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So as Neil Strauss would say an opener is simply a way of getting her attention nothing or nothing less. I have used the ex girl-friend opener as well as there is a fight outside. This escelates the conversation for 2-3 minutes. If I happen to use the ex-girl friend one it will be 5-10 minutes, but in short it OPENS the set. At this point I try to throw negs but it seems as if they are not hugely affective in getting there attention.

Now my question is simple. I throw the opener (Ex-girlfriend/dental floss/girl fight) also a neg (Is ur hair real/fake... you got something in ur eyes... w.e) at this point what do i do to escalate things in a club so I can have her attention fully. This is really A3 phase in the mystery method I am concern, do i root another opener like stack jealous girl friend with girl fight... it seems kinda like i am someone who is akwardly talking. I am totally confused of how to isolate after an opener my target from a group or get more rapport. I need a detailed script so I can follow that structure to do my own thing. I dont want ideas but something that works! Many people go on this and free style but i am very serious about using that structure in my game and leaving the canned stuff out, but for now just use the canned stuff so i can fill the rest later!
This is all very oldschool 2005 style game. It's basis is rooted in the idea that by extending the interaction far enough, you buy yourself time to get her to like you so that it's ok to actually show interest in her.

Fact is, you don't have to do any of this crap. You don't need to remember any complicated lines, routines, gambits, NLP patters or "material." You just have to approach with confidence, good body language and eye contact, be physical quickly, and make it clear through your words, or at least through your subcommunication, that you're interested in her.

Your goal is to make your intent clear and escalate as far you can, not to extend the interaction for the sake of it.

Try opening with "hi, I just saw you. You're sexy. Who are you?"

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Hey Ryan pretty cool thread. Had a couple questions for yah that i didn't read so far. One was what percentage of girls that you go direct on in daygame/nightgame actually give you a positive answer from? Also when you go direct do you go direct sexually fromm the start? Or just display that you are directly interested in her. Thanks man and like I said great thread I have learned a lot so far!
I get a positive response from almost 100% of the women I speak to. Even if they're not interested, have a boyfriend or are engaged or married, they usually thank me for the compliment, and often apologise that they're unable to date me because they're about to meet their boyfriend. A charming, confidently delivered compliment will usually brighten any woman's day!

The point about being direct is to be honest about what attracts you to her and what your intent is. If a girl has a really confident walk which I find sexy, then that's what I'll tell her. If she's just cute but looks like a happy, fun person, then that's what I'll say. If she has an amazing ass - then that's what I'll compliment her on. So the sexuality of my compliment varies depending on what it is that I like.

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Hey Ryan pretty cool thread. Had a couple questions for yah that i didn't read so far. One was what percentage of girls that you go direct on in daygame/nightgame actually give you a positive answer from? Also when you go direct do you go direct sexually fromm the start? Or just display that you are directly interested in her. Thanks man and like I said great thread I have learned a lot so far!
I get a positive response from almost 100% of the women I speak to. Even if they're not interested, have a boyfriend or are engaged or married, they usually thank me for the compliment, and often apologise that they're unable to date me because they're about to meet their boyfriend. A charming, confidently delivered compliment will usually brighten any woman's day!

The point about being direct is to be honest about what attracts you to her and what your intent is. If a girl has a really confident walk which I find sexy, then that's what I'll tell her. If she's just cute but looks like a happy, fun person, then that's what I'll say. If she has an amazing ass - then that's what I'll compliment her on. So the sexuality of my compliment varies depending on what it is that I like.

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Let me first apologies for the long thread. But I think detail is of the essence here.

Hello, so there is this HB10 with which I kind of messed it up. Here is the story so you know what happened.

I meat here around November/December as she was just dropped by her boyfriend and we like really clicked. Since she looked good I asked her if she wants to shoot some photos… she agreed to it, so after a week or so we went to do a photo shooting. After the photos we saw each other like a few more times and then me stopped for like 2/3 week because I had my semester finals. At New Years Eve we went to the same party but I didn’t do anything since I was with 3 other girls around HB 8/9, we talked and thing like that but I didn’t do anything direct like taking her some were private to talk or anything like that.

Afterwards we met again on Valentine’s Day since I asked her and another girlfriend of hers if they wanted to celebrate being solo. We talked, we laughed and then the 4 of us, since I was with one more common friend of ours, set up a date for a party. We went to the party even though I still didn’t want anything from her I made some moves since she was the hottest girl in the joint.

After a couple of weeks I went with her alone to a party. She told me that she once got in a fight with a guy in that club and asked me if I would jump in if something like that were to happen. I of course said yes. We talked about some of our passed relationships, more about hers since she knew that I’m more of the player type. At this point I already liked her really much. At the club we had fun, we danced she got a bit drunk, I on the other hand stayed on juice since I don’t usually drink. Then at a moment during the party she came to me, we were like at an inch apart, she looked in to my eyes, she started to breathe slower and take deeper breaths, then she smiled. I on the other hand didn’t want to kiss her because of some morality discussions I had with my best friend, so I just screamed to the fist guy I Knew “hey man, what’s up?” And I think she thought I kind of friend zoned her. On the way home we almost didn’t talk. Afterwards she didn’t respond to my Facebook massages or to my calls.

We met again aprox 3 weeks ago out of coincidence in some pub. She made a compliment on my T-shirt. She dyed her hair red, and she was pulling it off. I told her that it she looked really good like this. She knew that I also wanted to paint my hair red and she offered to paint it for me. Afterwards we talked for 2/3 more times and from there on she is doing the not responding thing again.
So help me out, I really like this girl and I want more than a one nightstand.

If it helps she’s 18 and I’m 19.

If needed, I also know where I could “bump in to her” again.

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Let me first apologies for the long thread. But I think detail is of the essence here.

Hello, so there is this HB10 with which I kind of messed it up. Here is the story so you know what happened.

I meat here around November/December as she was just dropped by her boyfriend and we like really clicked. Since she looked good I asked her if she wants to shoot some photos… she agreed to it, so after a week or so we went to do a photo shooting. After the photos we saw each other like a few more times and then me stopped for like 2/3 week because I had my semester finals. At New Years Eve we went to the same party but I didn’t do anything since I was with 3 other girls around HB 8/9, we talked and thing like that but I didn’t do anything direct like taking her some were private to talk or anything like that.

Afterwards we met again on Valentine’s Day since I asked her and another girlfriend of hers if they wanted to celebrate being solo. We talked, we laughed and then the 4 of us, since I was with one more common friend of ours, set up a date for a party. We went to the party even though I still didn’t want anything from her I made some moves since she was the hottest girl in the joint.

After a couple of weeks I went with her alone to a party. She told me that she once got in a fight with a guy in that club and asked me if I would jump in if something like that were to happen. I of course said yes. We talked about some of our passed relationships, more about hers since she knew that I’m more of the player type. At this point I already liked her really much. At the club we had fun, we danced she got a bit drunk, I on the other hand stayed on juice since I don’t usually drink. Then at a moment during the party she came to me, we were like at an inch apart, she looked in to my eyes, she started to breathe slower and take deeper breaths, then she smiled. I on the other hand didn’t want to kiss her because of some morality discussions I had with my best friend, so I just screamed to the fist guy I Knew “hey man, what’s up?” And I think she thought I kind of friend zoned her. On the way home we almost didn’t talk. Afterwards she didn’t respond to my Facebook massages or to my calls.

We met again aprox 3 weeks ago out of coincidence in some pub. She made a compliment on my T-shirt. She dyed her hair red, and she was pulling it off. I told her that it she looked really good like this. She knew that I also wanted to paint my hair red and she offered to paint it for me. Afterwards we talked for 2/3 more times and from there on she is doing the not responding thing again.
So help me out, I really like this girl and I want more than a one nightstand.

If it helps she’s 18 and I’m 19.

If needed, I also know where I could “bump in to her” again.
She gave you TONS of opportunities to do something and you refused, again and again.

There is nothing wrong with sexually escalating on a woman you find attractive. It's a compliment to her beauty. There is no downside to escalating too quickly - all she'll do if she likes you is make you slow down if anything.

There is a downside to escalating too SLOWLY - that is getting friendzoned. It's likely she probably thinks you don't like her in that way because (i) you've made no effort to get her into a 1:1 situation, and (ii) no effort to touch her in a way that signifies your romantic interest.

You must do BOTH, and you must do them SOON if you want to have a chance at actually dating this girl.

(p.s. however lovely you think she is, she is NOT at 10.)

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Let me first apologies for the long thread.

She gave you TONS of opportunities to do something and you refused, again and again.

There is nothing wrong with sexually escalating on a woman you find attractive. It's a compliment to her beauty. There is no downside to escalating too quickly - all she'll do if she likes you is make you slow down if anything.

There is a downside to escalating too SLOWLY - that is getting friendzoned. It's likely she probably thinks you don't like her in that way because (i) you've made no effort to get her into a 1:1 situation, and (ii) no effort to touch her in a way that signifies your romantic interest.

You must do BOTH, and you must do them SOON if you want to have a chance at actually dating this girl.

(p.s. however lovely you think she is, she is NOT at 10.)
Well the thing is I don't want to come of as an AFC by continuously bugging her.

What i thought of is to just leave her a message with something like: "Is that offer with you painting my hair still available" or something on those lines.

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(p.s. however lovely you think she is, she is NOT at 10.)
You can not know that. Unless you are one of those that ignores scale 1-10 and thinks that scale is actually only 1 to 9.


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I know you play daygame but maybe you could help me with the nightgame?

The point where I fail is getting girl home. I usually do dancefloor game so there is no/or very little verbal communication (maybe that's the problem?).

It goes like this:
Dancing>dancing close to each other>making out/kissing neck/touching her everywhere>I make a statement that I am going home and ask her if she would like to come with me. They always think of some excuses or just say no. Wtf?


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I know you play daygame but maybe you could help me with the nightgame?

The point where I fail is getting girl home. I usually do dancefloor game so there is no/or very little verbal communication (maybe that's the problem?).

It goes like this:
Dancing>dancing close to each other>making out/kissing neck/touching her everywhere>I make a statement that I am going home and ask her if she would like to come with me. They always think of some excuses or just say no. Wtf?
You've definitely got a solid foundation to start off with. You're getting the girls attracted and sweeping them up into an emotional and sexual state so that they're happy enough to kiss you.

That's a great start, unfortunately for you girls will kiss guys in the club that they have no intention of going home with or seeing again.

You have to do just a little bit more work first before you try to extract to give yourself a higher chance of success. You're basically like a salesman who generates great rapport with his customers but then goes for the close too quickly.

1. Do what you're doing until you get that kiss.
2. Take her hand and lead her away from the dancefloor to somewhere isolated where it's easier to talk
3. Exchange some basic info and logistics questions with random flirty teasing and banter. Important logistics - who is she here with, where does she live, does she live with other people, is she driving, does she have alcohol at her place (hopefully you can take care of most of this yourself by having drinks and an easy way back to yours)
4. Do a bit of qualification. Doesn't have to be super comfort stuff like can she cook! Think about it - what kind of characteristics do you want to draw out of her that'll make her more likely to sleep with you? Good ones are - is she spontaneous, adventurous, doesn't care about what others think, etc.
5. Get her mind horny as well as escalating physically. Dirty talk and use sexual qualification to make sure she wants to show you how amazing she can fuck. A classic one is "I think the guy does 90% and the girl can only add 10% of the work to make sex amazing" ;-)
6. Provide any excuse for why you're leaving and going to hers/yours. As simple as for a last drink because you make excellent Martinis, to the sneaky classic "after party"
7. Don't hesitate, don't back down, don't apologize and have a quickfire response to any of her last minute tests "you're just using me" "what's my name" "I don't know you" etc.

Try this out and let me know how it goes!

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I know you play daygame but maybe you could help me with the nightgame?

The point where I fail is getting girl home. I usually do dancefloor game so there is no/or very little verbal communication (maybe that's the problem?).

It goes like this:
Dancing>dancing close to each other>making out/kissing neck/touching her everywhere>I make a statement that I am going home and ask her if she would like to come with me. They always think of some excuses or just say no. Wtf?
You've definitely got a solid foundation to start off with. You're getting the girls attracted and sweeping them up into an emotional and sexual state so that they're happy enough to kiss you.

That's a great start, unfortunately for you girls will kiss guys in the club that they have no intention of going home with or seeing again.

You have to do just a little bit more work first before you try to extract to give yourself a higher chance of success. You're basically like a salesman who generates great rapport with his customers but then goes for the close too quickly.

1. Do what you're doing until you get that kiss.
2. Take her hand and lead her away from the dancefloor to somewhere isolated where it's easier to talk
3. Exchange some basic info and logistics questions with random flirty teasing and banter. Important logistics - who is she here with, where does she live, does she live with other people, is she driving, does she have alcohol at her place (hopefully you can take care of most of this yourself by having drinks and an easy way back to yours)
4. Do a bit of qualification. Doesn't have to be super comfort stuff like can she cook! Think about it - what kind of characteristics do you want to draw out of her that'll make her more likely to sleep with you? Good ones are - is she spontaneous, adventurous, doesn't care about what others think, etc.
5. Get her mind horny as well as escalating physically. Dirty talk and use sexual qualification to make sure she wants to show you how amazing she can fuck. A classic one is "I think the guy does 90% and the girl can only add 10% of the work to make sex amazing" ;-)
6. Provide any excuse for why you're leaving and going to hers/yours. As simple as for a last drink because you make excellent Martinis, to the sneaky classic "after party"
7. Don't hesitate, don't back down, don't apologize and have a quickfire response to any of her last minute tests "you're just using me" "what's my name" "I don't know you" etc.

Try this out and let me know how it goes!
3. sounds like interrogation, so many questions about her place, her friends etc etc
7. What are good responses to all of those questions? Especially the name one.


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Hello mate, Thanks for all the help that you offer.

My question today is :

There is this cute japanese colleague," in just a part time job nothing to worry about", who is very into me, I can notice by her body language, the way she qualifies herself, her investment is very obvious, so I thought it's time to ask her out as she told me she would be free on that particular day, I asked her out to join me on my normal day off making it sound not as a big deal but just hanging out together. I did it through facebook as I don't have her number, she replied 2 days later saying that she didnt check her emails in the last 2 days and said Thank you for asking me but didnt propose any other time in the future.
I noticed she is hanging out with one of our colleagues, but as I said her attraction to me is pretty radiant.

how should I reply to that email of her ? how should I ask her again out ?

Thanks for your help again.

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Hello mate, Thanks for all the help that you offer.

My question today is :

There is this cute japanese colleague," in just a part time job nothing to worry about", who is very into me, I can notice by her body language, the way she qualifies herself, her investment is very obvious, so I thought it's time to ask her out as she told me she would be free on that particular day, I asked her out to join me on my normal day off making it sound not as a big deal but just hanging out together. I did it through facebook as I don't have her number, she replied 2 days later saying that she didnt check her emails in the last 2 days and said Thank you for asking me but didnt propose any other time in the future.
I noticed she is hanging out with one of our colleagues, but as I said her attraction to me is pretty radiant.

how should I reply to that email of her ? how should I ask her again out ?

Thanks for your help again.
Ask her out in person not over facebook.

And when I say "ask," I don't really mean "ask"

Saying "are you free" or "if you're not busy" or "maybe" etc is weak. Women expect men to lead and make the plans. Women won't do this for you (notice she didn't suggest alternate days)

The best words to use which neither ask permission nor are to demanding are "let's" or "how about" or "why don't we" because they're casual but not weak.

So just take her aside away from other colleagues, express interest in seeing her outside of work and offer her two options to choose from.

For example "hey, it would be great to meet up outside of work and do something fun together - why don't we meet at (some bar or whatever) and do (some activity that isn't just "have a drink" e.g. Play pool, get a smoothie, etc). How about Tuesday or Thursday?"

This gives her a forced choice between two options so the date is assumed, it's leading without being pushy, and you're never asking if it's ok you're just saying it.

P.S. dating your co-workers is stupid but go make that mistake and learn from it yourself ;-)

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Awesome man, I ll do my best :) Cheeers.

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I know you play daygame but maybe you could help me with the nightgame?

The point where I fail is getting girl home. I usually do dancefloor game so there is no/or very little verbal communication (maybe that's the problem?).

It goes like this:
Dancing>dancing close to each other>making out/kissing neck/touching her everywhere>I make a statement that I am going home and ask her if she would like to come with me. They always think of some excuses or just say no. Wtf?
You've definitely got a solid foundation to start off with. You're getting the girls attracted and sweeping them up into an emotional and sexual state so that they're happy enough to kiss you.

That's a great start, unfortunately for you girls will kiss guys in the club that they have no intention of going home with or seeing again.

You have to do just a little bit more work first before you try to extract to give yourself a higher chance of success. You're basically like a salesman who generates great rapport with his customers but then goes for the close too quickly.

1. Do what you're doing until you get that kiss.
2. Take her hand and lead her away from the dancefloor to somewhere isolated where it's easier to talk
3. Exchange some basic info and logistics questions with random flirty teasing and banter. Important logistics - who is she here with, where does she live, does she live with other people, is she driving, does she have alcohol at her place (hopefully you can take care of most of this yourself by having drinks and an easy way back to yours)
4. Do a bit of qualification. Doesn't have to be super comfort stuff like can she cook! Think about it - what kind of characteristics do you want to draw out of her that'll make her more likely to sleep with you? Good ones are - is she spontaneous, adventurous, doesn't care about what others think, etc.
5. Get her mind horny as well as escalating physically. Dirty talk and use sexual qualification to make sure she wants to show you how amazing she can fuck. A classic one is "I think the guy does 90% and the girl can only add 10% of the work to make sex amazing" ;-)
6. Provide any excuse for why you're leaving and going to hers/yours. As simple as for a last drink because you make excellent Martinis, to the sneaky classic "after party"
7. Don't hesitate, don't back down, don't apologize and have a quickfire response to any of her last minute tests "you're just using me" "what's my name" "I don't know you" etc.

Try this out and let me know how it goes!
3. sounds like interrogation, so many questions about her place, her friends etc etc
7. What are good responses to all of those questions? Especially the name one.
I didn't say ask all those questions all at once like a list, but those are some important questions to get answers to sooner rather than later so you can HANDLE LOGISTICS EARLY which is crucial.

Learn her fucking name! The best responses are quick, and they don't have to deal with the point, make sense, or anything like that. Sometimes it's best to just ignore them and move on, for example.

Her: "I'm not going back to your place"
You: "It's cool, it's only Tuesday anyway. So what's the deal with your ring?"

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Hello,

I was at a birthday party, and got in a conversation with this hb 9 that i had met with like 2 days before when i last saw the b-girl. The beginning was nice. Since 2 girl that I now from there jumped instantly around where i was seated in order to talk to me, that was in it's self a DHV, and also showed preselection (correct me if i understood it wrong).

I got in the next phase the attention of every one who was around me an started telling stories that had some DHV spikes in them, and also showed some more preselection. Then we changed the location to a club so we could dance and shit.

Every thing was ok for starters. I knew some people from that joint made some photos with them, then made some with the target and the obstacle. The problem is, as i see it, that I told the lets make a photo and that I called the photographer. What's your view on this?

Any way, since a ran out of things to say i then rolled of they pulled me bag put I still didn't now how to continue the conversation so I tolled them that I promised a friend that we'd meet for a bit. I went to a joint where I knew I'd meet my wingman and told them to also come to the same club we where in.

Then I went back, and since they said that it was boring inside i tolled them lets go out for walk. We went out, we talked about guys and girls having sex, and why girls are whores if they have sex with many man and so on...

We then went back, I meat my wing, and since the music was still lame i proposed that we should change locations again. Hence we went to another club, some kind of alternative rock/ dub-step joint. We talked a bit, then we danced, I ended up dancing with the target, because the obstacle went to the bar. As the obstacle came back and didn't want to dance the target told me lets sit down, and i did that... then I realized I fucked up my value so I started thinking about shit and lost my game.

I'd still like to land her, is this still an option, and if yes pleas give me some details as in how I should proceed.

Thank you.

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