Hi

I'm referring to this post about the same girl:
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The situation is the following.

The target is new in town. I contacted her through FB. In total we met up 3 times. 2 times of those 3 she brought friends.

Note: She is Italian. You have to know a little bit about those girls. They are VERY traditional: guy should do all the work, and in addition it is common for them to set up groupdates. (Moreover they are the hardest girls of whole Europe to get in to your bed, but also the hottest ones)

Target is giving me some IOI regularly, but mainly passive IOI's.
-She starts OFTEN converstations when i'm on Facebook (much more than i do with her).
-She asks me out on me adding her friends and chatting them up (jealous?)
-One time in the groupdate, i ignored her and tried to talk more with her friends. She clearly tried to get my attention.
-Curls her hair
-Laughs with my jokes

On the contrary, all stays quite passive. No kino, never asks me out (but again: in italy this is kind of the "standard") and the most annoying thing:

SHE IS FUCKING SILENT AND INTROVERT. Completely closed personality. Damn. Seems like she has a complete lack of conversation skills. Seems like i really can't get her open up

Here lies the problem. How the hell can you game silent/introvert girls without being stuck in the friend zone?

I used the teasing all the time, but most of times she doensn't seem to 'understand' or just remains silent.

On facebook conversations sometimes stop after 5 sentences. Does no effort whatsoever to keep the convo going.

Questions:
Drop the girl and move on?
Be completely direct on her?
Keep on talking in order to let her open up and build more rapport?
In general: how to game silent and introvert girls?

Thanks

It seems that from your description you dont have a bad handle on this. However it seems like she is in control of everything . SHE is deciding when you guys hang out and SHE is deciding how fast you guys move. She either likes you or she doesnt and after three times of hanging out with you she knows which one it is. I dont buy into tradition and I dont believe that you should have to do all the leg work. Woman are all wired the same way and although environmental upbringing can have an effect on her belief system of what she THINKS a guy should do and what he should be like, it is not necessarily congruent with what her actions will be.

You need to take control. I wouldnt completely stop talking to this girl but dont JUST focus on her. Talk to other girls as well because this alone will have 2 powerful effects on your game. First of all if you are talking to other girls this convey to her that you do not need her. It will convey to her that girls are abundent in your life and this alone will cause her to jump off her high horse. (assuming she is afraid of losing you as a friend/partner/fuck buddy ect.) Secondly It will have a strong effect on you. If other girls are in your life you italian lady will naturally descend from her pedestal and you will naturally stop caring as much when you are around her. This will drive her crazy.

The worst thing you can do is convey to her that you are needy, desperate, or have thought about a future with her in it. Girls can sense this stuff and it is super unattractive to them.

Finally when you are around this girl act charismatic, outgoing and like you just dont give a fuck. Dont seek her approval and do not be outcome dependent. If she makes a snarky remark at you, yes i said snarky, or doesnt respond to your teasing, then respond back unaffected.

Hah I hope this helps and you can draw some useful information from a post that clearly turned into more of a rant. Good luck man and cheers.

-BRAD

Hi Brad

Thanks for your post.

Actually, most of what you've said i already do. I talk with lot of girls. Next weekend my fuck buddy is coming over for the weekend. In July i go visit another fuck buddy. I 'm meeting about 2 or 3 other woman from time to time.

However i don't seem to take advantage of the fact that i have different options. I should try indeed to signal my popularity a lot more. I also try not to be too needy with her.

I was already thinking to freeze her out more, but since she isn't the one asking me out (I really don't think she will ever do that) + she is quite insecure i have noticed, i'm afraid she would think I don't like her enough (this is of course assuming she is liking me..)

So basically i'm doubting:

option 1: never initiate conversations, let girls comment on my facebook, go out and meet other people (doing that anyway), not asking her out

=> to be done if she actually trying to game me and stay in control

option 2: direct approach, ask her out, if she asks her friends to join joke about it (are you afraid of me alone ?) and directly tell her i'd prefer to meet only with her

=> to be done if she is insecure

Usually i run i quite solid game. I'm a good looking guy and have absolutely no problem getting chicks. But this one is so introvert, closed, silent, .. i just cant READ her.
I need to be sure what option to go with so to calibrate my game in a right way.

anymore help on how to game non-talkative girls?

These types of girls are time wasters and you're allowing your time to be wasted. You've never explicitly told this girl you're interested in more than friendship so man up. You're expecting her to make the move for you she won't.

She keeps inviting her friends when you ask her to hang out that's a clear sign she's not interested. Right now you are on damage control, friend zone etc. Move on.

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Take her somewhere high energy like a club, get her to dance and kino the shit out of her. Focus less on conversation and more on non-verbals/body language. If she's not down for that then toss her into the pile of boring, frigid broads that aren't worth your time and make a point of NOT dating social retards.

I think that should try to escalate. If it weirds her out, show disinterest, maintain state, and then you'll know that you need more 1. value 2. comfort... Just do it in a super non-needy way, put her in a headlock while telling her she smells good. Stroke her hair while looking away. As mystery method student, try giving her an IOD with every IOI you give her, hope that helps.

Watch "lovedrop kino escalation" on U-tube. Awesome vid imo.

Other then that. Try, GAMING her friend. This shit works.

I've had the flakiest girl ever start chasing me after I asked for her friends phone number hahaha. Fuck it, just go for her friend, cause and effect dude, she will start chasing you once she understands that you have OPTIONS, girls love you, and if they not put a move on you, on to the next one, why not?

Siedways