I hear that this one is good for all girls "Hey I saw you from across the street and I thought you looked adorable, so I wanted to come say hi, then introduce yourself", but then people say you shouldn't praise/kiss a girl who gets praised for her good looks all the time. Would that opener still work for a girl who is like an 8 or a 9 or even a 10 and gets hit on a lot? and how often do you think an 8 get's hit on a day?(in general, just out of curiousity)

There is a weird trend with girls getting hit on. The hotter a girl is, the more likely she is to get hit on, up to a certain point. When you get to the smoking hot girls, most guys feel intimidated and don't ever approach, so they actually rarely get hit on. So going direct with a "10" would probably be a great way to go. With a 7 or 8, I would say be semi direct, but disqualify her quite a bit, she needs to know that you're interested, but also needs to know that she doesn't get brownie points just for being attractive. She just gets to meet you.

Thanks for the reply, but do you think that opener would be good for the majority of girls who are in general a 7 or an 8 or higher?

when you are being direct it is not using lines, it is simply directly communicating what your intentions are, always expressing yourself in a completely honest way

when you are being direct, open every girl directly, no gimmicks

lets say for example you see a girl and think what a cute girl, I want to talk to her, but this might be weird

go over get her attention with excuse me, when she gives you eye contact, be direct

''hey, I know this is kind of weird, but you're a cute girl, I want to talk with you for a sec''

then start talking, that is what direct is all about, don't sweat the small stuff like hb5 hb10 hb9, don't game any girls any differently, if you do, you are putting pussy up on a pedatstool, the only thing that changes between hotties and average girls, is guys tend to treat them differently, either overcompensating and seeking approval in subtle ways, usually supplication and needy behavior, or they become reaction seeking and stop trying to be themselves, they play it too cool for school and start doing weird passive aggressive rude shit,

now if you saw a different girl, and you though, OMFG THIS IS CRAZY, THAT GIRL IS FUCKING PERFECT, I MUST MEET HER,

then you rush over, stop her and say, ''OMFG THIS IS CRAZY, YOU ARE LIKE FUCKING PERFECT, I MUST MEET YOU''

same thing applies, it was what was in your head, it was direct, it was authentic, it was how you actually feel from that moment, to the next moment, express yourself directly

don't change it up, a person is a person, you are as attractive as you are attractive, a 5 finds you just as attractive as a 10, however the 10 is more likely to be involved with more guys, and be more comfortable around guys in general, so don't be worried if 5's seem more into you then 10's, that is just because the 10 is used to attention, just believe in yourself, and know that you can get with both, it's all in your head

I agree with pump, well at least that's how I usually approach. I feel like after talking to them for a while they probably don't even remember what you came and opened them with if the interaction is going well enough. That whole idea of you can open by saying just about anything started making more sense to me the more I went out in the field.

She maybe a hot, a 9. She may get hit on countless times in a bar, but I can guarantee that hardly anyone has had the balls to approach her during the day in the street with such confidence

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yeah,people may have been afraid to open a 10..but the there is a big chance that she already heard some oppinion opener..

from my(little) experience,when you open a hot,hot girl,the best way is a cold read.you see something on her,and you comment about it.

with this you make a big difference.you didn't saw and said to her something that everybody sees,or does like "you are cute,I wanna talk with you", you saw something that little percentage of people do.

you can always use a finger ring routine

also you can neg,but you have to be careful with the delivery

I hope I helped..sorry if my english isn't the best.

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Gotta agree with this.

One of my SNLs was a 3-set opened with "Hey girls, is it okay for guys to wear make-up...?" And then "Reason is, I'm wearing some right now... blah blah blah"

Pretty amusing night.


When I first started going out, I would always use opinion openers. Now I can't f'in stand them. Seriously, I had a wing who would open with one, run out of things to say, and then use another one. One of the girls was like "wtf??? do you take a survey every time you go out??"

Unless they are incredibly amusing/different like the make-up one, I can't do them anymore. I'm burnt out on "Hey... do you think ex's can be friends?"

Girls aren't stupid, they get hit on all day long. You think they can't see through your contrived little line? They go out to get hit on... Hell, the one I hooked up with after the make-up opener told me later, "mmm pretty smooth, no intentions huh"?