


Delivery:
The voice tone has been alot more clear as i am aware of it. trying to project past them allows better communication. im using eyecontact more awarely now and am trying to use it to build connection, which it seems it works. Still trying my best to stop leaning in, doing stuff like projecting more and pulling her in to me if i want to whisper. smiling is good and postiive as usual.


Man people like
Using lines such as how you doing my brother, really talking to people as if i dig them alot and with alot of enthusiasm and support. Complimenting and being a really friendly oke, seems to work really well in making friends and being the man people like!


Connective Bubble
try have fun together more, have laughs, catch up etc. Might be i try battle to much still instead of having a jol together, quailifying her or rewarding her for investment, and putting easy physical escalation on for a smoothe process.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:28 pm 
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Last night i went out rather tired but somewhat more aware of what i did.


1.
I noticed some interesting things, like depsite what i think im doing, my eyecontact really is not up to scratch. I dont keep it consistant to say the least, as i look away sometimes, and in very bad cases at the floor!!

==== This could be a serious problem in losing girls attention in one on one conversation, almost creating that undeserving to be there vibe. The solution to this is go about thinking about eyecontact and trying to induce a connective, collected, and relaxed high value pull when you look at them. Use your eyes to deliver a "i know you want me" vibe with a a postiive frame (ie smile etc)



2.
My Voice sounds a little uncertain, and when talking to fast sounds unclear and unattractive. I have the power in my voice to deliver with a deep resonation, and a solid projection. So if i speak slow and smoothely while projecting, through practice and awareness

= A more high value and attractive, relaxed vibe.



3.
Smiling and Laughing,
creates all the positivity, connection, happy energy, and good vibes you need. It makes you look better, creates stronger emotions and chemistry.

= more attractive vibe, more postive SPAM, easy to do, winning.


4.
Move slower (and dont lean in, chin and chest up, be open)

Key point here is to be slower which allows you to be more smoothe leading to better hand gestures, not leaning in as much, playing attractive body language.





*All these 4 points are simply body language. Clear mistakes that i AM making and can improve on and monitor. The point of these is i know i could do alot better with them, i know how to practice them and improve them, so the point is practice these and my game will improve.




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After that three other important things come in mind... That really can improve your game tenfold comes down to mind!!!!


1. Confidence to approach. Its simple its easy, but it seems like the hardest thing to do. Swallow your pride and just do it. Stop procrastinating. having this skill will make you more attractive and confident, and have alot more interaction opportunity.


2. Physical Contact. Straight back to confidence. Creates so much attraction, imagine smoothe escalation with solid body language.


3. Ability to execute and choose your target. Dont go for so many people at once. Realize you are never wasting precious time talking to one chick or hooking up with one chick, even if you could do better. When you are having thousands of tiny interactions with no purpose, you are wasting time.
(Try become more direct, aim to get stuff done, even become more doggish with your hookups, a girls a girl as long as shes decent, just get hookups under your belt and work on someone from the beginning.)

Like if you see a potential hookup like last night, dont eject on a high, then try again way later beause chances are shes hooking up with someone else or any attraction in the moment is now gone. So dont go around looking for other options, take her right now and right there.









Last note: All three of the above come up to not caring or giving a fuck, having a powerful confidence. This gets built with experience, getting rejected and saying fuck it, and basically being in these situations so much you become immune.
Couple this with some healthy mindsets, but it really comes down to raw in field experience. You know how to improve these, and they come together in an umbrella, and will make your game soar to a new level. I want a practical way of guarenteed improvements, i have them right here and all i must do it now use them. YOu are never stuck in your ability to improve, all the steps are right here.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:06 pm 
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**Voice and Eyecontact: Definitely more aware of this and starting to be able to control these non verbal communications very well.

Its leading to better responses not to mention keeping attention with slow and high value voice with consistant eye contact is a lot more effective.

**Projection is definitely a key factor in the clubs. Ive started leaning back more and getting out a slow clear projeted voice . This has led to better communication over the loud music. Am mixing this up with whispering to get a more flirty vibe as well.

Note its not actually VOLUME which is the problem.
(Because i actually tend to shout to much which is unnatractive)

- Keep a normal volume of voice but focus on (1) A slow (2) Clear / pronounciated and (3) Resonating and projecting voice that is not a shout but a deep traveling tone that sounds manly and attractive.



** A lot more smiling is going on and my body language is more open and powerful, BUT still alot of room for improvement here... like more smiling for example.

But the main thing is i need more control over my facial expressions and my body language, and practice and awareness needs to be heightned, make use of a mirror!!



** Stopped the creepy stare thing.. stupid habbit that just looks stupid, so stopping it is just a bonus.


CONFIDENCE
- due to abundance of social circle opportunities still have been weak at this, but going overseas in a week, and hope to make use of this totally new area with no reputation at stake to go so overboard with new approaching that i change my mindset and eliminate fears of it.

- Physical contact still becoming more natural and prominent, but can still be heightened so much more!!!! more arms round shoulders and holding of hands, losing out on so many chances to increase attraction.
(Remember she likes to be touched you dont need permission! )


- not selecting or escalating with a target, isolating etc basically comes down to my weak physical escalation. If you have really good physical escalation skills, and exert it on everyone, then the choosing etc will take care of itself.




final note: Make more use of visualisations and mirrors.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:52 pm 
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I do not engage the girls properly.

- In a way i dont have proper interactions with them, actually care about them at all... Theres no genuine interest in them.

- This comes down to me not connecting with them etc

- i seem to always trip into this habbit of having power battles with them, shallow interactions where i chirp them etc, but there is no deep connection or attraction happening in these situations. This leads to EARLY REJECTIONS or LACK OF MOVING THINGS FORWARD....



* Another spin off of this is that i dont flirt with them with the sole objective of [b]being very sexually attracted [/b]to them and wanting them for this reason; rather i interact with them to gain power and win comment offs. (Which explains why when im drunk i just go for them not caring and easily hookup. )

- so i should rather always be thinking about girls in a sole hookup sense which would result in me hooking up more, less indecison and just going with my insticts.



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So whats the solution then??

Its pretty simple. Be simple.

Stop trying to be to smart, pull of such witty verbal lines, win power battles etc... it might seem clever and get good reactions but theres no actual attraction underlying these weak interactions!!!


The answer is to be smoothe and simple...
basically to SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR

- Just like those guys at the beerpong bar last night
- Like that guy who your friend cant stop speaking about or getting fucked over by

The goal is to MAKE THE CONVERSATION SMOOTHE

[u]by saying what she wants to hear[/u]
= Longer interactions, more connection, less fuckups from wrong sayings, less indecison for girls, more natural flow, more direct and to the point, also by properly engaging you actually find out which girls are interested etc




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So with this fundamental rule, here are my concepts for the time being


1. Be smoothe and simple by telling her what she wants to be told
(You want girls for sex; not for stupid power games)

2. Confidence: not giving a fuck, being comfortable, taking action (Learnable)

3. Non Verbal Communication (For better communication and higher value)

4. PHYSICAL ESCALATION (Through practice, can create all sexual tension needed)

5.Chilled, fun, easy going. (Being the MAN: always postive vibes, addictive energy)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:29 pm 
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So i have addressed some of my concerns and tried the stuff i wrote down last time with some postitive results

1.

Most importantly
The go smoothe - tell the girl what she wants to hear approach has worked beautifully. The increased positive engagement, and engagement in interactions in general has led to proper strong attractions, and deep rooted connections being made. The lack of stupid comment wars has changed my impact socially from having little effect, to now creating longer and more powerful attractions, ones creating proper deep rooted fun and other addictive emotions.

Also by having proper engagement in interactions it eliminates unnecesary fuckups etc. I use to play with little power and big chance for failure. Now i work on it being more smoothe and very much so more powerful. It has also had an influence in the way that from more engagement, leads to more interaction time and the interaction seems to escalate and go more forward, instead of just ejecting etc. This has led to me also getting some nice hookups, from less indecision and just loving the girls.

So keep it smoothe, simple, and have deeper engagement that actually attracts them. Say what they deep down want you to say.

2.

A slowed down, more resonant and friendly voice has led to good results to. I sound and act more confident on one hand. On the other it is much easier to hold attention and i feel a lot more in control. It provides clearer, more smoothe and far more attractive communication.

3.

The introduction of not only physical escalation, but escalation in general to has had wonderful implications. More eyecontact, changes in proximity, increased whispering, more compliments and flirts etc, and still most importantly lots of touch actually worked so well for me as an attraction tool. So when i go overseas tomorrow i must strive to become confident and natural at escalation.





If i can be smoothe enough and create constant attraction, with the stronger enough communication non verbally, and confidence to escalate etc properly then i should get the basics completely done, and then have more fun doing advance game and focusing more on tactics and so on in the future.

I know what the basics are, its easy, i just have to take risks and start practicing it and making it natural.


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 Post subject: a solid week
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:16 pm 
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The last week has been a real eye opener. There have been some great experiences, great lays, and real good insights leading to my game getting noticebly better.


The Approach
1. Realized how easy it actually is. To go up and talk to someone. This has led to meeting many new people and lifting my game higher.

- Saw a guy who I know pulls such hot girls get rejected several times in one night. Thing is, he also got some hot girls that night to. This has made me fully see how rejection is nothing to worry about and is actually fun, make a joke about it and laugh.

- Sometimes the landing will be a bit rough, just stay in there for a minute or two and try smoothen it out. A lot of the time they seem to ease up a bit when I make them laugh a bit.

- Make the approach as friendly and postive as possible, it seems to make them more comfortable. (Laugh a lot )

- MAKE SURE I speak slowly and as clearly as possible, project etc. Miscommunication on approach leads to a burn. Focus on making sure they can hear you.

- Strong and connective eyecontact coupled with a smile creates a relaxed and confident vibe.

- Most of all, its just so fun.


2. Smoothe vibes has been working amazing. Tell them what they way to hear, and listen to what they have to say.

- have fun, make an idiot of yourself if you have to once you have been chilling with her for a while, seems to make her feel more comfortable.

- Aim for huge fun and playfulness, you guys are having a good time together.

- Act happy, smile, aim to connect with her.

- Basically create this fun friendly and positive vibe, make it fun and smoothe. (Think B) , roleplay, poke eachother, say everything with a fun and non serious attitude

- keep it simple, don't try be dick or whatever, say stupid things, or say anything complicated or rude etc without a laughing fun loving vibe, EVER



3. Escalation

- exert physical contact as much as possible. From get go push forward.

- take risks. Thiis girls like to be touched especially if you have made them feel comfortable, and if they don't approve she won't just walk away, and then you can usually just rinse repeat and try a bit later.

- Got rejected for kiss 3 times, but then finally got it. If she's not ready she probably won't just leave, and it seems it works well for creating the tension. Try kiss her even if she's maybe not ready.

- pump buying temp when making moves, a move with awkward silence or vibes will seem creepy. Laugh and create energy!

- arm round shoulder, hand holds are solid.

- if you don't move things forward she will end up leaving, always be closing!




Lastly, just have fun with it and be a fun happy person.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:58 pm 
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The last two nights out i thought fuck it and literally approached anyone i wanted to. Not only that but i made some risky moves.



Though i did get rejected a few times, i realized how harmless and perhaps even fun it actually is! and of course the rewards were well over worth it!

- Most girls opened up easily and were friendly

- Some had little interest at first but at some well time pushing on the resistance seemed to die and they seemed to open up even better than ones above.

- Some did not give any chance, but i didnt give a fuck! i just need to keep opening and improve my skills, they will open soon enough!



* All these opens led to many more fun and interesting interactions and lots more experience to practice and grow.

- I was able to try apply some of the things i talked about in the post before.

- Pushed physical contact more and realized how much it created attraction, holding hands, arm around shoulders etc

- Went for kiss a few times where i got blocked, but actually had success 2nd or 3rd attempt. She usually doesnt mind and knows you want to kiss her anyway it seems...

- Moved things along better which was nice, pushed location changes and isolation for one

- Smoothe and connective vibes worked a charm. Had fun with them and had a good time together, they were far more interested.
(Think of it as POSTIVE ENGAGEMENT, use to be big lack of this, getting better!)

- VERY SLOW and projected talking led to better communication



So becoming less fearless leading to better confidence and more experience to work on escalation and smoothe connection tactics... winning




Focuses stand:

- Keep approaching like this! it is fun, it is scary, and it is addictive. Cant wait till my next night out!

- Work on physical escalation tactics, be bold

- Smoothe and simple connection (Fun together etc) POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT

- Speaking SLOW AND CLEAR, ( And other non verbals on approach ie eyecontact and smiling etc)





So approaching is easy... just walk in there with loads of confidence and have have fun with it. then move it forward with smoothe escalation and ABC


Rejection lasts a second, but regrets last forever. Have fun and approach!


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Approaching is still seeming pretty harmless, and fun. I want to become completely comfortable with opening before refining the approach and what i actually do on approach. Nights are alot more fun now that im meeting so many new girls.



Physical Contact is definitely becoming more present. Arms around, hand holding etc is becoming more natural. Just need to keep getting more comfortable and natural with it. ---- Need to work on more attractive touch now, get rid of some bad or annoying habbits.




With regards to smoothness and postive engagement, i really need to slow it down even more. Get a much more mature and simple nature. I think slowing down my delivery speed even more is definitely going to do wonders. Slower movements and especially voice (needs to be slower and more resonant)




Still having some troubles with closing, but its definitely getting better. As i become more confident with touch and escalation, this should just end up coming naturally though. Got to remember being denied a kiss doesnt mean to much, it just makes the interaction more direct. --- Perhaps need to work more on getting isolation.


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 Post subject: Great night out
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:21 pm 
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Went all out last night not caring about rejection. There was only one time it was pretty bad, the rest was very casual with alot of success as well.

- Got to keep up this momentum, its pretty addictive dont think i can stop now

- Even worked on delivery a bit because i was so chilled out opening

- Made good use of the dance floor (Moved it forward more and better isolation)

- Some rough landings but after a while they seem to open up alot

- Even approached girls who had tons of guys around them

- Still so much fun, and a lot more success

(Success makes you more confident and rejection just makes you more tough)

Dont know why i didnt start doing this a long time ago



My Opening tactics for now:

* Strong and Friendly eyecontact is vital
* With a warm smile
* A slow and projected introduction

Just walk up there and project loads of confidence and good vibes
(Also want to start on warming up opens before going in, using smiles)






With regards to kiss closing, im becoming better at it.
- Eyecontact and no speaking = sexual tension
- Look down at her lips
- Smile a little maybe, basically just dont make it creepy
- Use hands to lead in, brush her hair aside, squeeze her hand etc.
- If she doesnt do it just kiss her cheek or pretend to whisper in her ear






Last note: Not moving things forward was a big problem for me, but its getting better. The increased physical escalation and created better vibes and movement and isolation also gets things moving along.

(Seems most girls in the club want a quick movement thing and dont want to hang around if it seems nothings going to happen.)

So move it up, and get some more progress in the interaction.




Spot - Open - Smoothe Mid - Isolation - K close - Extract
(All the time effective physical escalation)

So working on opens at the moment
and also getting a more escalated mid game


last note: Try add some roleplaying or other fun stuff into mid to keep interesting


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 Post subject: Getting back on track
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:17 pm 
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Slacking a little bit on the opening

Need to regain the momentum, good thing is i know its still there somewhere



* It seems on nights when the clubs very full i can lose state to easily, need to mentally keep pumping up the energy


So goal for tonight now is, APPROACH 10 GIRLS

Keep it simple, just do it, with a fun mindset

There is isnt anything more to it, just tap into that fearless vibe thats there



Lastly


- Dont need to have any worries on conversation for now, just focus on mantaining a STRONG FRAME and exert loads of confidence in the interaction

- Try escalate quickly again and be very confident with touch

- Visualize it really is pretty much the same thing

- Try direct opener, but then keep it very direct with strong frame mentioned


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 Post subject: Back on track
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:32 am 
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Felt a lot more comfortable out last night, its like girls i dont know just dont seem very hard to get any more. Didnt get to approach as got to caught up in other things.




1. YOU CAN APPROACH BY YOURSELF and MOVE IN ASAP (3 sec rule)

I need to stop needing a friend to go around approaching, dont make excuses do it yourself if you have to!


I also noticed that when i took a while to approach someone and gave it thought, stared at them etc for to long it always leads to bad things. They either leave, you amp your self out of it, or it just comes acrross as a bit creepy after a while. So really when i practice this approaching employ the 3 second rule! otherwise dont even aknowledge they are there.




2. VOICE TONE

I think one of my big sticking points especially on a new meeting is my lack of voice clarity. I really need to speak a lot slower, more resonant and more pronounced. Them not hearing you kills smootheness, its an easy way to fix a lagging problem. So voice communication. Also in loud clubs you HAVE TO ESCALATE alot faster.





3. JUST KISS HER ITS NO BIG DEAL

Once again i need to remind myself going for kiss really isnt a big deal and is very easy and not bad when it goes wrong, as i found out last night.




4. CONNECTIVE VIBES REALLY DO MAKE IT SMOOTHER


but more importantly.... CALL IT POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT

A big problem with me is not engaging enough in the past. Actually interacting properly has led to wonders. So instead of a quick hello and then eject, i now stick in there and put in a good amount of time of smoothe interaction. Working wonders just need to do it more.


Was a lot more connective and happy with everyone which really did lead to a smoother interaction, that was more fun and built chemistry quick, and also allowed for better chance to physical escalate which is the most important thing.




* So for now need to hit up a lot of approaches whilst moving in almost immediately. You need to back the approach up with very stong framed confidence and a very clear and projected voice tonality.



Sticking Points
1. Lack of engagement / ejecting to early
2. Fear of approach
3. Voice projection and clarity


So thats what you work on for now, seriously work on it! Most important No. 2

(And always be working on escalation skills)


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:16 pm 
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Ever since being more direct and interested in her, basically just engaging her more and not breaking rapport, things have gone a lot smoother.

- I say less stupid stuff, so attraction just get killed

- More time for physical escalation and thus proper attraction

- Come across as more mature, almost more solid as a person

- the interaction actually happens properly and moves along

- they dont think im some disinterested and arrogant dick, so instead of them not trying at all and seeing no point in even trying to hookup with me after a point; they show tons more signals and the vibe has alot more chemistry to it




* Thus continue to show interest, break no rapport, and engage them properly ie dont eject and have solid interactions where you actually connect. Connect, in past completely underconnecting with girls due to not putting in enough time

Talk less listen more






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Other issues:


- Seductive eye contact, dont do this at the beginning if there isnt talking or interaction its just creepy. While listening or talking it goes perfect, rather leave the silent staring earlier in the interaction

saying that, seductive eyecontact with a relatively blank face and a confident smile while listening and talking to her has created solid attraction and is working beautifully keep doing it! this with escalation is creating not only all the attraction i need but actually more than ever due to not losing any by breaking rapport or acting disinterested.


- rapid escalation working very well, keep making crazy bold moves working like a charm. best thing is it seems girls dont care when you do it like ever! if they deny you escalation and dont stick around then she doesnt want you get over it, what did you have to lose anyway. if shes sitting there with you still she still wants you (Just remember to not react at all)


- approach more seriously


- voice tone become noticeably clearer and slower leading to far better communication in loud venues, this coupled with not breaking rapport and showing them some interest and good escalation has led to easy closes


- stop getting drunk and saying retarded shit, stop asking friends for approval too


- shock and awe worked well for me a few times when going in for a ridiculously early close where i got denied coupled with being totally non-reactive. and like 60 said it just made them want me even more!


- Dont ever lean in, dont even lower my head.. maintaining a strong confident posture while she leans in is so attractive. not leaning in with good posture is pretty much most of body language besides not reacting i feel


- Never ever stare, if you catch eye contact do 3 second rule, only hold eye contact when there is talking or interaction happening dont stare !!!


- start by not touching girl, need to try this... rather escalating instead of immediately trying to dance, let her ease into it!!


- Need to use power social momentum more, start straight away and feel how it builds up


- persistence is golden for me at the moment, need to keep going through resistance with a nonreactive frame... it seems most of the resistance they give means nothing and could even mean they want me more, need to stop interpreting resistance as them not being interested and rather fuck it time to show her im the man


Ideas im taking out with me

- rapid escalation
- dont break rapport show interest in her and engage proper longer interactions
- dont react when denied, realize closing just make her want me more
- clear voice tone, SLOWER
- no seductive eye contact that is staring
- Not leaning in at all.


and fucking approach


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Some cool stuff i read just want to remember it

- more emphasis on 3 second rule ...and when you catch eye contact with a girl with good body language and a slight smile and she holds you gaze... most likely she wants you go up straight away. or if she keeps glancing go straight up to her again as soon as you catch eye contact... never stare or keep looking use corner of eyes
(only seductive eye contact on initial eye contact when approach is coming right away or when in conversation or close proximity)


- non reactive and slow body language, head always high and eye contact forward


- rejection is something that will always be there deal with and love it


- Escalate so fast that you WANT RESISTANCE... and realize its resistance not rejection so persist and watch how they finally comply. if they reject you for kiss or resist your hand hold, if she's still there she does want you.
(the more she bullshits you and resists you but still stays the more she wants you so long as you keep an unreactive frame.)

(realize the way she reacts is different to how she feels, the amount she laughs is not the factor in how much she likes you... stop feeling the need to have this solid social vibe by talking to much and entertaining; you should be getting more resistance than good reactions received, from your verbal talking.)


- shes probably already made the decision if she wants you or not so be confident as fuck, non reactive and just persist her resistance with rapid escalation. escalate fast and show confident non reactive behaviour.


- use social momentum straight away and realize its power






Just remember.. she wants you more than you think she does. if shes still there but resisting she still wants you


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