Hi guys,

Just a little update..

I do believe it's Gambler from Puatraining.

Look - puatraining . com/the-rules-of-seduction/

It sounds like an AFC to PUA type story so it shouldn't be too revealing and hopefully will just be following the guys journey, like Seduction School with Juggler.

I think it's just going to be a show to plug his new product (Which, by the way I have only seen bad reviews of) This also means they will hopefully only focus on his method and not go into too much detail on MM.

So it's not all bad I mean, Seduction School (Which aired a couple of years ago I think) Was like an hour long and didn't expose anything and hasn't really affected the UK game at all.

The only bad news is it does mention there will be a repeat on More4 and they also have a part where they explain how things are done "state-side", and it mentions peacocking.

Does anybody know where I can download this programme? (Torrent? Rapidshare?) I tried using Channel 4's On Demand service but its absolute rubbish. Primarily as it doesnt play for me despite doing all their "fixes"

Anyway back on topic. Question/Point for "753951"

I haven't seen negative reviews of their products. So if you could stick some links up that would be interesting to read for balance's sake.

I would agree that PUATraining are certainly in the media spotlight right now. Gambler has written a book. Appeared on GMTV. They even advertise a "Platinum Club" (for wealthy guys) which personally Im not sure about. Sounds a little bit like a jolly for the company on someone elses money. Maybe Im wrong. However, I've seen them in the field. And they don't just talk the walk. And I feel I got something out of the bootcamp I did with them.

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I wouldn't worry about it much.

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Im not worried about mention of The Game (the book) and/or The VH1 show as i have routines for dealing with being confronted on either...

However if i got shot down on and opener or during a set because they knew what i was doing id so be pissed. Well, 25 mins isnt that long tho, they will prob just spin it as the guy being a sleeze ball and make quick mention of everything in a nutshell...

BTW i hate their description of it, why the hell does every AFC dude and every angry feminist gotta make us out to be scum, as if wanting to be a better and more desirable person is wrong...

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"Be the same, only better."

Funnily enough i watched the programme and that is what has bought me here, well actually google did but it raised my awareness off PUA put it that way.

I dont think it gave away shit from what i've found out from reading this forum and over the past 5 days, it just showed what could be done by those who had taken the time to master the art.

It was also on at 7:35 on a friday night, most girls that will be going out for you to approach would have been putting their makeup or deciding what pair of shoes to wear to go out at this point!

Would like to know who the guy was in it tho, supposedly the best PUA in the uk, showed his 1 min k-close video on the net somewhere but i cant find it, was based in leicester square tho if that helps.

I saw it - which was why I came and found this forum! It didn't seem particularly well made, and was short, so I don't think it'll affect performance!

It's on Channel Four On Demand - it worked ok for me. It'll be there for the next month.

I dont think it will be too much of problem, Seeing that the last 2 posts are here because they seen the programme aint a good sign.
It think its word of mouth that will kill it, if people start talking about it to there mates then thats where the problems will come. So if you are new to this dont telling all your mates else it will only back fire on you in the future. Most will c by google Plus alot of people aint got the internet, well most people i know, but i do live on a council estate in the midlands.

This gambler guy deffinatly aint the best pick up artist in the uk, bollocks, im not saying he aint good, he's just the most well known, well known only because he's got the wealth & the know-how to set up his buisness. Just wants money and fame. There's this other guy 'The modern man' what a load of fucking shite, he's just seen this stuff, copied it & now he's trying 2 cash in. We dont need these kind of fakes, need people that really know their stuff, its these type of people that are gona fuck it up 2.

I think it was AFC adam that was touted as the best in the uk, that gambler guy wasnt actually in it, just his company which has banners all over this forum unless im mistaken.

I wouldn't sweat about this. It might raise gaming profile by about 1%. Luckily most people aren't that interested and it's already pretty well known. The whole "let me get a female opinion on something" and all the classics from Style and Mystery have to be put in the attic and only taken out and given to grandchildren. A few girls will have heard them now.

What they won't know or be at all bothered by, is if a cool guy who is funny and interesting and doesn't creep them out is talking to them, then they are being gamed. Remember, guys have always chatted up women and the ones that are good at it will always have more success. Thats all the game really is.

BTW - I just downloaded it from some newservers. It should be on the newsservers for a week or two if you want it. It's the best way to donwload shit anyway.

I saw the 1st half of this programme, right upto where the one guy used an opinion opener "Er me and my friend are going to watch chuck n Larry, what flavour ice cream would you recommend to acoompany the movie" ??? Or it was something like that. I left to go to the Casino for my Friday night poker game.

The programme also led to me winding up in here, although I had previously read DD's DYD a few times for a good couple of weeks.

Just found it on Virgin (telewest) replay time lol.

Edit. Watched, very basic lol

I've seen it now. If anyone wants a download or streaming link PM.

As ever, made anybody aspiring to get into PUA/Game as a bit weird.

"I am the Future" was made out to be a loser. To be fair he seems addicted to PU Which is not entirely sensible. PU should enhance your life not IMO become it. Liked his Tattoo though "Bitches aint Shit" which is actually the attitude most guys should have. Bitches aint worth anything. You should always find nice/naughty girls.

"AFCAdam" came across OK. But the show made out he was a mysogonist (sp?) Not sure he should be gaming girls so obviously when with a GF. His website Attraction Explianed is actually quite good. Also by showing him painting model figures they are saying hes still lonely despite lots of female attention. Then of course the kicker about his separation from his Mother (the director couldnt of made his feelings more obvious if hed flashed "This guy requires a surrogate Mother figure!" across the screen

"PUATraining" Gambler was there but said nothing, Matt H also said nothing bar "project your voice" Mainly it was Beckster and Kezia. The "3 things routine" is one we were given on our Bootcamp. And I think it captured the blokes enthusiasm to do PU and also to help AFC's.

The guy Ian wasnt exactly chosen at random. He was offered the course for free if he agreed to be filmed. However, he fell into the sterotype afterwards of being a bit of a bastard. Sure he had the balls to approach, (Wanted or Needed, Attracted or Desired was another Bootcamp routine) but he was EXACTLY what the Programme makers wanted. And its no mistake the joke about rohipnol (sp?) was left in to exagerate their agenda.

Overall, Ive read a few reviews of ther show on other sites and almost all of them play to the TV makers aim, to denegrate PU, which is good in away that it keeps it more low key. But bad in the way that it doesnt address the misconception that all PUA's see women as disposable pleasures.

As ever the phrase was "Tricks and routines" Its not tricking the Girl really. Its more an Internal thing. Tricking yourself into becoming a better person. One that is more adept socially and in situations with the fairer sex. I think the programme wont advance PUA in the public's eyes at all. Far better for painting a favourable view was "Seduction School" from a few years back with Johnny and Wayne Elise. That was one of my first exposures to this information.

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Why do people get worked up when PUA stuff gets into the media?

Whether it's a book, article in the press, or TV everyone starts flapping.

If your game's tight you've got nothing to worry about guys. Seriously. I don't see anyone taking Tony Hawks crown since he sold millions of games, there's yet to be another Bruce Lee since all the Hong Kong movies sold millions in the 70's, and I still can't cook for shit no matter how much Gordon Ramsey I watch.

And lets face it, all the women we should be sarging are NOT at home watching TV on a friday night, or do you think they made a special effort to stay in to watch a programme about guys looking for dating tips? Now if one of the cast of Hollyoaks started hanging out with Ross Jeffries, now that would be serious exposure - but even then nobody really cares. Most people don't even believe PUA stuff works, let alone pays any attention to it. Lets face it, if it was taken seriously it wouldn't have got the crap effort Channel 4 put into it! It may as well have been a documentary about train spotters or people who play Dungeons and Dragons!

Stop flapping guys, worst thing happens is a girl notices you're trying to run game on her. Have a laugh and move on. She'll have forgotten you by morning.

Oh, and UK PUA should check out my next event in Manchester - Inner Game Workshop. Special offer to members of this forum! (Sounds like a couple of newbies could use what I've got!)

manchester-inner-game-workshop-vt12838.html

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RR, I was born in croydon!

anyways... Style is doing an interview with BBC radio 1xtra in the next fortnight, and i imagine that wont be the only one, should be interesting.

Myself, I'm trying to distance myself from canned material as much as possible right now as PU is gaining shit hot coverage over here

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just make up your own canned shit don;t borrow from famous pu a's like mystery and you should be o.k.

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