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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:51 am 
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So to make the story short :
I met this hb 8 like 2 weeks ago via mutual friends.We see each other like every other days at school. So we went out to beach with a bunch of friends and she gave some many IOIs. I realized she was interetsed in me.We talked and had great time and I got her number.
Last week, I realized she is seeing a guy and she was getting a little cold toward me when she realized I got the news.So I asked her last week to hang out on weekend she said ok and I said how about friday. She said she doesn't know her plan yet.So I didn't insist and nothing happened.
Honestly, I really like her and she is seeing this guy before me but I think she is interested in me . So I want to make it slow and ask her out in non threat way.
I was thinking of something like that :

I found you gorgeous and interesting.We don't have to be best friend but I like to hang out with you so we can know each other better.Let's hang out on X...

I just want to tell it's not a date or something like that and I know if we go out together and get closed, I can make her interested in me.
So what do you think of the above sentence? is there a better way to tell her?


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:21 am 
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I like it when people are blunt with me on this forum so I'm going to be blunt with you. Youre message is terrible. Youre giving her IOIs that she did not work for. You are coming off needy and you are coming off like you just want be friends with her. Be short, be assertive and tell her exactly what you want. This passive shit will never get you anywhere.

If she was giving you IOIs when you were out with her that is awesome. But it sounds like you just watched them happen and didnt act on them. Rookie mistake. She showed you she was interested and you did nothing so she found another dude.

You need to escalate and you need to isolate her. " hey lets take a walk" would have been a completely acceptable suggestion at the beach.

Youve lost the upper hand and you need it back. The best thing you could do now is to freeze her out. Dont act cold towards her and dont be a dick. Just act disintrested in her. Let her come to you. Let her work for youre attention.

Good luck and cheers.
-BRAD


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:41 am 
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I like it when people are blunt with me on this forum so I'm going to be blunt with you. Youre message is terrible. Youre giving her IOIs that she did not work for. You are coming off needy and you are coming off like you just want be friends with her. Be short, be assertive and tell her exactly what you want. This passive shit will never get you anywhere.

If she was giving you IOIs when you were out with her that is awesome. But it sounds like you just watched them happen and didnt act on them. Rookie mistake. She showed you she was interested and you did nothing so she found another dude.

You need to escalate and you need to isolate her. " hey lets take a walk" would have been a completely acceptable suggestion at the beach.

Youve lost the upper hand and you need it back. The best thing you could do now is to freeze her out. Dont act cold towards her and dont be a dick. Just act disintrested in her. Let her come to you. Let her work for youre attention.

Good luck and cheers.
-BRAD
I wish I had read your comment sooner. I just asked her If she wants to go out as a friend and she says yes.But when I asked her let's do it on X day. She said she has a plan and even when I asked on Y,she said:"I can't , let's make it next week."
She is a nice girl so she didn't want to say no. But I fuck it up, I am feeling bad since I had her but now I easily lost her.The bad thing is that I'll see her again and I don't like it.


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Dude. you can still do exactly what I had suggested. Freeze her out. Act uninterested and start talking to other girls. She WILL at some point wonder what is up and want to re connect. MAKE HER WORK FOR IT.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:30 am 
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Dude. you can still do exactly what I had suggested. Freeze her out. Act uninterested and start talking to other girls. She WILL at some point wonder what is up and want to re connect. MAKE HER WORK FOR IT.
Yeah this is the only option I have. I think she has gotten deep with that guy and I showed myself weak in her eyes. I was like begging for her.
If I isolated and kinoed her, I knew for sure I was with her now. Instead I just hung out with group and talked about dumb things.I learned my lesson but I've been punished badly since I really like her.
The whole PUA is so technical and if you don't do any part right ,you are done.


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Just ask her out, act like she's not seeing anyone but you.

Brads advice is terrible. Freeze out a girl who has options? A girl who may have given you IOIs but that's about it? Her investment in you is likely minimal at best and freezing out will likely just annoy her. This freezing out business has gotten out of hand.


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A girl that has options does not like a dude who follows her around like a fucking puppy. Asking a girl out when she sees you as a friend (which in this case she does) is a bad look. She needs to see you a viable and sexual candidate for you to get anywhere. Girls want what they cannot have or what looks like a challenge therefore by not focusing exclusivly on her and hanging out with other girls she WILL notice you. Try this out if you execute it correctly its good advice and FUCK the dude that says it isnt.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:54 pm 
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A girl that has options does not like a dude who follows her around like a fucking puppy. Asking a girl out when she sees you as a friend (which in this case she does) is a bad look. She needs to see you a viable and sexual candidate for you to get anywhere. Girls want what they cannot have or what looks like a challenge therefore by not focusing exclusivly on her and hanging out with other girls she WILL notice you. Try this out if you execute it correctly its good advice and FUCK the dude that says it isnt.

Cheers.
-BRAD
For some reason I figured out she has said someone that she is in love with that guy. The thing is that she has just came here and doesn't have any friends except us and she met that guy at work.So in her loneliness she goes to him and you know when you are alone and has no friends , you are easily dependent and in love with a person.
I have a unique situation that I spend like 4 hours a day next to her in different rooms.(just me and her- don't ask how). She is not willing too much to hangout with me now because of knowing my feeling but whenever I ask her to come to my room, she comes.

So I want to slowly seduce her.It's a best way to learn pua stuff and apply them since she has to see me everyday and I want to get her back.
So I need to have something interesting to show and ask her to come and see.
Any advice?
Also,I am going to vegas next week.So for first step is it cool to send her some pics of me with some hot chicks to show I have fun?
She has not seen me with other girls yet.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:59 am 
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If she likes you more than a friend, the word friend is just a label...


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:10 am 
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I like it when people are blunt with me on this forum so I'm going to be blunt with you. Youre message is terrible. Youre giving her IOIs that she did not work for. You are coming off needy and you are coming off like you just want be friends with her. Be short, be assertive and tell her exactly what you want. This passive shit will never get you anywhere.

If she was giving you IOIs when you were out with her that is awesome. But it sounds like you just watched them happen and didnt act on them. Rookie mistake. She showed you she was interested and you did nothing so she found another dude.

You need to escalate and you need to isolate her. " hey lets take a walk" would have been a completely acceptable suggestion at the beach.

Youve lost the upper hand and you need it back. The best thing you could do now is to freeze her out. Dont act cold towards her and dont be a dick. Just act disintrested in her. Let her come to you. Let her work for youre attention.

Good luck and cheers.
-BRAD


That was mean...


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:40 am 
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In my experience, purposely putting yourself in the friend zone is a bad idea. First off, it'll probably piss off the girl if she knows you're lying to her or not being up front.

Second, you've already got a challenge with the girl, and with her liking the other guy. So why make it even harder by having to de-friend yourself later?

I can't tell from the post, but I don't think you have the rapport to be sending pictures of you and other girls.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:03 am 
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In my experience, purposely putting yourself in the friend zone is a bad idea. First off, it'll probably piss off the girl if she knows you're lying to her or not being up front.

Second, you've already got a challenge with the girl, and with her liking the other guy. So why make it even harder by having to de-friend yourself later?

I can't tell from the post, but I don't think you have the rapport to be sending pictures of you and other girls.
You are right dude. My rapport with her was great when we were at beach. But she is avoiding me now. Also,I don't think she believed me when I said let's be friend.
Whenever I see her she makes me horny and I wanna fuck her. lol.
So considering my position, I have 2 advantages:
1-she used to like me (I think because of my look) 2-she has to be near me every day for several hours.
So I'd like to make her like me. If I can do that,I'll have easier time with next HB.
I want to have some interesting things in my room to show her
Any ideas or suggestion about interesting things to have in room and aslo what's polite way to ask her to come and see?


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