Today I texted this chick & by the third one she invited me to go to eat with her and a friend and I did. Now the convo went well with both lots of laughs. I have a few problems though.
1. I can't tell if I've friend zoned it. Only iois I've noticed are we hold solid eye contact and smile at each other.
2. (general game) I didn't know whether to focus on her or her friend during the little date. (friend was a HB6).
3. There was a few little silences but I tried to end them ASAP.
4. Mid game. I feel like I need some things to just hit it off & get the girl attracted. I get all the laughs and smiles, just can't tell about the attraction.

5. Please give me some solid mid game stuff on just keeping the convo going with things that develop attraction.

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It sounds like you are doing everything to plan.. After your little day out ect.. Have you maintained txts with the girl you are txting?
Id say somethin along the lines of ' I had a really good day today, your friend was really funny aswell (make somethin she said up or somethin so she tells her mate + she likes u + gets her approval kind of thing)' then suggest a You and her date.

As for mid game.. once shes talking pik up the key words.. 'last night when we went out, we went to club x which was good then eventually finished the night in club y, we got really drunk and had a excellent night'
Then make a statement then a question about x or y or change the subject or something. im new to this shit myself man. This forum has alot of useful info!

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So when you go out with two girls you have to be aware that they are judging you and that they are going to talk about you afterwards.
Two things you need to watch out for; if you focus all your attention on the target, the other girl will feel left out and and talk you down when you leave.
If you flirt with the friend, the target will be jealous and think that you are a pig.

The trick is to be charming but not flirtatious to both girls, that way they will both like you, still make sure you state your interest in the target so there is no confusion between the girls.

Don't worry about attraction when you are in a group, a lot of girls are a little shy when they are around friends. I think you did well, it is time to ask her out on a 1 on 1 now!

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^Thanks man.
I'm not sure where to go though. I talked a bit about some new movies out and what she wants to see. But I was hoping she would jump in and say "hey let's go watch it together" or something like that. Didn't really get anywhere there.

We haven't really been texting the last 2 days, just not sure if I'm friend zoned or if she's interested.

I'm just trying to test out diff methods and improve my game on her though. I don't really care if she's interested or not. Any diff methods?

Palm reading and stuff like that would be good in this situation. Just remember that the target always goes 1st! Be witty/funny with both but exaggerate it a bit with the target.

Peace...

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Do I just bs stuff with the palm reading? I always thought that I ignore the target..

Try to just sweep her off her feet.

Do you have a car? In that case you should do the cocky thing where you just call or text her and tell her to meet you outside her house at a date and time that you have decided. Then just take her away, go see a movie, take a walk, do something new and original.
Women love when men take charge and this is the best way to make them fall for you.
If you don't have a car it takes a little more planning since you actually have to meet up somewhere together and you can't take as much charge.
I would suggest that you tell her to come with you to the mall or some place because you need a female opinion. Take her with you and have her be your female opinion on pants or a jacket or some shit, you'll be amazed how much fun you can have of just going shopping together, as friends, because this will make her feel more relaxed and secure. Then after the shopping, turn the hanging out in to something more date like, take her to eat, or to a movie or something that's more date related, and PAY! This will definitely make it clear to her that you appreciate her company. Then, after a long successful date together, kiss her as it is time to say good bye! If you have played your game right during the day, there is no way she will refuse you!

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If you have doubts on how to kiss her, try my kissing routine!

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Thank you sly walker your advice is golden. I
Def going to be using all of this. One question though I need some help on hand holding, the kino leading up to it of just getting to it.
Thanks man the kissing technique is solid.

Good question, since I recommend that you don't just grab her hand and walk with her, this can turn out a little awkward sometimes.
The best way is to grab it with purpose.
For example; say that you are walking together in a mall, and you are close to the store that you want to take her to (or whatever), grab her hand in a confident manner and lead her over there, basically avoid the "nervous boy in love" thing where you would try to sneak grab it while walking next to her.
You can play around with it a lot of you take her hand to help her up a step or to lead her some place. Don't pull her with you, just lead her. Eventually it will just become a natural thing where you two become more physical with more hand holding and you can start by holding your arm around her etc. Just remember the kino-escalation basics, two steps forward, one step back. Always take a little back after you have given her some

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No need to end silence. Don't be afraid of it. You are not her circus bear there to dance for her. Silence is actually a great tension builder which sparks attraction. During silence just hold confident & entertained eyecontact with her. She will feel the tension and try to break it, and thus invest into the convo.

During these moments you can also kino-escalate. Grab her hand just to inspect it, go back to eyecontact while keep holding it (if she starts to pull it back though just let her, she doesn't have enough attraction for you yet if she does that).

If she doesn't start talking, just hold eyecontact a short while, smile, and then start talking. Don't break the silence like if it was something dangerous.

Good luck with your further dates

Early hand holding is LTR framing, which you want to avoid.
But if you still want, I remember an old routine: "Hey, I know a great trick. Give me your hand!" Then take her hand.
Pretending to touch her unintentionally while unsecure is tricky. In general, I establish that my actions are no big deal, because in that case potential resistence is no big deal, too.