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 Post subject: A good PUA
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:24 pm 
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This is just something I noted. I decided to post it here so Ill remember.
I found that a person with good game or simply a good personality whos good with girls is able to make a boring conversation or a boring personality into something extremely something interesting. I was always unaware of exactly what quality it was that I saw in amazing people and was unable to conciously put it into words until I figured it out. For instance, if the guy is having a conversation with this extremely boring girl who is making the conversation extremely boring, he is able to change it into something that he enjoys himself and the girl enjoys by making it extremely interesting and fun. This is actually really hard to do and it really translates into the rest of your life by making every moment interesting rather than dull. These people are hard to come by because their outlook is hard to model and copy, rare, and takes a very specific outlook on life to practice. But they are the best type of people as they make everyone around them feel better and want to be with you more. I personally always made the excuse that the girl was extremely boring and was not carrying the conversation herself so I would leave but I have found that even if this may be true, I need to develop this new outlook on life just so enjoy things more and on top of that, get the skills to actually keep it interesting and fun if I ever meet a complete 10 that for some reason may not be able to keep the conversation interesting herself for whatever reason

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:04 pm 
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This starts with mindset.

If you're witty - you know it. MOST people are simply clever.

Witty people say the right thing at the right moment..... CLEVER people think "Damn, I should have said blah blah blah" just after the moment passes. Witty people simply think a step faster.

In that light, witty people don't need to worry about 'boring' conversation. They don't care. Why? Because EVERY conversation they have will be awesome because they're in it - and they know that about themselves. It's an intrinsic quality.

Clever people can improve their ability. Learn where your shortfall is. Are you a boring person? STOP - and start taking risks, LIVE a little, then you have something to talk about.

If you're a good guy (Not the pussy NICE guy), and you're clever... you do lead a pretty eventful life ... start learning how to stack. Start your own story thread, continue hers until you can transition to your own story line.

Also - a lot of guys don't know how to answer with ONE/TWO WORD statements. If she says something pretty cool you respond with "That's awesome...." or "Wow, I'm sorry" or "Damn, that fucking blows!"... then pause... She'll start talking again. You're giving her credibility and acceptance. I can assure you MOST men don't listen to her at all when they first meet. You're altering her perception is what you're doing - you're making her pre-select you.

Also, if she's being deep - use active listening skills... Don't ask WHY questions - they're defense-provoking. Reflect and summarize her statements.... "SO what you're saying is [summarize succinctly here what she said]... Wow, that sounds difficult [easy,fun,silly,whatever...]... How did you feel about blah blah? See what I did? I'm not offering ANYTHING to the conversation. I'm nudging her to continue, and subliminally making her comfort level rise as she KNOWS I am listening to her - not just hearing her.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:53 am 
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Interesting. Yes, I have recently considered doing more of a mirroring type thing than constant questioning because some questions cause problems and lead the convo into areas you dont want or emotions you dont need.

But for everyone, so they understand what Im saying more:
Heres examples:
Average Joe (thinks in his head): Wow this girl is really boring. The conversation is dead and she is not even bothering to even attempt to continue it. How rude. Not worth my time .... even though I approached her first. I "screened" her out since we do not click (leaves in under 5 minutes after a long boring silence when the conversation dies)

The Master: From the moment he opened his mouth, he was having fun and everything he said is interesting, NOT because he's entertaining her or using tricks but because he IS interesting. Everything he does is interesting. The girl is pretty average and boring for his standards but he barely notices because he makes everything he says naturally interesting because he is an interesting guy. Any awkward or boring silence that may result from an Average Joe is immediately removed since he always has something humorous or awesome to say because of his amazing personality. HE is enjoying himself because HE is an enjoyable personality. The girl quickly finds that this guy is a rarity and starts to chase him.

See the difference?

Real life example:

Average Joe: "yeah thats cool... so you work at a bar... cool............ (awkward silence)" *Joe starts to think this girl is really rude for not even trying to continue the convo after the huge silence and boring but in reality he was the one who approached her and therefore he is the one who is boring and the girl just doesn't see any reason to continue the conversation enthusiastically herself

Master: "so you work at the bar huh? ever get any drunk people throwing up on the floor. *humor I remember this one time...." (sorry not the best example, I havent mastered it but Ive seen naturals who can just make the boringest convo into something extremely extremely funny) He is not trying. It comes naturally for him to make things interesting because as long as he is in the convo it will be interesting because he IS interesting.


The only problem I see is, you end up having a mindset of since you will always be around yourself, you will always make everything around you interesting. So you're doing this 24/7 And there'll be no way to differentiate from when you are actually trying harder or being special for someone special. Also, it may draw in a lot of people or girls you are not interested in

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:36 am 
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great turning point here for you,

it's not about picking up girls, it's about enjoying yourself, hit on girls for fun, success is in the approach, not in the close, be proactive not reactive, you don't need anything from girls, you already have it all, give instead of taking

to every action, there is a reaction, think for yourself, don't get lazy, bring the value, create threads, lead conversations, ammuse yourself rather then other people, start having fun playing with people, practise your skills, push and pull, qualification, teasing, frame control, mirroring, active listening, grounding, pacing the energy and leading the vibe, it can get to be really fun and eventually the enjoyment comes from the connecting with a new person and making a new buddy, sex doesn't really matter, if you've had one cute girl, you've pretty much had them all, it's all about finding that perfect girl who can fuck with you and actually make you laugh, the one that can throw you off, a girl who can keep up


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:49 am 
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The only problem I see is, you end up having a mindset of since you will always be around yourself, you will always make everything around you interesting. So you're doing this 24/7 And there'll be no way to differentiate from when you are actually trying harder or being special for someone special. Also, it may draw in a lot of people or girls you are not interested in
Not true.

You're reflecting her emotions, thoughts, feelings back to her. What other guy does that? What narcissist can handle keeping the focus on her and not himself?

The PUA isn't a narcissist - he's a people whisperer. And... he never worries about conversation - at all. It happens on its own. For many, that's a natural thing, for others it's learned.

As for attracting people/girls I'm not interested in... that's not a problem, it's an opportunity. Those people have friends, too...

I'm not so self-centered where I'll put myself on some pedestal. I just have incorporated 'game' (MY game) into everything I do... from getting my hair cut, to going to the grocery store, to dry cleaning, to gas, to pet supples - I always start conversations, and try to keep women in my daily circle as much as possible... and that happens without much thought at all...

Don't limit yourself to just mindset. I love what I do, I love how I do it. I enjoy talking to people, and selecting which ones I'm talking with that I really want to fuck. THAT's a high.

RR

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:28 pm 
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This is just something I noted. I decided to post it here so Ill remember.
I found that a person with good game or simply a good personality whos good with girls is able to make a boring conversation or a boring personality into something extremely something interesting. I was always unaware of exactly what quality it was that I saw in amazing people and was unable to conciously put it into words until I figured it out. For instance, if the guy is having a conversation with this extremely boring girl who is making the conversation extremely boring, he is able to change it into something that he enjoys himself and the girl enjoys by making it extremely interesting and fun. This is actually really hard to do and it really translates into the rest of your life by making every moment interesting rather than dull. These people are hard to come by because their outlook is hard to model and copy, rare, and takes a very specific outlook on life to practice. But they are the best type of people as they make everyone around them feel better and want to be with you more. I personally always made the excuse that the girl was extremely boring and was not carrying the conversation herself so I would leave but I have found that even if this may be true, I need to develop this new outlook on life just so enjoy things more and on top of that, get the skills to actually keep it interesting and fun if I ever meet a complete 10 that for some reason may not be able to keep the conversation interesting herself for whatever reason


Peel is not hard to do at all, is actually very simple if you relax, and you are not outcome dependent, sense of humor help tons.... Here is tyler talking about the same subject i also,encourage you to look at my perfect opener post were poetic covers how to do that:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrHAJrUG-1g[/youtube]

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