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I act like Todd where I say and do outrageous shit, I would by no means consider or get considered by most people to be a Bad boy. Maybe being flirtatious is considered a bad boy but I just consider it playful.

The other guy doesn't really show confidence in his shoulders, his head height, or speech patterns, he is needy. That isn't confidence. I don't buy women drinks when I just met them, that doesn't make me a bad boy. My respectful behavior and ethics are what make me a nice guy. Am I generous? Yes but not to some woman I just met, if I'm having a good conversation with a woman and I want a drink yeah sure but not just out of no where.

Again it is all about confidence. You can be a nice guy and do fine, just have confidence.

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My point is.. Nice guys who are with girls, are people who are her girlfriend with a penis.. They aren't sexual at all. When I say that badboys are more attractive then I meant that they are open sexually more than nice guys..

I know plenty of nice guys who never touch girls because they feel that the girl will be mad if they do it. But I see badboys touching the girls everywhere, and the girls likes them for that.

In my opinion, then girls doesn't like nice guys.

I do agree that there are ways of being a nice guy. If we are talking about giving the girl respect tell her shes beautiful and such. Then the badboy style will have that "nice guy style" in him.

But what I mean is that nice guys aren't sexually they're just a girls girlfriend with a penis. Do never get into the friendzone with girls, always be touchy with all. If you get mistanked by being a player. Then your not a true player. I am sure this has been as enlightening for you to read as it has been stimulating for me to type.
LOL Enlightening for me to read? Are you kidding? Why would I listen to you? I've read more about courtship, attraction, and pick up as well as more experience, then some kid who has to plagiarize to look as though he knows shit. Stop spreading bad info dude. You are coming on here with little experience, after reading a couple things around the internet and talking as if you know something. YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. When someone with more experience and knowledge pops over to teach you something listen up. A wise man learns from his own mistakes a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others.

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Confidence and escalation skills is all you need to get laid(though other tools help you with more regularity). If you are a nice guy but a sexual guy you can still work it out I promise.
How do you miss that?

Read my last post to Skills, it helps illustrate my point further.

Unless you consider the Nice Guy anyone who doesn't make sexual advance, in which case you consider 90% of men nice guys then, I guess I could see your point. I am considered a nice guy by all my female friend's opinions and I am a very sexual guy, there is tons of sexual tension between me and some of my female friends. In fact even though I'm a nice guy all my female friends expect me to get tons of women, how do you explain that?

GETTING WOMEN HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CONFIDENCE AND YOU PROVING YOURSELF AS A SEXUAL MATE.
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Here is a video comparing behaviors:

I can't imaginge how A will get in her pants. But I can imaginge easily how C would. And as I mentioned before, my whole philosophy is about to get laid... I wouldn't care if the girl like me or not, as long as I can get in her pants I won't give a shit.

If I didn't had to learn anything more, I wouldn't be here, thats my state for now. But your actually thinking that your a mPUA when you talk to me, I know my age is very low, Its just now I have offically started partying in real clubs. But I want to tell you that when I was younger, I had the "nice guy" role, and it didn't get me anywhere. It actually ruined me totally, because now I can't pickup my friends, if I do, it will cause me many problems.

It wasen't the point to make a discussion with me, I do believe that you have game, and some sort of intellegence. But I don't think that you heard me say that "Nice guys who aren't sexual" won't get you anywhere. My philosophy is way different than some people from this forum. If you ever heard of Stelar's philosophy, I can already assure you that mine is close to him. I wouldn't have mentioned all this if we weren't talking about the "nice/bad guy role"

You can be a badboy, but still give respect to the girls. Thats what I call a good style to have.

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My point is.. Nice guys who are with girls, are people who are her girlfriend with a penis.. They aren't sexual at all. When I say that badboys are more attractive then I meant that they are open sexually more than nice guys..

I know plenty of nice guys who never touch girls because they feel that the girl will be mad if they do it. But I see badboys touching the girls everywhere, and the girls likes them for that.

In my opinion, then girls doesn't like nice guys.

I do agree that there are ways of being a nice guy. If we are talking about giving the girl respect tell her shes beautiful and such. Then the badboy style will have that "nice guy style" in him.

But what I mean is that nice guys aren't sexually they're just a girls girlfriend with a penis. Do never get into the friendzone with girls, always be touchy with all. If you get mistanked by being a player. Then your not a true player. I am sure this has been as enlightening for you to read as it has been stimulating for me to type.
LOL Enlightening for me to read? Are you kidding? Why would I listen to you? I've read more about courtship, attraction, and pick up as well as more experience, then some kid who has to plagiarize to look as though he knows shit. Stop spreading bad info dude. You are coming on here with little experience, after reading a couple things around the internet and talking as if you know something. YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. When someone with more experience and knowledge pops over to teach you something listen up. A wise man learns from his own mistakes a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others.

You seem to keep missing what I say:
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Confidence and escalation skills is all you need to get laid(though other tools help you with more regularity). If you are a nice guy but a sexual guy you can still work it out I promise.
How do you miss that?

Read my last post to Skills, it helps illustrate my point further.

Unless you consider the Nice Guy anyone who doesn't make sexual advance, in which case you consider 90% of men nice guys then, I guess I could see your point. I am considered a nice guy by all my female friend's opinions and I am a very sexual guy, there is tons of sexual tension between me and some of my female friends. In fact even though I'm a nice guy all my female friends expect me to get tons of women, how do you explain that?

GETTING WOMEN HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CONFIDENCE AND YOU PROVING YOURSELF AS A SEXUAL MATE.
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Here is a video comparing behaviors:

I can't imaginge how A will get in her pants. But I can imaginge easily how C would. And as I mentioned before, my whole philosophy is about to get laid... I wouldn't care if the girl like me or not, as long as I can get in her pants I won't give a shit.

If I didn't had to learn anything more, I wouldn't be here, thats my state for now. But your actually thinking that your a mPUA when you talk to me, I know my age is very low, Its just now I have offically started partying in real clubs. But I want to tell you that when I was younger, I had the "nice guy" role, and it didn't get me anywhere. It actually ruined me totally, because now I can't pickup my friends, if I do, it will cause me many problems.

It wasen't the point to make a discussion with me, I do believe that you have game, and some sort of intellegence. But I don't think that you heard me say that "Nice guys who aren't sexual" won't get you anywhere. My philosophy is way different than some people from this forum. If you ever heard of Stelar's philosophy, I can already assure you that mine is close to him. I wouldn't have mentioned all this if we weren't talking about the "nice/bad guy role"

You can be a badboy, but still give respect to the girls. Thats what I call a good style to have.

@Skills360

Exatcly, who do you prefer best?

Neither, be you, dude nice guy or bad boy is irrelevant, just do not engage in unattractive behaviors... Now if i have to fake one or the other, i would fake the bad boy..

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Neither, be you, dude nice guy or bad boy is irrelevant, just do not engage in unattractive behaviors... Now if i have to fake one or the other, i would fake the bad boy..
Why does the word "change" exist, everywher I read a book? Be your self, with a "badboy" inside. Skills, I know that you like Stelar, by that means, you have to agree with me.

Nice guys = Not sexual
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I act like Todd where I say and do outrageous shit, I would by no means consider or get considered by most people to be a Bad boy. Maybe being flirtatious is considered a bad boy but I just consider it playful.

The other guy doesn't really show confidence in his shoulders, his head height, or speech patterns, he is needy. That isn't confidence. I don't buy women drinks when I just met them, that doesn't make me a bad boy. My respectful behavior and ethics are what make me a nice guy. Am I generous? Yes but not to some woman I just met, if I'm having a good conversation with a woman and I want a drink yeah sure but not just out of no where.

Again it is all about confidence. You can be a nice guy and do fine, just have confidence.

Here is a video comparing behaviors:


There is so much bad with that video as "science" i do not know where to start... First, they are actors, second the sample women is horrible, 2 18 year olds one 22, those girls do not even wipe right yet... 3rd, a bad boy would not be caught on dead in a "picnic type of dating situation", 4 th women have a group theory mentality, in other words the opinion of one woman can heavily influence other woman...5th the 1 girl like the bad boy, 2 felt uncomfortable(this is actually what is expected when there is sexual tension), remember most bad boys are not looking for a gf, they are looking to get laid...Sorry but that video is pretty weak, with all due respect...

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There is so much bad with that video as "science" i do not know where to start... First, they are actors, second the sample women is horrible, 2 18 year olds one 22, those girls do not even wipe right yet... 3rd, a bad boy would not be caught on dead in a "picnic type of dating situation", 4 th women have a group theory mentality, in other words the opinion of one woman can heavily influence other woman...5th the 1 girl like the bad boy, 2 felt uncomfortable(this is actually what is expected when there is sexual tension), remember most bad boys are not looking for a gf, they are looking to get laid...Sorry but that video is pretty weak, with all due respect...
Golden Words... Exatcly what I meant. A badboy dating?? thats a no go. Pm'ed you


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Neither, be you, dude nice guy or bad boy is irrelevant, just do not engage in unattractive behaviors... Now if i have to fake one or the other, i would fake the bad boy..
Why does the word "change" exist, everywher I read a book? Be your self, with a "badboy" inside. Skills, I know that you like Stelar, by that means, you have to agree with me.

Nice guys = Not sexual
Bad boys = Sexual

i do not like or dislike stelar... I do not understand the bad vs nice, that is ridiculous, just be your best you, and do not engage in UNATTRACTIVE BEHAVIORS of nice guys or bad boys, for example bad boy can be cheap(unattractive)i just posted a link, about how women feel here it is again:


http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/ ... guys.shtml

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Good post mann it kind of opened my eyes a little bit


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My point wasn't the science aspect, my point was each type of guy gets A Girl with confidence. You Were trying to use the weakest no confidence guy with your video. It was a poor comparison. Every style works with confidence, but it all depends on the girl at the moment. Yes a woman will prefer different guys in different moods. This is why men that are very good with women also happen to be social chameleons . I have already repeatedly ly mentioned having escalating skills, they are very important.

I am not sure that a bad boy can do any better without knowing how to escalate, how could he? Why would the nice guy be any different?

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My point wasn't the science aspect, my point was each type of guy gets A Girl with confidence. You Were trying to use the weakest no confidence guy with your video. It was a poor comparison. Every style works with confidence, but it all depends on the girl at the moment. Yes a woman will prefer different guys in different moods. This is why men that are very good with women also happen to be social chameleons . I have already repeatedly ly mentioned having escalating skills, they are very important.

I am not sure that a bad boy can do any better without knowing how to escalate, how could he? Why would the nice guy be any different?
Because the nice guy has no balls to take the next step "SEX" thats how nice guys are described my friend. I was the nice guy, until I started to flirt with every girl I saw.


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I can't imaginge how A will get in her pants. But I can imaginge easily how C would. And as I mentioned before, my whole philosophy is about to get laid... I wouldn't care if the girl like me or not, as long as I can get in her pants I won't give a shit.

My philosophy is way different than some people from this forum. If you ever heard of Stelar's philosophy, I can already assure you that mine is close to him.
Stelar's philosophy was that women were sub-human whose only purpose in existence is to fuck him. Not really a healthy way to view women, or people for that matter.

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Because the nice guy has no balls to take the next step "SEX" thats how nice guys are described my friend. I was the nice guy, until I started to flirt with every girl I saw.
Nice guys don't flirt? LOL! I'm considered a nice guy and was referred to as "the world's biggest flirt". So...... Yeah a nice guy is exactly this. NICE GUY. You are giving him all these other characteristics such as:

No confidence
Needy^
No Escalation Skills
Ball-less

Now let me go over what a nice guy entails, being nice. LOL WOW complicated 1 word description. Now lets go over what I said since you are just a little bit slow with this whole learning process(sorry but I figure you might learn something if I'm rude). What a guy needs to get laid:

Confidence
Escalation Skills

Can you be nice along with confidence and escalation skills? YES! DING! DING! DING! Hopefully you are picking up this now finally. Now lets go over some other things I talked about:

-Most men aren't good with women.(TRUTH)
-The same percentage of nice guys is bad with women as every other kind of guy whether it's bad boy, wealthy guy, poor guy, rich guy, dumb guy, smart guy, etc. which is MOST GUYS aren't good with women. (The point holds validity though it may not be correct.)
-Anybody who has no escalation skills will have very little success with women. (TRUTH)
-Nice Guys Flirt. (TRUTH)
-Nice Guys Get Laid. (TRUTH)

Now I'm done with this argument, and I do apologize for my rudeness. I am done arguing with you, if you don't open yourself up to the truth it will never be true for you. Our mind is our reality and your mind is refusing the reality we live in.

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My point wasn't the science aspect, my point was each type of guy gets A Girl with confidence. You Were trying to use the weakest no confidence guy with your video. It was a poor comparison. Every style works with confidence, but it all depends on the girl at the moment. Yes a woman will prefer different guys in different moods. This is why men that are very good with women also happen to be social chameleons . I have already repeatedly ly mentioned having escalating skills, they are very important.

I am not sure that a bad boy can do any better without knowing how to escalate, how could he? Why would the nice guy be any different?


Got you! this is right ^.

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This was excellent. Sometimes we just forget the basics and believe that the routines, process and game is what makes us attractive. But it goes soo much deeper.

Thank you for this remainder. Well written.


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Because the nice guy has no balls to take the next step "SEX" thats how nice guys are described my friend. I was the nice guy, until I started to flirt with every girl I saw.
Nice guys don't flirt? LOL! I'm considered a nice guy and was referred to as "the world's biggest flirt". So...... Yeah a nice guy is exactly this. NICE GUY. You are giving him all these other characteristics such as:

No confidence
Needy^
No Escalation Skills
Ball-less

Now let me go over what a nice guy entails, being nice. LOL WOW complicated 1 word description. Now lets go over what I said since you are just a little bit slow with this whole learning process(sorry but I figure you might learn something if I'm rude). What a guy needs to get laid:

Confidence
Escalation Skills

Can you be nice along with confidence and escalation skills? YES! DING! DING! DING! Hopefully you are picking up this now finally. Now lets go over some other things I talked about:

-Most men aren't good with women.(TRUTH)
-The same percentage of nice guys is bad with women as every other kind of guy whether it's bad boy, wealthy guy, poor guy, rich guy, dumb guy, smart guy, etc. which is MOST GUYS aren't good with women. (The point holds validity though it may not be correct.)
-Anybody who has no escalation skills will have very little success with women. (TRUTH)
-Nice Guys Flirt. (TRUTH)
-Nice Guys Get Laid. (TRUTH)

Now I'm done with this argument, and I do apologize for my rudeness. I am done arguing with you, if you don't open yourself up to the truth it will never be true for you. Our mind is our reality and your mind is refusing the reality we live in.

Good luck in all your pick up endeavors.
Since I have read the book "Badboy Lifestyle" where the nice guy got explaimed how he really is, I find your repliement rude. I think that your not good at describing your self, because when I look at your post I can't see that your a nice guy. If you flirt with a girl and she gets disgusted by you, how do you think her reaction would be? She will take you as a pervert guy "BADBOY"

I have a lot of sources, I have been reading tons of materiale explaiming me how the nice guy is. And he is not that type of guy who touches girls. Nice guys are just some guys who talks nice, and acting nice "Needy" They can maybe touch girls, but not so much as the badboy does, because a badboy would just grap her, if she hates him for that, he would just find another girl.. Thats how it is..

We can argue, and have a dicussion without being rude to each other, I think and do know that you have a lot of experience in this. But you have to admit that your also not only the "nice guy"


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