Hey guys.

So i was on the train today and got some IOI's off this HB8. This is how it went:

ME: (just about to get off the train) escuse me, i think your REALLY cute. ive gotta get off now but can i get your number?
HB: umm, i dont really give out my number..
ME: ah, um, huh, ok well no worries (leave to get of train)
HB: wait, your getting off now?
ME: yeah, this is my stop..
HB: (hand out for phone)
ME: cheers, whats your name?
HB: fifi...
ME:(leave without responding)

As i said before she was giving me some serious IOI's and she went and stood next to me and we caught eachother's eye contact on mumerous occassions but i was shitting myself. but then i thought the worst case scenario would always be regretting not doing it so i manned up and did it lol ha.

So what do you guys think of the above convo with me and this HB?
Anything i can improve on?
Whats a better way of handling the initial rejection?
Also, what should i text her as a good opener and how should i approach this?

Cheers.

It was pretty good overall, you succeeded. The hardest part was making the approach and you did it, good job dude.

Here is an example of a response you could of did for her initial rejection.

Her: I don't really give out my number.
You: well! I don't really approach random beautiful women, so I guess that makes me the first to be spontaneous, now it's your turn. Hand her your phone.

Opener texts: engage her, be fun, compliment her on her being bold and giving you her digits. Talk about the eye contact on the train, ask her if she was checking you out and acknowledge that you were checking her out. Let the rest of the conversation flow as it will.

Start it off with your name, and be sure to mention the train. Then go from there.

You: Hi Fifi, it's X from the train...........That was kinda cool the way you took control and gave me your digits. I really like spontaneous people, its a great quality. etc etc. then just go with the flow. Show your interest.

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What SexAddict said is something I would do. But cut the intellectual mind orgy in your texts, arrange for a meetup right away - assume you know her. To be honest, the fact she gave it to you as you left is interesting.....im guessing this wont be a flake.

I disagree with setting up a meeting right away within the first few texts. It will come off as pushy and desperate.

You must have a decent conversation first. Hence the "intellectual mind orgy" he had no time to build any rapport and so far, interest is only based on looks.

He needs to seduce her mind a little bit first, then set up a meeting. Women need to be intrigued, they are emotion based, strike some emotions then set up a meeting. It can be done in one simple text conversation.

Read my tag line.

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Well, I do mean write a few texts. Don't obviously put - 2 days 3 PM CENTRAL STATION. BE THERE.

lol

Yea establish some baseline text rapport...but he doesn't need to get caught up in text game. And I feel you're ignoring the fact that most women don't get as stimulated through text as they do face-to-face. So too much text game and he's just making a buddy.

Cheers for the responses. yeah i hear all u!

i want to build good quick rapport and comfort in order to arrange a meet up where i can run routines on her but for my text game - i dont know whether to be boring and ask her standard questions like where u are from blah blah blah or be flirtatious but i dont want that to come off as despereate.. i think maybe im looking to show initiial interest however i dont wantto be too forward as she may not tick all of my boxes and i might be the one doing the rejection!

This is where you are wrong my friend. I seduce women via texts all the time, in fact it is a huge part of my game. You see women will be a lot more open sexually through this means of communication. They can take their time to reply, they dont have to worry about blushing, showing nervousness or anything. It's a great way to open women up sexually. I use this avenue to gauge them sexually ( pre-meeting)

The more I can get them to open up, the more they will associate me with sex and sexuality. If they open up completely and decide to meet. Sex and sexual contact is implied. In other words, its gonna happen.

If this is something new to you, rather then argue it, try it out. You will be pleasantly surprised.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

I'll admit I haven't tried it out, because a bulk of my game is enforced on implying the sexuality right when I see them, and most of them even when they get surprised, they see I don't really stutter and I can care less if they don't like the boldness in my dominance.

Rather than text game unless the meetup is far away, I like to meet up usually after a few baseline texts and I do the rest in person. It's two different ways of doing it. You stimulate their mind through text and you may have a good point they have a lot of time to think about it, but realistically they also have avenues to ignore it.

In face-to-face, it allows me to really gauge where a woman is at than her "mind" I'm sure you know some women say one thing and do another in your years of experience. Text is the same.

Stop being stubborn and try it out bro. It can work wonders. I have convinced women through sexual texting to kiss me immediately when we meet up, without even a word being said. Women love to live in their imaginations, that's why romance novels are so popular with them, at all ages. I am generally sexual in person to and within seconds of first meeting, but sometimes logistics, doesn't give enough time to escalate properly face to face, if you have a few days in between the next encounter, getting into their minds is a great way to eliminate any flake potential, and its a great way to gauge the woman as far as her own sexuality and willingness to play. If she doesn't open up at all, i'll usually cut them lose and work on my other prospects and eliminate the encounter all together.

When you have women in abundance, it is important to be efficient with your encounters. I am all about sex, and sexual encounters. If I am seeking a girlfriend thats a different story. 90% of seducing a woman is getting in their mind.

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I'll try that out more....I'll admit it's not something I've done heavily...but I'm not going to sit here and be like "No...NOO....It can't work IT CANT"

I'll definitely try it. And I agree, logistics can fuck up the sexuality face-to-face...so I suppose having some backing on the text is definitely something I want to start considering. I usually do a lot of texting when we've already had sex....

she is definitely interested for some reason. It can be because she likes your appearance or it can be that she is desperate or whatever.. It doesn't matter. Anyway, good job and the hard part of this pick up was having balls to do it anyway and it worked. All you have to do now is not fuck it up and be cool.. Don't text her 100 times a day or say something that would creep her out. Text her for few days and keep her interested and get to know her before you try and meet up with her.
I normally text girls : " Hey, I'm x meet you today at z.. Store my number with care " In your case a good opener would be what the sex addict said

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Fuck her mind, then her body.

A great way to gauge a woman sexually through text is 1-10 questions. Just like any escalation you start off slow, and gauge her reactions, talk about kissing, cuddling, if she replies well, start to move up. If it gets ramped up bust out the 1-10 questions.

example: Out of 1-10 how would you rate your sexuality?
1-10 how naughty are you in bed?
1-10 how spontaneous are you?

this has a a huge psychological significance. The responses don't lie. If a woman replies anything over a 7 for any of these questions, she is generally good to go. The reason it has significance is because it is generally an unconscious reply, but even when they take their time to answer, they are basically telling you how much they are physically/sexually interested in you. Some girls may not want to look too slutty but still want to show their sexual desire, so 7 is usually their reply, but you gotta love when you get the woman that reply 10/11/12

If you are witty and smooth, this can easily be transitioned into sex immediately when you meet. I'd say 8/10 women i get this ramped up are actually sending me naughty photo's of themselves.

Here's the thing bro, I am not just talking older women. I look very young for my age, I get girls at all ages. They are all generally the same when it comes to sexual banter.

I hear a lot of the PUA guru's are saying keep the texting simple and blah fucking blah, but honestly dude, half those guys are full of shit. Sexuality is in the mind. Get in their. Fuck with it.

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I look young for my age too, I can usually pull off 17 or 18. 1-10 questions is something I've never actually done.....i do a lot of sexual banter but it's not that logical through text...but it seems direct and definitely something I'm kind of thinking why I didn't do it sooner.

Regardless of a girl's reply though...usually I'll have sex by day 2 and 3 regardless, but I think you use this as a serious gauge rather than wasting time. I love not wasting time...as we know that is a huge asset.

Hey

So i text her using the text opener you guys gave me and then asked her why she gave me my number after she said she doesnt give out much because all these 'hood' boys always ask me. Then i never got a reply and its been nearly two days. btw she hasnt got any credit so i using her friends phone...

Cheers

Strauss

sex addict is right. i screwed up a great lead and got flaked on last weekend because i did not create enough attraction threw text. always do some stimulation through text. better yet, if she has bbm or what's app, chatting works a lot better.

i did not have the language skills necessary to get a close. just texted 2 texts and said we should hang out. if it was all in english, i would not have done that.

yes, stimulate her fantasy a bit, build some rapport, common ground, make her want to meet you.