How is it that overwieght men in there 40s or late 30s who wear t shirt and jeans with mustach and goatees or other guys with scruffy beards can easily get gfs who are attractive? Are these men that spectacular? Im tottally baffled, can anyone explain this to me? How can guys who dont need this pua material can easlity get gfs with in a matter of days. or a couple weeks. What is it that they do? Should I act like a tough guy and make fun of people is that what they are doing, im lost.

They display some of the qualities that attract women. That doesn't mean they display all the qualities and women are often unhappy with many aspects of them.

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Men are seduced visually, women are seduced verbally. That helps explain why looks really don't matter nearly as much as you'd think.

As for the dudes who don't need the PUA material to get women, they obviously have some natural game, and know how to flip those attraction switches in women. Otherwise, one might say they are settling with the first thing that looks their way...

Either way, don't be the guy who settles! You deserve a choice, rather than being chosen. When a woman chooses a man, well, those are the women that are easy to get to cheat on their man. Wow, my grammar is shit today. I think you get what I mean though.

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what are the qualities? (cocky funny, kino?).... When I go out im always by myself so that might be a disadvantage for me nor do i have many male friends that i can go out with all the time so my days off are pretty much spent by myself.

quote muse-"Men are seduced visually, women are seduced verbally. That helps explain why looks really don't matter nearly as much as you'd think."

Now if this is true should just stick to my usual taste in clothing which is t shirt jeans grunge look? I also have long hair that I wear down. Ever seen how the guys looked in that video smells like teen spirit? yeah thats me.

Brand779. At my highschool last year (before I was serious about learning this stuff. I read some in passing) I was one of the few alpha males of the school with usaully two-three girls liking me at any one time, while dating one of the hotter girls in the school.

I did this while always wearing jeans and cheap tshirts that you buy at sears, walmart, etc. I was also overweight. And the guys wearing name brands and stuff were astonished.

It's all about your attitude.


You should read some PUA literature.

Im new to the pua world and i have been reading material but it doesnt come quickly, or cheap. Thanks for your insight.

It really is all about your attitude. Your personal frame of mind. You HAVE to be confident AND comfortable. Confident IN who YOU are. Comfortable WITH who YOU are. When you accomplish that, the girls will notice, and you'll start setting their world on fire.

I'm going to assume this is yet another AFC that hasn't read anything in regards to the psychology behind "attraction."

Not necessarily. If you've come here to learn then there must be some natural qualities you're missing that these other guys you've seen DO possess. Yes, a sense of style is something that a woman will really notice...BUT I have friends with zero fashion sense, shower rarely, and get laid all the time(think over size SPAM t-shirt, jeans, and 3 days worth of beard). Naturals. Like Tripp said, a lot of it has to do with confidence in yourself and the congruence of your personality with the image you choose portray yourself as.

I'm not telling you you have to change your style, or stay with the same grunge look. I'm just saying it's possible. Attraction for women isn't all in the looks the guy has. Looks will only help to get you in the door. It's the personality that hooks the woman, and flipping those attraction switches that does most of the work and keeps her coming back for more.

Realizing that it's not all about your looks to a woman is an idea that takes alot of guys awhile to get used to, and hell, sometimes I still don't believe it when I look in the mirror. But it's true.

As far as men being seduced visually, I don't think there's an argument there. It's pretty well documented in society. Those that think with more than their dick have more requirements for a woman though.

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As far as my personality goes im an introvert, a mute if you will. So trying to talk is hard for me and i run out of things to talk about quickly unless ive had a lot to drink. I was medicating myself with energy drinks to make myself more socialble while at work. But in a nutshell i have a boring persona.

Well, the only way to change that . . . is for YOU to take action and change it.

more money/cocaine, nice car, wealthy, funnyer

all I can think of right now

like LA trip said, you just need to change the things about u that are hurting your chances!

If u discuss this with someone they may say "Why would u change the way u act, thats who u r....u cant fake it".

WHY??? because its getting you no where! Do what u need to do man, u will be amazed at the change.

Im only a few months into this. I use to be the guy that stod in the corner with friends drinking beers, most nights not even talking to any women! Now, if u see me at a bar and im not in a set im proboly in the bathroom. I kick myself in the ass for not being this way years ago.

Im still learning, but its definatly working for me.

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I share your pain

It amazes me how any of us got laid as AFCs



I like to think of it this way...

imagine you are an average guy.
You are in a bar and there is a HB9 who has noticed you and thinks that you are attractive. There also is a HB6 who has noticed you and also thinks you are attractive. They haven't shown you that they are interested yet.
The HB9 stands in the corner drinking. The HB6 approaches you and starts a conversation.

Which one has the better chance of success with you.

Hot chicks like older dudes. And older dudes can read their signals.

How many times do I have to say this?

You can act like a tough guy all you wont, or make fun of people and it wont make any difference. Be patient.., your day will come. And the more homework you do now, the better it will be later.

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