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Discard what she says. Pay extremely close attention to what she does.
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You have to get inside her head and figure out who she is, once you know that you can give her what she wants.
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My thoughts? Who cares?! :P

If some civil rights group wants to consider me a bigot because I go out and create really fun and crazy adventures with women then oh well, guess I'm a bigot. ;)
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How many PUA's have gone "heavy kino" with girls who didn't want it? How often has persistence strayed into the territory of something more sinister?
if the girl does not want it then you do not persist, if the dude persist, unless is a shit test, usually the first and the second time(women usually say no about 3 times not to look like sluts) then he does not know what he is doing...
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The standard pattern of thought of a "college rapist" is that girls rarely slap him and have yet to report him, so that must mean he's perfectly fine.
I went to college for 6 years one a community college and one a university, so i never met, heard or saw any college rapist...
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A lot of "escalate and persist" PUAs hold to a mantra that ignores the choices of the women they meet.
That was gunwitch, must pua do the modern version which is 60 yoc or rsd, and if the choice of the women, is no, they go to another girl...
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"if a girl says no she really means yes"
-WTF is that suppose to mean?
Sometimes no is no yet, depends on the situation... Escalation and persistence has nothing to do with rape or anything close to that, nor is something sinister... Now if you escalate the right way you don't really need to be persistent...

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Discard what she says. Pay extremely close attention to what she does.
Exxxxxxxxxxxxxxaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccccttttttttttttlllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy.

You have to get inside her head and figure out who she is, once you know that you can give her what she wants.

^ that!

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How many PUA's have gone "heavy kino" with girls who didn't want it? How often has persistence strayed into the territory of something more sinister?
if the girl does not want it then you do not persist, if the dude persist, unless is a shit test, usually the first and the second time(women usually say no about 3 times not to look like sluts) then he does not know what he is doing...
You have a relatively sensible approach to rejection, which is not necessarily shared by the nastier elements of this community.
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The standard pattern of thought of a "college rapist" is that girls rarely slap him and have yet to report him, so that must mean he's perfectly fine.
I went to college for 6 years one a community college and one a university, so i never met, heard or saw any college rapist...
If you're really interested, google "thoughts, attitudes, beliefs of rapists" (or something to that affect) you'd be pretty surprised at how similar the two groups can be. In-fact I'd advice that any member reading this post should do so right now.
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A lot of "escalate and persist" PUAs hold to a mantra that ignores the choices of the women they meet.
That was gunwitch, must pua do the modern version which is 60 yoc or rsd, and if the choice of the women, is no, they go to another girl...
Last I recalled Gunwitch is serving time for walking up to a girl and blasting a hole in her face with .357 magnum. Invoking his name doesn't do you any favours. Regardless not every PUA feels the same way about rejection.
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"if a girl says no she really means yes"
-WTF is that suppose to mean?
Sometimes no is no yet, depends on the situation... Escalation and persistence has nothing to do with rape or anything close to that, nor is something sinister... Now if you escalate the right way you don't really need to be persistent...
The bold part I totally agree with. But.. ignoring a girl saying no and escalating anyway is at the very least sexual harrasment. Escalation and persistence is how most rapists operate, not through violence in a back alley, you just grab her when you are in a good place and fuck her and don't worry "women love it, she just says no so she doesn't look like a slut".
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Last I recalled Gunwitch is serving time for walking up to a girl and blasting a hole in her face with .357 magnum. Invoking his name doesn't do you any favours. Regardless not every PUA feels the same way about rejection.
Gunwitch was found innocent for acting in self defense.

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Last I recalled Gunwitch is serving time for walking up to a girl and blasting a hole in her face with .357 magnum. Invoking his name doesn't do you any favours. Regardless not every PUA feels the same way about rejection.
Gunwitch was found innocent for acting in self defense.
Haven't kept up with it all lately. Googling around doesn't reveal much other than he claimed to of acted in self defence and because the girl was a meth addict the prosecutors decided to book him for the unlawful use of a handgun.
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How many PUA's have gone "heavy kino" with girls who didn't want it? How often has persistence strayed into the territory of something more sinister?
if the girl does not want it then you do not persist, if the dude persist, unless is a shit test, usually the first and the second time(women usually say no about 3 times not to look like sluts) then he does not know what he is doing...
You have a relatively sensible approach to rejection, which is not necessarily shared by the nastier elements of this community.
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The standard pattern of thought of a "college rapist" is that girls rarely slap him and have yet to report him, so that must mean he's perfectly fine.
I went to college for 6 years one a community college and one a university, so i never met, heard or saw any college rapist...
If you're really interested, google "thoughts, attitudes, beliefs of rapists" (or something to that affect) you'd be pretty surprised at how similar the two groups can be. In-fact I'd advice that any member reading this post should do so right now.
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A lot of "escalate and persist" PUAs hold to a mantra that ignores the choices of the women they meet.
That was gunwitch, must pua do the modern version which is 60 yoc or rsd, and if the choice of the women, is no, they go to another girl...
Last I recalled Gunwitch is serving time for walking up to a girl and blasting a hole in her face with .357 magnum. Invoking his name doesn't do you any favours. Regardless not every PUA feels the same way about rejection.
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"if a girl says no she really means yes"
-WTF is that suppose to mean?
Sometimes no is no yet, depends on the situation... Escalation and persistence has nothing to do with rape or anything close to that, nor is something sinister... Now if you escalate the right way you don't really need to be persistent...
The bold part I totally agree with. But.. ignoring a girl saying no and escalating anyway is at the very least sexual harrasment. Escalation and persistence is how most rapists operate, not through violence in a back alley, you just grab her when you are in a good place and fuck her and don't worry "women love it, she just says no so she doesn't look like a slut".
Wholly crap! another dude in my list of not having any type of discussion... thank you for your responses...

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Read a couple threads on a Roosh forum, and you'd see why someone would think of PUA as bigotry. There are dudes out there who legit hate women. I'm pretty sure some guys learn to pick up women just to screw them over, both figuratively and literally, with the ultimate dream to be to gather the tears of women who were told "I'll call you tomorrow" and never heard from them again and using those tears as lube to jerk off.

Pickup is like any other school of thought in life. Philosophy, politics, etc., it's open to interpretation. There are good interpretations and bad ones. But, because the general concepts are in direct conflict with popular culture, it will all be labeled bad.

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A lot of guys in the community are super fucked up. Then again, the ones who get really good are not bigoted - just real. It is what it is.
Yep, being real, the core of PUA.

And once you're real, you'll either be a nice guy or a bigot based upon who you were before.
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