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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:17 am 
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I have a girlfriend of a little over two years. She is awesome in every way. We are early 20s. The thing is, we have sex like once a week and she refuses to get into the best shape she can. I feel attracted to her once we get going, but I don't have much motivation for sex with her.

I work with a ton of hot women. And I have social proof with so many different women there it isn't even funny. Cougars, I've gotten two numbers, but they have kids and it would never strike me as worth cheating for.

HOWEVER, there is a young 19 year old who is smokin, who I think would give me her number. She has asked me twice in a row if I had a girlfriend, how old I was, and has made reference to previous conversations that were weeks before. She is curious about me, and flirtatious.

And I am incredibly attracted to her.

I have never cheated in my life and I feel like I just want to screw her, because of the challenge of things and her physical appearance.

What the hell should I do?


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:41 am 
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do you love your girlfriend? love her as in if you lost her it would probably take you one of two years to forget her and be back on your legs? then don't.

otherwise, go for it. you're young enough that most probably you won't end up marrying this girl no matter what.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:01 am 
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I just don't get this fucking male ego to cheat. Why are you WITH a girl if you're going to cheat? Either man the fuck up and leave her and free yourself from her attachment, and go for the 19 year old and realize it may not happen : or don't and man the fuck up.

Seriously...cheating is just a chode move for someone who wants pussy on the side (even though you claim you're not getting enough..you're still not willing to give that up).

MAN THE FUCK UP.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:13 am 
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You're either a cheater or you're not. You're hitting the two year mark. Is this about sex or something more? If it's about sex, then there's absolutely no reason for you to be a jerk about it and go cheat on your girlfriend just to get laid. With women, there's this little thing called communication. If you're not motivated to have sex with her, chances are she's not motivated to have sex with you. A successful relationship takes 100% on both sides. You can't expect her to keep the passion alive all by herself, you've got to inspire it too. Take her somewhere naughty to buy some toys, do something you've never done before like smash in a parking lot or get a lap nap in the back row of the movies. Reignite the spark.

Understand this if you're thinking about pursuing this 19 year old something at work while staying with your girlfriend. The respectable thing to do is to break things off with your girlfriend. It's pretty fucked up because she can suffer consequences from your actions (STDs). But, if you "don't want to lose her"- have your cake and eat it too type of deal then you have to be able to be the person who can live with what you've done. I know this sounds pretty basic but a lot of people get Buyer's Remorse when they cheat. Wasn't what they expected, guilt, juice wasn't worth the squeeze, however you want to look at it. You say you've never cheated before, I don't recommend cheating because you don't know whether you're THAT guy, if you know what I mean. But, if you really can't keep it in your pants, and you're too chicken to talk to your girlfriend about working on herself and increasing the sex, then go for it- you just have to live with the consequences of losing her if she finds out.

More Tips on the whole sex thing with the girlfriend: You don't want to come out and say "hey babe, I think you're getting fat" Turn it into a game. Say "We should start going to the gym every day. I need you to help keep me accountable, I want to really work on this."


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:16 am 
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Yeah leave her.

Trust me, 19 and you're not attracted to her? It's gonna end anyways.

Get used to breaking hearts early.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:31 am 
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The thing is guys, my girl is 100 percent into the sex. She wants it all the time. We don't have privacy sometimes around our families. Other times I could get it but I don't pursue it.

I am not a D-bag who has done much wrong to women in the past. I have never been in this spot before. But at the same time, I am young and feel the need to have other experiences. At the same time, this girl is awesome in every other way and I DO love her.

As you guys know, it is possible to love a woman yet still want to fuck others, who you do not love.

IN RESPONSE TO CAPTAIN JACK:

The thing is man, you develop a close relationship with a woman then the sexual part later on fades a bit because the challenge isn't there, the sex gets routine, ect....in other words your relationship grows immensely but the sexual aspect fizzles out. Its sort of like the typical married couple.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:34 am 
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The thing is guys, my girl is 100 percent into the sex. She wants it all the time. We don't have privacy sometimes around our families. Other times I could get it but I don't pursue it.

I am not a D-bag who has done much wrong to women in the past. I have never been in this spot before. But at the same time, I am young and feel the need to have other experiences. At the same time, this girl is awesome in every other way and I DO love her.

As you guys know, it is possible to love a woman yet still want to fuck others, who you do not love.
Then do it. You're young, it's the time to have experiences.

You have probably a 50%+ chance of getting caught, so it'll be an interesting experience for you to get caught and have to answer for it. It'll also be an interesting experience balancing two at once and seeing how hard that actually is keeping secrets.

I'm serious, do it, you can only learn from experience.


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Sometimes, you just gotta say "fuck it" and pipe the pussy.
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I just don't get this fucking male ego to cheat. Why are you WITH a girl if you're going to cheat? Either man the fuck up and leave her and free yourself from her attachment, and go for the 19 year old and realize it may not happen : or don't and man the fuck up.

Seriously...cheating is just a chode move for someone who wants pussy on the side (even though you claim you're not getting enough..you're still not willing to give that up).

MAN THE FUCK UP.
While I think it wrong to cheat, the idea that you need to "man up" and either break up or not break up, is fem-centric. This is the type of mentality men incur from female authority, cheating or not cheating has nothing to do with manning up. It might be morally wrong, it might not be good to hurt someone so deeply, but it has nothing to do with masculinity. Labeling it as such, albeit in such an adamant way, is just another white-knight complex rationalized into Alpha Male talk since its popularly conceived that Alpha Males are fearless. Alpha males obey their dick. Case in Point: Bill Clinton. I promise you, he didn't cheat because of the tilt of his male ego or some innate complex, he cheated because he needed to bust a nut and Hillary was getting wrinkly.

The idea that cheating is a chode move is feminism in full metal glory. You only need to think about it for a second, what other ideology could ignore the most basic of instincts (Hot chick, boner, gotta fuck) and shift it into some type of esoteric ego complex and label it as "unmanly?" What other ideology could somehow EMASCULATE the idea of fucking a tight pussy? Someone might argue back, "why not just man up and break up with your girlfriend first?" which misses the entire point. The question is not why not do that - it's why do that? Why leave guaranteed pussy for new pussy when you could have both? Isn't that how Alpha males have lived for 250,000+ years till we were thrust into a monogamous social construct?

To which again someone would reply, "Why hurt her that bad for no reason?" But cmon, no one here really believes in that morality bullshit right? Ask any man who has swallowed the barrel end of female hypergamy if social darwinism gives a fuck about relational equity.

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The thing is guys, my girl is 100 percent into the sex. She wants it all the time. We don't have privacy sometimes around our families. Other times I could get it but I don't pursue it.

I am not a D-bag who has done much wrong to women in the past. I have never been in this spot before. But at the same time, I am young and feel the need to have other experiences. At the same time, this girl is awesome in every other way and I DO love her.

As you guys know, it is possible to love a woman yet still want to fuck others, who you do not love.
Then do it. You're young, it's the time to have experiences.

You have probably a 50%+ chance of getting caught, so it'll be an interesting experience for you to get caught and have to answer for it. It'll also be an interesting experience balancing two at once and seeing how hard that actually is keeping secrets.

I'm serious, do it, you can only learn from experience.
Although I still think it's supppper fucked, I agree. You're saying "I do love her but...." Which means you already made up your mind and you're looking for validation. You can only grow from the experience. If you're going to stay with the girlfriend, as I'm looking out for her best interest (naturally), I'd advise getting your junk checked out after your first romp before you have sex with your girl again. No need to cheat AND give her syphilis.


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here is my experience with cheating.
i have a friend, his name is Ben. now Ben opinion is that im good when it comes to women, so he ask my advice alot. back when i was younger i didn't see the problem with cheating, but i also had never been in a real relationship. so when he came up to me and asked my stance on cheating, i gave the thumbs up. and guess what.. his GF found out, they broke up and he was stained with a "bad rep". now that im wiser i can say cheating is never worth it, in my opinion.. whatever its worth. it most always comes back to bite u in the butt.. also u should think about your GF's feelings how it wouldnt be fair to her, it sucks but its always better to just do the right thing. i cant tell you if that is to dump your GF or not. you have to prioritize your own life. but i do hope u wont ever cheat, its just not worth it. hope this helps friend

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People at work know I have a girl too, but what's to stop me from saying "things aren't working out", getting coffee as friends, then bringing this one back and screwing her, before she knows the truth for sure?

Answer is only my conscience :oops:


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Hakuna, spin this shit anyway you want in terms of psychology or regardless of a femcentric viewpoint: but the fact remains the OP is definitely not MANNING the fuck up and not an alpha "male" as you're painting him out to be.

You just compared him to BILL CLINTON. Are you fucking serious? Who next...TIGER WOODS? I mean Bill Clinton wanted to fuck fatso mcgee, but realistically his poll numbers would be affected and FAR FROM IT his PRESIDENCY (which it was). Had he been honest with his first lady, filed for divorce, and then made the move like a real man - he would not have gotten fucked in the ass by CONGRESS.

Cheating is one thing and its not a feminist view: it's a chode move and it is undeniably UNMANLY in game. This need to keep a girl he's saying where the sex is 'routine' and it fizzles out WHILE trying to cheat on her is a dick move and it operates on pure fucking scarcity.

This guy needs to find his balls and realize how he'd feel if his woman was having someone elses dick pounded into her (im sure his male ego would reverse it into where he would take this offensively). Similarly, all you cheaters are holding him to a DOUBLE STANDARD he cannot possibly comprehend: so it's okay for him to cheat on his girl, but would it be okay for his girl to CHEAT on him.

It's called CHEATING for a reason fucking numbskulls

You're trying to gain comfortable affection on the side while fucking around. If she's committed to you and you to her: man the fuck up. If you are having this eternal YOUNG MAN complex - then break up with her and really dive into this "Experience" you're so fucking wanting.


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i wouldnt look at it from a "getting caught" perspective. its a moral issue, the best PUAs are the ones with class. and i can't say for sure, but it sounds like your not to interested in your current relationship, if thats the case.. like i said, do the right thing. it takes a alot more balls to tell her things arnt working out than it does to sneak around and fuck other women (even if its a one time thing).

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I am going to ask you one question which is going to reveal your true nature as a man and lets really put this into fucking perspective: would you be okay if she cheated on you given the same reasons that she really feels a 'relationship' has developed long-term with you just to keep it? I.e. to keep things happy for her to be with you long term?

I think you really like this girl...you said 'typical married couple' but to be honest, you seem disingenuous. The fact is you don't sound like you are committed to your current girlfriend. This much is CLEAR. What you really should not do, is waste her fucking time letting her think you're a man she wants when really she's bound to smell that shit on you from a mile away (or not...but you're asking for it).

It's not about conscience, it's not about if you believe in the morality or the bullshit these posters are spewing about 'Alpha males think with their dick' which is retarded.

Alpha males think with both their dick and their mind when it comes to relationships. Fucks are for dicks. But the dilemma is : you have a relationship and an object of desire you want with your dick.

The answer is simple when you ask "would I be okay if she cheated on me (even though I'm sure she wont)?" And would you be okay if she let a guy cum inside her just to be with you and claim ...."Well we were like an old married couple and I just...WANTED a challenge."

If you cannot honestly say 'Yes' to this..it's not a matter of conscience...it's a matter of fucking reality.

It's time to say your goodbyes to her. Real relationships are more than sex...and for you to not even be willing to work with her on this, it just shows you're quick to cheat than to work at it.

You're a shitty boyfriend...but not because you want to be...but because something in your inner manhood is not being fulfilled. Work at it...or man up, and move on.

Enough said.


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I am going to ask you one question which is going to reveal your true nature as a man and lets really put this into fucking perspective: would you be okay if she cheated on you given the same reasons that she really feels a 'relationship' has developed long-term with you just to keep it? I.e. to keep things happy for her to be with you long term?

I think you really like this girl...you said 'typical married couple' but to be honest, you seem disingenuous. The fact is you don't sound like you are committed to your current girlfriend. This much is CLEAR. What you really should not do, is waste her fucking time letting her think you're a man she wants when really she's bound to smell that shit on you from a mile away (or not...but you're asking for it).

It's not about conscience, it's not about if you believe in the morality or the bullshit these posters are spewing about 'Alpha males think with their dick' which is retarded.

Alpha males think with both their dick and their mind when it comes to relationships. Fucks are for dicks. But the dilemma is : you have a relationship and an object of desire you want with your dick.

The answer is simple when you ask "would I be okay if she cheated on me (even though I'm sure she wont)?" And would you be okay if she let a guy cum inside her just to be with you and claim ...."Well we were like an old married couple and I just...WANTED a challenge."

If you cannot honestly say 'Yes' to this..it's not a matter of conscience...it's a matter of fucking reality.

It's time to say your goodbyes to her. Real relationships are more than sex...and for you to not even be willing to work with her on this, it just shows you're quick to cheat than to work at it.

You're a shitty boyfriend...but not because you want to be...but because something in your inner manhood is not being fulfilled. Work at it...or man up, and move on.

Enough said.
I'm just intelligent enough to realize that even when you love somebody, it's the nature of man to find other women attractive. To act on this is a choice that I don't take lightly. I do care for my girlfriend. But at the same time, I wonder if things don't work out, how much I'll regret not acting now. Life is short, and regret is one difficult thing to live with.

Regret is horrible. Sure, I would truly regret losing my girlfriend right now. But what if thing's don't work out? It's lost time. Lets entertain the choice here, not attack me bro.


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