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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:49 pm 
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PROBLEMS: same opener. all my sets ended up with hired guns so it was too safe. I need to start opening moving targets and still need to kill my aa.
I've been doing the same thing, hired guns ARE too safe. I've also been thinking that going out with two or three openers is much better than one, as you practice more openers (for different situations) creating a better foundation.

Try to think of some openers that you can use for women around the mall or outside.

"Hey, quick question. Do you know any good clothing stores are here for men?"
-If yes
"Thanks, yeah i'm looking for something casual like a x"

Run with it, make up a few of these. The one above I believe that if you get a yes, you can say "thanks" and eject, or as I wrote you can add it something after the thanks, "I'm looking for this..." or ask another question keep the conversation going.

Anyway keep up the good work mate!

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:40 pm 
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DAY 7

I go to a mall around 2 pm. M AA gets the best of me again but I open 5 stationary HBS with

do you have the time?
can you help me find the food court?

I always am so excited to go out and sarge but once you walk in those mall doors AA hits me like a brick and everything seems so fast and overwhelming. I'm considering going to my wing's hometown in a different state and sarge there to desensitize myself at a place i have no attachment to what so ever.

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Hi Brotein

I am Allan and I am 21. I am pretty much in the same shoes as you. I am currently in a college town. I really like what you are doing and I will be following regularly.

I can totally relate to your hovering issue. It happens to me all the time. To make matter worse, my courses are really demanding right now so I have to be really efficient with my approaching.

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DAY 8 FREE AT LAST

5 SETS TOTAL 1 DIRECT
I get a call from my pua buddy thats out of state now. he said i need to make a promise to myself. a promise not to leave a mall untill you open a girl direct.

the pressure is on...

I wake up have starbucks for breakfast. shower. put on my best clothes. i take another supplement that has caffeine in it and i suppose is also a mood enhancer.

i get in my car. my radio puts on "2 minutes to midnight" by iron maiden. something about that song gets me excited and happy. surges with me with energy. It keeps me positive on the 15 min drive which seems like an eternity to attempt to sarge.

I get out of my car. finally find the steps to get to the first floor. open an older woman that isn't an hb mentioning "its easy to get lost in malls isnt it?"

SET # 1

i approach the entrance of the mall. i see 2 hbs looking in my direction, duno if at me. I almost walk away but i say fuck it, I go up open with "hey do you know where the starbucks is?" they mention probably in the food court (which was right inside). even though it was a stupid question to ask atleast i opened.

I walk up a level. I go into a disney shop

SET #2

i spend a few minutes browsing the sections. i see an hb 7-8 (can't tell because shes wearing all black so i guess ill give her a 7)

me: this may sound really bad..... but i missed mother's day and i need to get her a gift. shes a disney fanatic.

she excitedly helps me and she spends i would say 10 minutes showing me stuff. we go back to the counter because she wants to open the box and show me a snow globe i could get my mother. I say I feel bad shes putting in all this work just as a browser.

we engage in conversations then about disney land , then california, and vacations briefly. I then eject and mention I might be back later to make a final decision.

shoulda n closed.... smiles, laughing, overly helpful

INBETWEEN SETS

talk to a friendly older lady in a suit shop about finding jobs and attire for a good 20 minutes. granted she wasn't a target for me I still found it pleasant to engage in friendly conversation with a bored shopkeeper and make friends. she gave me her card incase i needed help finding a job.

talked to 2 guys in a muscle building store for 10 mins

OBSEVATIONS:

as im walking past i start thinking about what girls do when you lock eyes as you both move in opposite directions or any direction that matter if they notice you atleast.

i stare down an hb in a non threatening way walkin past as a goal. she looks away and cups her hair and pulls it to one side of her neck while scratching it

another one in front of me. probably notices me even though she doesn't have eyes on the back of her head. she takes both hands flips her hair

walk by another paler girl with bright blonde hair. she looks away as well pulls her hair to one side and her cheeck is facing me.

are these coincidences? does anyone understand psychology from just eye contact? I would beleive to be iois but nervousness. I never get smiles i usually get avoidant nervous looks.

SET #3-4

Go into starbucks. I open pretending like its my first time their and need help. the guy and girl in there start giving me options. i buy something. I talk to the lady barista hb 7 rather she opens me.

her: ugg they moved everything around im used to it being here... (points to cups)
me: well hey atleast you have coffee to keep you adapting to situations
forget what we say after

I remember i forgot my blueberry oatbar. I go over turns out the guy forgot to ring it up.

girl ordering something hb 7 there noticing me and how i forgot my order and says oh... sorry and then steps back.

i go no go ahead technically you are ahead of me.

i give the guy my order look for somewhere to lie down my wallet and cup briefly. again the hb notices im looking for a place to put the stuff so she apologizes again and smiles while moving her stuff out of the way.

we end up both getting the same blueberry oatbar and I mention it briefly.

shoulda transitioned or approached her outside. i end up seeing her again out in the mall but do nothing...

SET # 5 FIRST DIRECT EVER

its 3 hours i've now been in the mall. I've been walking around aimlessly. my mind is running out of juice. I feel upset and creepy and like a loser.

I end up taking a break on one of the mall benches. then i notice its 4:50 pm. I'm like shit when does this place close? i look somewhere online and it says 5pm. I'm like fuck I don't want to be a failure. I just tell myself fuck it, I want to leave this mall and I don't want to bitch out of something i promised myself and stayed here hours for...

I'm walking down the first floor of the mall. I see this hb 8 at a distance. shes blonde, has a nice tan, revealing clothes, the very target I would be hoping to nclose on a regular basis. I sack up I walk over. with a mentality of me just wanting to get it done instead of a mentality that I need to do this perfectly or what if something bad happens.

Shes walking in the opposite direction... a moving target. I take a step in front of her.

me: hey can you excuse me a moment (I plant my feet)
her: (stops but doesn't say anything)
me: this is going to seem super random but i was on my way out of the mall and i saw you and im like "damn shes cute" so i had to come say hi. and thats it.

theres a pause for a couple seconds. I blank out and im sure she does to.

then she does something where it looks like she falls back on 1 heel cups her face or something. smiles in an embarrased and suprised way. and says thank you. she looked like she half fainted (but in a positive way)

My dumass completley goes into afc mode and runs out of shit to say from there on out. I'm just so suprised at what i just did. so say something like.

me: ya i just kinda wanted the courage to just do that...uhhhh but i have to get going... have a good day! (and i start walking off)

she didn't start walking away untill i did so technically i went up, flirted with her and then i rejected her by leaving rofl.

as im walking slowly she walks away slowly head turned towards me though, still smiling, and saying something again like oh thank you, thats so nice! and i wave.

turns out the mall closes at 9pm tonight not 5pm ....

WHAI I FEEL?

I feel like a curse has been lifted. I feel like I have more life. I feel like... crying almost as girly as that sounds. I can't beleive. I just went up to a hot girl, expressed myself with no indirect shield, and she reacted positivley. i might look back on this day and say it was one of the best of my life.

Even though I did not transition I busted the myth and the limit. Girls like being approach. Girls like honest approaches. Girls like to be hit on almost anywhere. Gaming girls in daytime does not make you creepy unless you make it creepy.

I know the journey has just begun but i see the light at the end of the tunnel. I see that life does not give to those that wait so you must grab it yourself. Biologically men are put onto this planet to pickup women whether it be through social circles, money, night clubs, or daytime approaches. every guy wants to do it. none want to admit to doing it.

Women are biologically programmed to be receptive to any honest guy of value that approaches them. under any situation.

If Jennifer lopez (at a loss for names of hot actors) walked in and tried to talk to you on a dark alley in the most random place. I would feel inclined to still be receptive to her.

now i realize its the same for girls. as long as you beleive in yourself and that you have worth she always is in the right situation, mood, and time to talk to you.

i might make a post more in depth about aa but ill end it here.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS: first direct opener that had a good reaction, 2 good indirect approaches, very social with everyone in the various shops spent an hour total talking to random people. good vibes not caring about my surroundings.

FAULTS: i need to transition. this is another day where i let 2 fish off the hook. i need to go back in and close disney shop girl and my next direct approach i have to keep it going. Also i lingered around too much... i might take a break from that mall hahaha.

GOALS: 2 direct approachesn next time and try to take it further.

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DAY 9

4 sets; 3 direct, 1 indirect, 1 number close

went to a different mall.

SET #1 Warmup Set

2 Hbs walking torwards me as i exit the food court


Me: hey excuse me for one moment. (plant feet) (they stop)
Me: I just wanted to say that you look absolutley gorgeous (also gesturing with my hands)
HBS: (not sure what they do but its positive) oh thank you! (they smile, blush, get all happy)
Me: have a good day (eject)

SET #2

see an hb working a hat store alone. I walk in.

Me: hey you look pretty bored
her: ya i am
me: well i actually came in here because i thought you were cute and wanted to talk
her: oh wow ok (smiles)
me: so is it always pretty dead around this time?
her: ya it is thats why im always bored around now
I can't remember really the whole conversation
we go from talking about her work > college > she wants to be a vet > she did dancing

me: so hey i need to get back to meet my friend you should give me your number.
her: oh thank you but i have a boy friend.
me: oh thats fine respect to that.
her: but thanks for coming in. you definantly made my day! (smiles)

Set 3

girl at sunglass hut opens me. I actually am interested in sunglasses so i talk to her for about 20 mins.

transition between sunglasses, school, going out to bars, i make her laugh a bit. something weird happens tho

me: alright so i want these 2 sunglasses but you know what would make the deal better? the 2 glasses and your number.
her: I'm not that easy i can't get you a better deal than that (pretty sure she was talking about the glasses and not me asking for the number. i actually think she didn't notice the last part of my statement and just thought i wanted a lower prices on glasses.
me: uhhh ok (transition to something else)

get my glasses and eject. overall good interaction when i tried to n close it was kinda weird but she could just be really add.

SET #4

walk past a stall with an hb 8 sitting doing her makeup.

I'm like fuck it. turn around walk right up to her.

me: hi you look really bored.
her: oh yea i am.
me: i saw you and thought you were gorgeous so i wanted to say hi.
her: oh thank you (smile)
me: i extend hand introduce names
me: so how long have you been here
her: 3 months
me: how do you like it?
her: its kinda boring actually
me: do you wish you worked at some other store here like at a clothing place?
her: i'm not really sure i just needed a job.
me: (oh fuck i'm running out of shit to say and this is interview mode style not good)
me: (I'm not sure what i exactly say but i mention how i'm struggling to come up with things to say and am at a low energy level and could use a coffee or something)
she: ha ya im really tired too.
me: I had teriaki chicken at the food court have you been to the x resteraunt?
her: no ive never been to that one i just go to panda express
me: ya i would figure people would go to panda if they didn't know how this one was but trust me you should try it.
me: you look like you go to college, look similar in age to me
her: ya im 19, i went to x college untill i had my kid but im going to continue again next year.
me: oh cool. so uhh what do you do for fun?
her: i am a dancer.
me: ah i could tell from your figure that you could be a dancer just wasn't sure.
her: ya its just been more difficult since i had my baby
me: oh really well good for you
me: well i have to get going but i should get your number and i'll text you later. if you are interested thats great if not you won't hear from me again.
her: ok (smiles)
me: alright good to see you (eject)

opened a very hot girl, got a little rough when i ran out of shit to talk about but instead of having the akward silences i just talked about it by pointing it out and making fun of it which i figured was better, atleast i soldiered on and went for the close.

i expect a flake on this one as i followed up with a text an hour later but no response. Its fine though because turns out (thanks to facebook) she does infact have a kid and looks like shes in some kind of relationship with the father. hot girl but not my cup of tea.

SELF EVALUATION

PROS: opened multiple direct sets, made girls smile, all interactions were positive. got my first number close.

CONS: need stronger transitions and qualification. I need to be a little more confident in the number close. but overall solid performance but not enough to kill a flake.[/b]

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:03 am 
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OPERATION CALIFORNIA

took a couple days to meet my friend that sarges in cali. thought it would be a good opportunity to practice in an environment i do not live in not because I would gain a rep for myself but to ease my brain from thinking that and using it as an excuse.

I've already been here for a couple days and tommorow is my last day but my first time writing on it. I'd say ive approached total 30 sets? have not really counted. I wanted to do 100 but these 30 felt really heavy just starting out.

going to do my best to summarize these days, what i learned, and how i learned it.

DAY 10 MALL

start by opening indirect in some stores for my gf needs a gift opener. I feel weird now using it as i like the honest direct approach.. but my "coach" tells me that a pua has to be adaptable to any situation.

open direct to a hollister employee walking out

me: hey i was just on my way out but just wanted to say you look incredibly cute. hi my name is brotein

interaction goes well. iois with hair flips, smile, eye contact. mentions shes not too busy. i number close while a customer waits on her haha.

i feel i needed to qualify her more because while we did banter and she gave me iois. a solid connection was not formed and later found the number to be a flake.

lesson 1 (these lessons i learned in my "private bootcamp" in cali)

a girl, even if you generate mad attraction is not likley to respond well to your phone texts or calls unless you find out about her, commonalities, unique things that seperate your value for her from her looks.

open a girl walking by from behind.

me: hi excuse me, i just wanted to say you looked incredibly cute wanted to say hi

i get a good reaction. but i seriously fumble my words on what to talk about. i opened like a champ but transitioned like a retard. i talked about her work and searched for words and hovered around the same sentence forever. she finally says look i like your approach and your cute but i have a boyfriend and have to go sorry. and bolts off.

lesson 2 have a couple go to lines after the opener. good one is what are you doing at x today? if she works there so do you get bored at work often? or what do you like to do inbetween breaks? and transition into qualification after light banter for 1-2 minutes.

lesson 3 don't approach from behind. you won't always get a bad response but shows a much more solid approach if she sees you first. if you have to run to catch her do it. just dont go from behind.

last set of the day - seated in food court

my sarge friend and coach is great. he finally gets me to open a seated set in the food court. notices a girl walking and sits at a table. pushes me untill i go up and open her direct while sitting in the seat next to her.

I was terrified of this. i thought... this girl is going to be like. wtf why are you sitting next to me i dont even know you.

me: hi this is going to be super random but i thought you were incredibly cute and just wanted to say hi. (i sit during this sentence) not after or before during.
her: oh thank you!

we exchange names, talk about the book she was reading, fictional books, books in general, colleges, where im from, colleges, bars, parties, running, hollister where she works (haha akward # closed another employee there),

I remember i felt so spot on that I framed/qualified. i'm somone who likes to try new things. are you adventerous?

her: sure!

me: ya i like to go hiking, go to new cities, etc, im also trying a new thing now in getting your number in this fashion. ill text you later you can choose to respond or not thats up to you no pressure at all.

her: im nice and usually say what i'm going to do so ill respond :)

me: great

i transiition and talk about something else for a bit. then i end the interaction and eject. overall the most solid direct day approach ive had up untill that point

she does infact respond to my messages with slight interest. but my weak text game does not get me a day 2. plus she knows im just visiting so its a farfetched situation to say the least.

lesson 4

when you do things like sit down next to the set. don't ask may i sit her. do it while you are talking as if its natural. its less akward that way.

lesson 5

my coach mentions that i should lay back in my seat. he noticed that i was on the edge of my seat and kind of leaning in which i didn't even realize. it would be alot more casual and less imposing if i laid back.

question is a time constrait necessary in this situation?

ugg tired writing ill continue in a bit. these were not all the approaches during the day but others were warm ups, had little signifigance, were not serious rejections.[/b]

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