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so I went alone last night. I had to take care of some businesses at night at a bar and decided to pick up some random girl. I set the goal to close fast since I didn't want to stay much longer. I was already frustrated because it's always the same environment. It was disappointing. just a milf owner of the club 7.5 and the bartender 8, the rest wasn't worth it at all. Usually I don't settle for less the 8.5 but I didn't had better SPAM and I had nothing to do. Couldn't pick one so decided to do both. Already knew the owner so I went straight to her and started some random talking and kino asap. milf was responsive, too much for my taste, I like challenges. We went outside for a smoke (I don't smoke, well I do but just when it's convenient). It was cold, more kino opportunity but she had to keep an eye on the clube too. Looking closer she was a 7. I didn't want her, at least at that time, I decided number closed. I could k close if I wanted very easily but I decided not to. Went to the bartender, new girl in town, tall blonde, young, I prefer brunettes but she was ok. she was busy working so I knew I couldn't pick up SPAM. I sat alone and ask for a drink while making eye contact. she already had noticed me before while I talked to the owner and to some other random girls. I had already started eye contact before. Eventually she went to me and asked me if I knew the owner. random chit chat mirroring rapport. I asked the owner for her to take a brake with some random excuse, the owner didn't liked it but I really didn't care. glad I went for the owner first and build some rapport otherwise I'm sure she wouldn't let the poor thing leave with me. we went outside for a smoke. I hate smoking but wtever. we talked a little more. it was cold so we hugged to warm up. nice boobs btw. some jokes some kino she let me touch her breasts to see if they were not silicone. they were real. I told her she's a sweet girl that doesn't belong to such a nasty place bla bla bla. she's new in town so I took the conversation to make her ask me to show her the city, always escalating kino. She finnaly asked and gave me her number. I was trying to k close but then the owner appears and decided not too.
went inside again for final drink, nothing worth notice, really boring, went home.

conclusion going single has no effect on the game.

I wake up. 2 numbers last night, but I lost my willingness. they are all the same. the owner is out of the equation, too easy. maybe I really should give a call to the new girl. some push pull. I could go to the bar again but I don't feel like I want to.

I'm open to your suggestions.

Being alone in a bar is all about the mentality. you are not really alone if you have some brains.


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Being alone in a bar is all about the mentality. you are not really alone if you have some brains.
I have seen a lot of your other posts which made me believe you were a troll, but you actually give good advice and solid description in this one. Nice.


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Being alone in a bar is all about the mentality. you are not really alone if you have some brains.
I have seen a lot of your other posts which made me believe you were a troll, but you actually give good advice and solid description in this one. Nice.
I understand what you say and I'll just explain once. I don't live in an anglosaxonic country so the society is kind of different and not all things can be applied. I just have a different experience.
I also say whatever I think without fearing any consequences. I say bad things if I need to. I understand people may not like it. I really don't care whatsoever. I'm just here having a good time and trying to help others and to learn other things I don't known of. If I think someone is shit I'll say so.
I also have no problem assuming my own errors.
I've success at pick up girls so I really couldn't care less about what others may think.
I could write stuff that would make me look good in front of you but I'm not here seeking any approval or reputation. that's completely meaningless to me. Truth hurts.
sure I'm very direct and use irony and sarcasm and sometimes people understand that as being arrogant. think of md house for example.
It's just part of my personality and style of life.
Actually girls sometime do complain about it but I think it's rather good because it was never an issue to pick up them. I use it in my favour.
But I'm sorry if someone felled offended. I'm not here to offend but I don't care either about drama queens or sensible people.
Glad it helped you.

but really 99% of pick up is in your brains. everything is about perception. if you feel alone you will not have much success. you have to feel good on your own. it's part of your inner game. you have to think outside the box and to adapt outside of your comfort zone. 80% of the communication is non verbal. even if you act brave and decide to go out alone it's not enough. A girl will sense your insecurity despite all your best efforts to hide it. you are only fooling yourself. you have to truly feel comfortable in all situations. you have to give confidence and security to everyone.
There's many ways to achieve this. It may take some training. But why shouldn't you go alone? don't you feel ok doing it? Sure friends can be great but friends don't ever give you pick ups that's bs. you have to do it on your own.
The only reason why people are complaining about being alone is because they are less afraid in a group, it's a natural thing, they feel more protected.
Sure you can play in a group but you don't known what you are missing if you never did it alone. If you really want to master you must do it alone.
I love going alone. No one bothers me I can do whatever I want I can pick up any I want. It's all about me. Actually this even helps pick up because girls sense the bad boy don't care about others alpha male attitude. It's one of the attraction laws.

If you are afraid for any reason make yourself a favour and grow some balls and JUST GO. Sure you won't have many success but anyway no one learns with success you have to learn with your mistakes.
Do it practice and train until you are not afraid. THEN you can improve your game.
FOCUS! first overcome all your fears then improve your inner game then start to improve all rest.
That's why most people that start fail big time. They try some pick up lines and shit and are all afraid of approaching a girl but do it anyway and then they can't pick up and say it's because the method sucks and/or doesn't work for them. Hell it doesn't. it works for everyone. you just have to do it right.

if you are reading this just stop whining about it and just go out alone. you'll thank me later in a few months.


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Being alone in a bar is all about the mentality. you are not really alone if you have some brains.
If you are afraid for any reason make yourself a favour and grow some balls and JUST GO. Sure you won't have many success but anyway no one learns with success you have to learn with your mistakes.
Do it practice and train until you are not afraid. THEN you can improve your game.
FOCUS! first overcome all your fears then improve your inner game then start to improve all rest.
That's why most people that start fail big time. They try some pick up lines and shit and are all afraid of approaching a girl but do it anyway and then they can't pick up and say it's because the method sucks and/or doesn't work for them. Hell it doesn't. it works for everyone. you just have to do it right.

if you are reading this just stop whining about it and just go out alone. you'll thank me later in a few months.
Wow great advice. Thanks man. You should keep a field report journal so we can learn off your ways of what to do when you are alone.

Great work


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Wow great advice. Thanks man. You should keep a field report journal so we can learn off your ways of what to do when you are alone.

Great work
what you need to realise is that there isn't a way or what to do thing. you are doing the exactly same thing. having a good time and pick up some girls. It's no different when you are in a group. Actually sometimes even if you go in a group you end up alone by the end of the night. Are you going to approach a cute single girl with a bunch of guys? no way, you go alone just by yourself. Why it should be different if you go alone?


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Went out again last night, and I think I can get past that I am going out alone, I can fight through the feelings. The beginning was kind of slow again, but once I started to warm up and little buzzed from alcohol, I started not to care much about anything. Again I was in "making friends" mentality.
Since I've been watching RSD Blueprint, I haven't used any canned openers or other gambits. Now, blueprint is all about inner game and being rooted to what you are as a person. I know this is way against what beliefs I should have, but looks probably do matter a lot to girl of beauty. I tried opening EVERY set of girls last night, which was maybe about 25 or so, and only the less desired girls were responsive to simple high five and how is your night guys introduction/opener. So am gonna say about half of the sets opened. Now your gonna think that I am not delivering it properly or being congruent? well I certainly wasn't making newbie mistakes like leaning in, talking quietly, not having good eye contact, talk fast,.... I don't know, it seems like either I should use some canned opinion opener or maybe I can't get hot girls, not sure.
Also people at RSD, or other PUA for this matter, seem to be more handsome than average guy so it does have to do something with looks, lol.


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Went out again last night, and I think I can get past that I am going out alone, I can fight through the feelings. The beginning was kind of slow again, but once I started to warm up and little buzzed from alcohol, I started not to care much about anything. Again I was in "making friends" mentality.
Since I've been watching RSD Blueprint, I haven't used any canned openers or other gambits. Now, blueprint is all about inner game and being rooted to what you are as a person. I know this is way against what beliefs I should have, but looks probably do matter a lot to girl of beauty. I tried opening EVERY set of girls last night, which was maybe about 25 or so, and only the less desired girls were responsive to simple high five and how is your night guys introduction/opener. So am gonna say about half of the sets opened. Now your gonna think that I am not delivering it properly or being congruent? well I certainly wasn't making newbie mistakes like leaning in, talking quietly, not having good eye contact, talk fast,.... I don't know, it seems like either I should use some canned opinion opener or maybe I can't get hot girls, not sure.
Also people at RSD, or other PUA for this matter, seem to be more handsome than average guy so it does have to do something with looks, lol.
Hey man, well done for going out and doing it. I'm sure with more practice and becoming more comfortable, you will get into sets with hot girls.

I went out alone for the first time last night too. Just to my local town, and by the time I got out I just headed straight for the club. To be honest it was a struggle, did feel a little weird but I know that is all in my head. As other posters in this thread have said, there is nothing wrong with it. I need to internalise that and go out solo more to get used to it.

For the first hour I didn't speak to anyone. When I went into the club everyone was ushered into one room, and I noticed the crowd was fairly young. Then everyone was handed head phones - it was one of those silent party things, where the DJ plays music through the headphones lol. That threw me for a loop! Soon other places opened up and I headed to a different room that played early 90s rock, which I liked, so that was cool and I was able to talk to lots of people. Actually ran into some girls I know, not attractive, but had a bit dance with them which helped give me a bit of social proof and I opened a HB7 just by dancing near her, then got talking. Soon thought some areseholes started a brawl and the whole room (which wasn't very big) got cleared out so broken glass could be cleaned up. Lost the HB7 at this point.

So it was back to the silent disco, so I set up near to the bar, and spoke to a few people there, and its so true, once you get the first few out of the way, once you get over that initial wall, it becomes so much easier. I was opened by a rather large lady, lol, but then her HB8 friend joined us and I spoke to her too, she was hammered and stunk of booze, but the convo went pretty well, till her boyfriend showed up. Bugger. I know there are ways of continuing the conversation here, and I did, including him in it and he seemed cool enough, but made an excuse to leave shortly after.

Lights came up shortly after and it was time to head home. So I did it, my first solo sarging session. Not a massive success by any stretch but I did it, and will make it a regular thing. Practice makes perfect. However the biggest thing I learned is that if you are on your own, people don't seem to care. I was never once asked 'who are you out with' or 'where are your friends'.

As someone said before, its not weird until you make it weird.


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Raziel01, thanks for a reply. As for me, almost everyone was asking me where my friends were, I just told them I either waiting for them to get here, or I tell them that my friend is dancing with some girl.
Actually, what do you guys think of an opener "hey what's up guys, I am gonna join for a minute, until my friends get here". I did say this a few times when I opened some mixed sets, I tried on girls only set and it wasn't that great. This was delivered with a confident and loud voice.
Perhaps my mistake is being too energetic and excited when I first introduce myself. I usually give people high fives, since it is a little bit different way of greeting people. But most of the time, it takes people like 2-4 seconds to respond because they have a phone or a drink or whatever in their dominant hand, or it takes them a second to process that I want them to put their hand up for a high five. lol. Do you think fives are effective? I feel like it shows that I am playful and I don't really care to be proper. Really hot girls just told me to go away after I say "high five" lol.
I need some good gambits for after my introduction.


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Raziel01, thanks for a reply. As for me, almost everyone was asking me where my friends were, I just told them I either waiting for them to get here, or I tell them that my friend is dancing with some girl.
Actually, what do you guys think of an opener "hey what's up guys, I am gonna join for a minute, until my friends get here". I did say this a few times when I opened some mixed sets, I tried on girls only set and it wasn't that great. This was delivered with a confident and loud voice.
Perhaps my mistake is being too energetic and excited when I first introduce myself. I usually give people high fives, since it is a little bit different way of greeting people. But most of the time, it takes people like 2-4 seconds to respond because they have a phone or a drink or whatever in their dominant hand, or it takes them a second to process that I want them to put their hand up for a high five. lol. Do you think fives are effective? I feel like it shows that I am playful and I don't really care to be proper. Really hot girls just told me to go away after I say "high five" lol.
I need some good gambits for after my introduction.
Well at least you had an answer set up for when they asked. Mine was, since it was late anyway, that they bailed and went home, but I was having fun so was staying out. Only time I used it was with the girls I already knew, and they didn't even ask lol. I just told them.

Not sure about the high fives to be honest, never tried it, but if it didn't work great for you try something different next time, and lead into a high five later if needed. One of the people I opened at the silent disco thing was to literally ask how to change the frequancy on the headphones.

Oh, I remembered another one (must have been more drunk than I though), at the bar with a HB7 - she had just been served and I told her to be nice and point the barman towards me next, as I didn't have breasts to get his attention. The bar may actually be a good place to warm up, as everyone is just stood waiting so might as well initiate something with who ever you are stood next to.

As for gambits after the intro, how about noticing something about the group (or HB if she is on her own) and bring that up? I'm more thinking out loud here than anything but if she is wearing something that catches the eye you could use that to tranisiton to something, or if the group are out ask what the occasion is? You could find out who is with who that way?

Again, this is just stuff I'm thinking up, I haven't field tested it and others may be able to point out why it sucks, so don't expect it to be gold lol.


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I can't get this silent disco image out of my head haha, kinda reminds of that movie clockwork orange when the group are in the milk bar, bunch of weird people hanging out lol.
Anyway, this week I am gonna practice a few openers and maybe learn one DHV story. Haven't used canned openers for a while.


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I can't get this silent disco image out of my head haha, kinda reminds of that movie clockwork orange when the group are in the milk bar, bunch of weird people hanging out lol.
Anyway, this week I am gonna practice a few openers and maybe learn one DHV story. Haven't used canned openers for a while.
Haha, I know the bit you mean! That was my first silent disco, probably my last. Let me know how the canned material works, I didn't really try any of that. More just what came to mind to try to work past my AA.


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I can't get this silent disco image out of my head haha, kinda reminds of that movie clockwork orange when the group are in the milk bar, bunch of weird people hanging out lol.
Anyway, this week I am gonna practice a few openers and maybe learn one DHV story. Haven't used canned openers for a while.
Haha, I know the bit you mean! That was my first silent disco, probably my last. Let me know how the canned material works, I didn't really try any of that. More just what came to mind to try to work past my AA.
I used canned material at college night setting, it worked good when trying to open. Right now I go to places known to have real stuck up bitches.


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just got back from a club and some bars that are in the same area. first of all I am reporting tonight because I am disappointed with the results. I went out with 3 of my friends but most of the time I stayed with one of my friends, and half of the time I was gaming alone. Big failure tonight. Since it is a memorial day weekend, there were plentiful of very attractive girl sets. NONE of the hot girl sets opened beyond them saying hello. I went very direct sometimes, and sometimes I had some typical indirect opener. None seemed to work. For direct openers I went in saying high five and introduced myself and told them I wanted to meet them, all hb8-10 ignored or had "whatever" look on their face.
I opened some mix of girls that went ok, but I wasn't able to get the phone numbers of the most attactive ones out of the group.
Later thanks to my friend, whom doesn't know about pua stuff, I gotta give him props, he escalates really quick by touching girls, he introduced me to a four set of decent girls. One girl is really cute. we talked for a bit and all of them turned out to be going to the same university as me. I told them they should get my number so we can hang out sometime, one of the girl let me type in my number in her phone and that was it.
I opened about ~22 sets tonight, only about 3 of which were fun, rest were stuck up bitches. Out of those 3, there was maybe 3 hot girls within the group.
Idk people, I am pretty pissed off, and I think it comes down to looks man. I am doing all the right things in terms of physical appearance and inner game, but it ain't just working.
I think day game might be my route, but if most girls don't find me attractive physically, I don't know, it's just hard. And I thought I was over superficial things like looks, but it does matter a lot especially to get girls I would like to get to know..


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Look at Advanced Game "Looks Matter" topic.

If you're getting busted by 20+ sets, it could be you are insanely ugly...but I doubt this is true. Anything beyond this is you seriously mental masterbating it. And also, don't think daygame is any different.

If you're going in direct and the sets AREN'T EVEN opening, are you persisting enough? Are you being OUTCOME INDEPENDENT? Just because you approach/open sets, doesn't mean you don't wreak of desperation. Calling them bitches is not a good thing either. Note: they HAVE to be bitches.

They've been stalked and scared to death by some guy (most of these girls)...so whats to say you're not the Bayharbor Butcher?

Also...yet again you seem to be so stuck on looks. Are you seriously this ugly? like seriously? If so, then yes. Your looks will extremely matter. But trust me when I say, looks don't matter ALL that much.....and also different looks are different to different girls.

I mean start using that small peanut you call a brain for once when it comes to this. And seriously...learn some inner fucking game here man.


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reporting again this morning. CaptainJackHarkness, my looks I would say are just below average. I don't really have much approach anxiety after first few sets and I go into I don't care what happens attitude.
I am not outcome dependent and a lot of times I just tell girls right away I am here to make friends, and with girls that open positively, I escalate anyway.
Perhaps I am going to wrong places. The club I was at last night was really loud, and naturally hottest girls were there. To be able to talk to girls I was opening sets farthest away from dance floor.
I do not call them bitches, I am just illustrating a point. A lot of times when I try to introduce myself, girls that are not interested will just turn back to their friends whatever, I just say "have a good night" , smile and walk away and try to open another set, which usually doesn't go that well either, lol.
Perhaps I am just gonna try to work my way up starting with uglier bitches.


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