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I've started a Journal a month ago, I wrap my week in one post a week and here's the 4th one.

May 6, 2012

An other week, an other rumble.

Hey guys! This week was a big one!

I got back into daygame on Monday after meeting with Riddler. That guy is way more high energy than I am in daygame! He was complimenting girls about their style or looks, giving high-5s as an opener for a 2-set –the girls complied- with an enthusiastic energy. The girls seemed flattered, but there wasn’t a real interaction going. Most of the time, he’d wish the girl a nice day before we’d keep walking. That reinforced my belief that I really have to make every interaction count as if it was the first and only one, as if I were falling in love with the girl right from the moment I see her. To focus on that inner feeling of well-being, loving life just because you’re alive and enjoying all the beauties that it has to offer.

As for how it went for me, I prefer to stop the girl, look at her in the eyes and tell her she’s cute/adorable/wtv, introduce myself, ask her what she’s up to/heading to and start a convo from there. I felt nervous again when opening cuz I hadn’t done any daygame in nearly 3-4 weeks! What Riddler was telling me was to be more affirmative and enthusiastic in the interaction. That I had to improve my self-expression. In daygame I find that how you open is really what sets the table for the interaction. If your hesitant or nervous, the girl is gone in the next second.
So for the next time I open a girl during the day, I’ll be affirmative, enthusiastic and I’ll really make it genuine.

Oh and we did the newbie mission! we went to Eaton Center and opened all the girls that give us an eye contact - not that many! The girls would look at us either with a smile, or with a confused look on their face one we said hi! I found it hard to simply sustain an eye contact with all the girls, simply because I was looking at them to get them to look at me, but by the time that they do, it felt awkward to still be fixing them! any tricks to provoke an eye contact at the right time?


Thursday night was the first nightgame session of the week. I went out with football players that I’m training to La Porte Rouge on the plateau. I walk in, go to the back of the bar and look for them. They’re not there so I txt them and as I look up, baaaam right in front of me is a girl I had invited on Monday to go out Friday via fb and who had not responded yet. That was funny! I had forgotten about that and was surprised to see her appear in front of me, so she excused herself for not answering my msg because “it always takes her forever to answer”. Wtv, it didn’t after me at all, said hi to her friend, which she introduced to me and then went back to my group. I could see them interacting with 2 other guys, she looked over once or twice as I did. I could have gone up to her, but I figure if she was interested, she would have responded to my invitation, so I let her with whoever she was with.

Football players=HB surrounding! There were about 8-10 guys there, some had a gf, others were shy and were drinking together, so there were about 8 girls with us that the guys knew, some who were sleeping with one of the guys or hoping to. I had a mental block there. I found it harder to kino or be direct on the girls that are introduced to me by common friends. I was behaving as a “friend interaction”, and didn’t see any clear IOI from the girl, so I was hesitant to kino heavily. Here again, isolating the girl would have been the solution, but I had a hard time to create a fun interaction with them.
Something that came up to my mind is “how can I transition naturally, without it seeming as if I had recited this and being out of context, to dhv and telling my story after being introduced????”
Around 2, one girl walked by, I grabed her arms while she was halfway facing me and asked her if she as single. She said yes, then I told her
R:are you single?
HBlatina : yes!
R: I think you’re really hot!
HBlatina:thx!
R: -I pull her into me and say to her ear : I’m Rooster, what’s your name?
HBlatina : I’m ****, nice to meet you.

Here, I the girl was clearly attracted and turned on. She was enjoying that I was moving fast. At this point, I had not felt any fear, I had just said what went through my mind and acted the way I felt. Then, this brilliant question come up to my mind to f*ck up the interaction : “what should I say next”, which led to the following thought “shit I really should say something, cuz otherwise the interaction will die”…guess what happened? The only thing that came up was:
R: so what are you are here for? Any special occasion? –now this is one of my “back up questions” which said in an enthusiastic way can lead somewhere. In this case, what I really communicated even if the words didn’t come out of my mouth was :” do you have anything interesting to say to keep the conversation going?”… so the girl stepped one foot back, lost her attraction and had a hesitant look for the 1st time and said :
HBlatina : “oh I’m here with my friends! I’m going to see them, I’ll come back later!” we all know what that means.
Looking back on this interaction, I could isolate the girl at the bar for a drink or in a more quiet place where I could kino heavily. Or I could keep her against me and qualify her! Cold-read (you seem adventurous/fun/wtv) and ask her to tell me a story relating to that (what was the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done, craziest thing you’ve done in Montreal, favorite place you like to hang out/go to when you feel like having a good time). Then, all I’d have to do is relate to that and build common ground, telling her a story of my own, or rewarding her (hug, kiss on the forehead, grab her hand and start caressing,…)
All of this seems so easy on slow-motion, in the comfort of my bed!! It took me about 10 minutes to think of all this, analyzing the girl’s reaction and investment, whereas I only had a fraction of a second to react!
But then, Friday night arrived!!!
I met some friends at Philemon before heading to Confessional. Ran into a girl I had tried to bounce to her place a couple months ago and didn’t work out. She was all smiles and stopped a second to say hi and “so we keep running into each other a lot!” I went to her group just when I was about to change location but she was gone, oh well, I’ll see her around!
In confessional, an other girl appeared in front of me that I had spent the evening with at Santos. That night, she really was into me, but I was into her friend, so I had left her at the end of the night saying that we would see each other around cuz I hand out a lot in the old port…never thought I’d see her twice in the same week!-I had run into her and her friend on Monday while doing some daygame on ste-cath! That night at Santos I had learned my lesson to choose a target BEFORE opening the set! Now I go for the target as soon as I open the set, unless she has a maaassive bitch shield.
So at Confessional, Jezzamon and I were in the line up when 3 girls go up to the doorman and one of them tries to seduce the doorman to let them in without any luck. So they are standing in line and I tease her about not having any seducing skills, to which all of her group start laughing! We exchange a few sentences, after which the doorman calls them over and lets them in…grrrr. I reopen them later that night, go for the hottest one, we have fun and she’s responsive, her friends leave us some room to flirt, but I can’t manage to isolate –gotta work on that skill!!! I tried to kino and pull her into me, facing me, but she wouldn’t, so I just kept my arm around her lower back and we were standing next to each other, a little bit facing each other.
At that point, I didn’t know where/how to lead the convo and a few minutes later her friend pulled her towards her. Anyone who has an idea how I could have done this differently, mention it!! A guy did come over just when I opened the set, but he ejected himself after a couple of minutes so I now had the pressure to entertain the entire group…I knew she was in town for 2 days, from Miami, to visit her sister, where she was staying...
They were now sitting and facing me, bad positioning…I tried to engage the entire group and esp. her friends, but they weren’t enthusiastic, so I excused myself to go back to my friend. I went up to her again just before leaving for Le Rouge, wished her a good time while she’s in town. I didn’t try to see her again as I was out of town for the weekend.
Among other sets I opened at that bar, I used “happy friday night!”, “are you checking stocks? You must be rich!” when the girl is playing with her cell, “are you shy?” opener which has worked perfectly so far, esp. cuz the girl laughs every time. My wing opened a set with “do you know Rooster?”, but the girls, a 6+set, weren’t responding very well to this one. No idea why, but I find it harder to open a big set and get one of the girl’s attention, esp. on the dance floor. Any ideas?
The night ended at Le Rouge, we got there around 2 and the place wasn’t packed. I was really warmed up with all the previous interactions and felt confident as Jezzamon and I had a good night there the week before. We mostly spent the time on the dance floor, opening sets who were walking by. I opened a couple of girls who had a rose saying “ah you bought me a rose, how thoughtful!”. It’s after saying that that I realized a bf bought it to them ;)
I opened a HBgreek with “happy friday night!” and then she answered that she didn’t speak French, so I asked her – in English-if she spoke Spanish
• R: happy friday night! (in French)
• HBgreek: I don’t speak French, what did you say?
• R: happy friday night, do you speak Spanish?
• HB greek : no!
• R: and I don’t speak English! (in English)
• HB greek : hahahaha
• R: wow you must have a hard time communicating, how can you talk to people!
• HBgreek : (says something in greek, don’t have a clue what it is)
• R: I don’t speak Russian neither!
• Hb greek : it’s not Russian it’s greek!
• And we start a convo about Greece –I traveled there and I love it.
• Hb greek: wait, where are my friends?
• R: you don’t have to lie, you came here alone!
• Hb greek : haha! Noooo! Seriously, I can’t see them!
• R: I made them disappear!
• Hb greek : oh so you’re a magician!
• R : yes! You want me to do a magic trick?
• Hb greek : yes! (the friend comes over to grab her hand)
• R: pick a # between 1-4, don’t say it!
• Hb greek : (the friend is pulling hard but she wants to stay in set and is looking into my eyes)
• R: 3!
• Hbgreek: no! –and then her friend pulls her even harder so she has no choice to go! Gotta love girls…☺

Other sets we opened were with a dance battle, or just saying “hi! I’M rooster” and being friendly. Some sets wouldn’t be responsive or neutral, so I’d ask them who’s the best dancer and try to engage them this way, or tell them “ohhhh you girls are shy!” to try to create a reaction – they usually say no…, and then “group hug, you’re my new best friends”, and grab them all by the shoulders. They wouldn’t have any choice, but at the same time they weren’t actively involved so after this I would eject.
I realized, just like us guys, some girls don’t have any social skills, or are bored, or for wtv reason don’t want to talk at that moment. No big deal, move on, I’m having fun tonight.
So I drop Jezzamon at his place and I’m driving back home when I get a txt at 3,30 from a girl I had opened in the eaton center before Christmas!! Last time I heard of her was on NYE at 4,30 in the morning when she called me to tell me that I didn’t play my game right cuz I should have f*cked her the 1st night we met (I did the mystery’s 3 locations date spread over 3-4hours) instead of waiting for the 2nd night. I learned my lesson at that time that you jump on the train when it’s at the station!
So I picked her up and spent the night with her. Girls are funny.
The next day, Saturday, I’m heading to Ottawa to visit a girl I had picked up in a café 3 weeks earlier. We had gone for a drink that night, flirted but no KC, before she headed back home and stayed in contact since. I txted her on friday that I felt like coming to visit Ottawa and she agreed that I’d sleep on her couch and to be my guide.
So I show up around 6 at her apartment, but she makes me wait outside for at least an hour because she has to clean the place and shower! I already was an hour late! Girls are really funny. So I went to the Ottawa river, read and meditated before going back to her place.
I had all kind of scenarios in mind before walking through that door. Option 1: I ring the bell, she opens, I kiss her , take her by the neck and press her against the wall, tear her clothes off and the rest is history. Option 2: refer to option 1.
So before I walk in, she txts me that she’s in the shower but that the door is open and that I can watch tv while she finishes to get ready. Damn. That wasn’t in the options anticipated. So that’s just what I do, then she walks out of the shower and…she barely comes over in the living room to say hi. She’s walking all over the apartment, talking about her night on friday, doesn’t look at me, I can’t even get an eye contact. I figure she’s nervouuuus as hell. I’m nervous too. We open then bottle of wine I brought, have a glass, we’re sitting on the couch –it hurts to write this. It’s in a L shape, there are 2 3 seat sections with an armrest and a single seat in between these 2 sections, in the corner. She decides to sit in that single seat…I sit as close as I can but we’re still 1meter apart! All I’m thinking about is “how am I going to pull this one off”, ” com’on, command her to come sit next to you, be dominant”, “what if she doesn’t comply, it’s gona ruin the night cuz I’ll have shown my intentions right from the beginning”… so I don’t make a move and we’re starving so we go meet some of her friends in a restaurant. We head to 2 different bars that night with one of her friends before heading back home.
The entire night, there’s not really any playful interaction going on between us. I keep thinking “what should I do to make her attracted” or “what should I say to make this interaction funny” while I listen to what she’s saying –nothing really interesting.
I open a few sets that are around us at the bar to see her reaction and perhaps create some jealousy, but I feel like I’m holding myself back. I open some girls, high5s and light kino, but I don’t get into any big convo and so I don’t have any reaction from her. The night ends, we head back to her place and start a movie with the rest of the bottle of wine. Same situation as when I arrived.
However when we’re about to go to sleep, I grab her arm and tell her I would regret not doing this and pull her towards me on the couch. She resists, seems uncomfortable, so I stand up, look into her eyes and go for the kiss, she’s about to give me her cheek but then changes her mind and kisses me. I could tell she wanted to kiss me and was glad I did, but she seemed nervous. She’s about to walk back to her room, so I grab her again and pull her into me once more, kiss her again. Now that was even better than the one before, she’s turned on, and I want to get her screaming for the rest of the night. I smell her hair and whisper in her ear that I love her smell.
However, she pulls backs, tells me in a nervous voice “no rooster, I’m tired.” and then I was speechless for a second. I say “ok lets go to bed”, take her by the waist and lead her to her bedroom, but she says “sorry, I can’t”. I give her a hug and tell her “don’t worry we won’t do anything that we don’t want to” and wait for her reaction.- I should have lead her right after saying this instead… she refused and I had to sleep on the couch for the night. Damn it. Perhaps there wasn’t enough comfort and the gap from that kiss to her bed was wayyy to much for her. I had tried to kino her during the evening but she wasn’t receptive.
The next morning I wake up and she’s finishing to get ready, so I figure I’ll kiss her when she comes out of the bathroom when I say good morning, but she stayed far from me. I jump in the shower and then she’s already ready to leave her place and head downtown to eat. There were other moments where I could have gone for the kiss, of course. I’d like to know if her reactions during the w/e were because she wasn’t attracted to me or if it’s because she was too attracted, nervous and waiting for me to make a move. Compared to other girls, this one seems a lot more intimidated or uncomfortable with me being physically close to her or kinoing her. She’s 32, been in LTR before and now she told me she wants the whole package. She’s from the Philippines, close to her family and seems submissive – she really is more of a follower and doesn’t like to take decisions. Who could help with this one, any comments or things I didn’t see? She’s supposed to come back to Montreal in a couple of weeks to party –she has family here, logistics won’t be as easy.
That wraps up this 4th week of intensive PUA lifestyle!


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btw anyone knows how i can change my nickname to Rooster? this is the one i use in montreal.

thx!


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I learned my lesson at that time that you jump on the train when it’s at the station! [quote]

Funny and very honest analogy.

In regards to the filipino girl. With a woman who is getting up there in age, and was in an LTR that did not work out you have a few problems as a PUA. If your game is not spot on, and do not generate distracting sexual attraction, then she will be thinking about your long term potential only. Also they are just biologically and culturally wired to want a baby and longterm mate starting in the late twenties and up.

She also sounds kind of flaky, so as a beginner/intermediate you might have to spend too much energy time trying to get the close. Try more disinterest and play it by ear next time you see her. She might have just needed a little more comfort so go aggressive with attraction at some point again during her visit.

let us know how it goes dude. Montreal has some really smart and dynamic PUAs!


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it was interesting post. and I really liked your quote about the train. I made a mental note on that.

Yeah for the Filipino girl...I have similar opinion to Martialis.
Not too long ago, I met a Filipino girl from Toronto visiting Montreal with her friend, she wanted to have sex with me but her friend stopped us from doing it.
Either you do it that night when she's turned on and she feels like doing it, or when she wakes up, she will be too calm to even think about it anymore which means you're screwed.
Unless you're their future husband material, probably they won't even come back to you.

Also Filipino means Catholic, when they cool down they think they shouldn't have sex with random guy although if you've done it it's done, lol


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Thanks guys for the advice, it reinforces my idea that she needed more comfort. I got the feeling she needed to be reassured, but I didn't address the topic directly. Would it have been a good idea to ask her what made her feel uncomfortable, or that I felt like she was uncomfortable and then try to destroy her resistance? Any of you guys have done this before?

i can tell the girl is not a calm person, she's always on her cellphone or talking about whatever or walking around and can't sit still for too long or stay in the present moment. It happened a few times that I was able to get her into the present moment, but it was tough!

May 13, 2012

5th week of intense pick up! And a great thing is happening to me. I am noticing improvements where I need it the most!! Having fun and being happy while going out and interacting socially with people and women ☺

I am starting to feel like this PUA thing for me is a lot about spending enough time in social situations, bars or wherever, where I find myself opening faster to girls in recurring situations with the same openers w/o thinking about it, or reacting to comments or behaviors in similar ways. I am starting to see patterns appearing in the way people behave and in the way I respond to them. But most of all, it’s all about generating confidence from this repetition of similar interactions, knowing that I will have a good time and that I will have a pretty good idea how to behave so that I have fun –this term applies to laughing all the way to fucking-and others as well! I know I am working on my self improvement to test new and unknown areas of my game that make me uncomfortable, while having the relief to being able to rely on the auto pilot when I want to re-build my mental state.
Now for what actually happened during the week.

1st month of intense gaming is done, I feel somewhat more comfortable in bars and clubs. Wednesday night was at Rosalie, a high-end bar where girls are smokin hot. Opened a few sets who were walking by with direct openers and just introducing myself, then transitioning to “you’re my new best friend” and giving her a hug. Girls a often very opened and seem happy when I open them, more than I sometimes anticipate, so that’s always a confidence builder when I forget to tell myself how attractive I am.

But the lesson of the night was from a short convo I had with mercury. I told him that Cola was good at smoothly approaching and generating a convo while the girl seems interested. Then, he mentioned that he preferred to know it right from the very beginning if the girl’s into you, to not waste your time and then move on. It reminded me that being rejected can me considered a good thing and you can be grateful the girl for not wasting your time. It reinforced my feeling of not caring about rejection anymore. It’s not a bad thing, it’s a good thing!

Something else I learned that night, is to “work your way up” to the hottest girl(s) in the place. Open sets that are around them. Get attraction from them so that you build social value and generate attraction from the target. That was something I kept in mind on Friday!

Thursday was a day off, and on Friday I did some daygame, met Riddler who really stepped up his inner game from the last time we’d met. I could feel he was in the perfect state for daygame when we met, cuz I am in that same state from time to time when I do daygame and that’s when I get the best results! I approached about 5-6 girls that day, almost all direct, and was able to have a good 15minute convo with a girl to build comfort and NC her. We talked about where she’s from, what she likes about the city and what she would like to do or discover in Montreal, found some common grounds and tried to set a date the next day, but she was busy so I told her to give me her # and we’d hang out after her finals next week. After NCing I kept the convo going for a few minutes and then told her I had to get going. I thought about going for the kiss, but I didn’t cuz I figured she’d become a lot more flaky if I built up her temperature too quickly.

I thought of a way of approaching girls that don’t give you an eye contact or are in their bubble. Ask for directions or wtv, thank her and re-open her a few seconds later and this time going direct. For example,
R: Hi! do you know what’s the best way to go to the old-port from here? /closest metro station/closest starbucks/where’s xxxx street?
HB: blablabla
R:ok thx! – then let her walk for a few seconds
R: (going back up to her) Hi again! I know this is forward of me, but I would have regretted not telling you I find you very attractive/adorable/cute/wtv.

Then at night, I met with Jezzamon and we hit Confessionnal. I was in a great mood, opened many sets of girls who were standing next to us, or any hot girl I’d see while walking around. I got rejected a couple of times, about 20%, which was pretty good considering how many guys were there and how attractive they were.
When we got in the bar, we just stood by a table to observe what was going on and to see where the hb were. Then, I opened a girl who had just arrived as well while her sister was going to get drinks with the “are you checking stocks? You must be rich!” cuz she was on her phone. Qualified her when I asked her what other qualities she had since she wasn’t rich and she started qualifying herself! That was my 1st conscious attempt at qualifying a girl! Can you believe that! FINALLY! I had a hard time doing this cuz I was thinking that the girl would take this as an insult or be offended, that I’d appear as snob or wtv. I’m gonna try a LOT more of this qualification thing, cuz I loved the feeling of having the girl trying to get attraction from me!

The hottest girl in the bar, a tall asian classy long black hair fit big boobs tight ass nice dress you know who I’m talking about is standing close to the bar with her friends, a 5-set. We exchange eye-contacts a couple of times, so I remembered the advice of Mercury: gotta work your way up!! So, I opened the ugly girl first, obviously she responded very well and was friendly, then I was social and friendly with the nice friend who was getting married. After that, I opened other sets around us to get the asian’s attraction. And it worked big time!! She was giving me eye contacts even before I opened other sets, but she was giving me fuck-me looks after that! However, for 5-10 minutes, we hadn’t opened any sets, I hesitated for a few minutes, and then, booooom, they left!! I could tell they were not having the best time of their life. I missed it and didn’t get a second chance at opening her! She was H-O-T!! Damn. That was my low point of the night. At least, I got to experiment what “working your way up to her” is all about!! Going to repeat that soon!

I saw a friend I hadn’d seen for a while, right next to a HB9. Start talking with him, and then after a few minutes, go to the hb with the “are you shy” opener. It worked perfectly, but I didn’t know what to say to transition. She introduced me to her friend, I was in set, but had no clue what to say so I went back to talking with my friend. Now, I would go with the : “what’s your story?”, or “are you confident enough to accept a sincere compliment? Good, so am I! you go first!”.
Opened other sets with a group hug as well.

I spent saturday night with Jezzamon at Musique. We got there around 12 and it was packed with dudes… We opened about 5 sets each, on the dance floor and in the rnb room. Al the guys were standing against the wall and a couple of sets were around the bar, so we stood next to the bar for a minute and then opened a 5 set by saying hi and asking them how their night was going. I isolated a girl really quickly by turning her towards me, turning her back to her friends, and asking her if she was confident enough to accept a sincere compliment. I figured this works great for me to start qualifying the girl! The interaction was going in the right direction, I was doing kino, she was responding well. I asked her to tell me how all of her group knew each other in order to engage them all, but she didn’t understand this and she started asking me what I do blablabla, to which she was still well responsive. So after about 5 minutes, she asked me where my friends were… Jezzamon was right behind her so I introduced him, but he didn’t engage her friends and then the hb told me :
Don’t take this the wrong way, but it’s a girls’ night out.
I told her that I don’t see any girls here, only women, and this ended the interaction.

I wondered why she finished the interaction if it was going well. Thinking about it n ow, I figure it’s cuz she felt uncomfortable leaving her friends alone while she was flirting with a guy and all of her friends were observing us. Of course her friends are more important to her than a guy she just met, so I understand her reaction. This just made me realize how important it is to have a good wing who comes in and distracts the friends, or to engage the entire group after a few minutes alone with the girl.

We kept going around the bar, and I approached a 4-set with a dude who was chill and NOT cockblocking us which has been rare in the past weeks! A girl was making eye contact with me, so I oppened her with the “is your friends checking stocks? She must be rich?” and the girl told me to go ask her myself.
HB: No!
R: That’s too bad, I thought you were rich…so what other qualities do you have then?
HB: Ah that’s up to you to discover!

Then I went blank, so I just leaned back against the bar next to her and my friend, talking with him. Thinking of it now, I could have said something about her being a mysterious girl and someone who likes to tease guys, then transition to a story about a friend that I met in some trip around the world who was like that, and how we connected right from the first moment we met, blablabla.

So, we stayed in set for a couple of minutes, and the 1st girl I opened was dancing riiight in front of me, so I told her I thought she was adorable, and put my hand with the palm facing up for her to give me her hand to start dancing, but she said “not now, later!”, so I leaned back against the bar and waited a couple of minutes to see if she‘d come back to me, then left to open other sets.

We went back to the main room, but nothing much was going on over there except that there were too many guys. We approached a couple of sets which weren’t responsive, then we left to go eat and came back later to see if any other sets had arrived, but after a few minutes, we called it a night!
To sum up this week:
-1 NC in daygame with a hbindian
-feeling better at opening sets
- tested 2 ways to transition more easily into qualifying that I feel somewhat comfortable with.
- realized how easier it is to attract women when you’re with girls
- realized how useful a good wing is to be in a proper mental state and to wing you when you’re approaching hb in sets.
For the coming week :
- summer is there, hot women are everywhere on a sunny day, I’m spending more time enjoying downtown this week and approaching women!
- focus on transitioning into qualifying the girl
- get a better connection with the friends I’m going out with in regards to what we’re doing and how we’re behaving.
- invite girls to go out with us!


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Its was super fine from the outsider view for that NC, interaction is very solid, I really think that kiss was not necessary there. Was a good call on not forcing it.
However, a bit more kino would be better for a more solid date.

the body language was perfect and your are in a perfect state that day too. I would say that day is beautifull. May univers bless us with more day like that one.


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thx Riddler, I call her on Tuesday and proposed her to meet on Thursday, she said ok I'll txt u in the afternoon, but she never did. I didn't make any other move, if she wants to hang out she has my #.

May 21, 2012
Big change this week. Starting monday, I felt like crap. Didn’t want to go out anymore as I started feeling I was spending too much time chasing girls for the desire of fucking them, while not really enjoying the full process. It left me with the thought: how can I be happy with my relationships with women?
I had to go back to the reason why I started going out 3-4x/week. Sometimes it’s easy to lose yourself along the way.
I remembered that my original plan was to get comfortable in clubs, comfortable at opening women and at least decent at generating attraction and a conversation. Looking back on the crazy 5 week rally, I have accomplished the first 2 goals totally, and improved a lot on the other 2. I am at a point now where I have experimented with some tools to transition and qualify the girls.
I now consider qualifying the girl as one of the most important aspects of the my interaction with women. I don’t want to waste my time and energy gaming a girl just for the thrill of it and for her looks if I don’t have any esteem for her. I have experienced how empty I feel after sleeping or chasing girls that are meaningless to me. I am done with this. My time is precious.
I realized how important it is for me to be surrounded with people I share common interest and perspectives on life. The next step now is to focus on my passions. I wrote down my 5 top passions and I have them on the fridge, in my car, in my wallet,… I put more emphasis on these compared to other things meaningless to me. And have the courage to believe I am worthy of developing relationships with them, going for what I want because I know what makes me happy.
In the coming weeks, I’ll be going out perhaps 1x/week with some friends to have a good time, and I’ll open the sets that I feel I’ll get a good time interacting with them. AND qualify the target ASAP. Also, I’ll be pushing myself to invite the girls to do fun stuff with me to see them again and see where this leads us. Less pressure, not acting out of neediness, but rather from enjoyment and common values/interests/…
I already go to yoga 1x/week and there are some hot girls there with whom I already feel we get along. I want to go back to the meditation center on Laurier that I went to a couple of times last year and focus on this more. Especially during lunch time, it lasts 30 minutes and only costs 3$. And see if there’s anyone there that’s interesting. I’ll invite them for drinks or chilling in the old port, mont-royal,… all the while keeping the social vibe&no expectation I started developing.
For what happened this week, my roommate has a new hot Colombian friend, we went out for crepes and a beer with friends, going to the beach on Monday. We’ll see how this goes!


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I don't mean to sound an advertisement but you should take a CMP seminar next time your ready to invest in some training. It takes a more wholistic life approach as opposed to solely focusing on picking up hot chicks. The mechanics of approaching are solid, and you are put into contact with people who want to be better in all aspects of life.

RE: Yoga

Its awesome. I have been doing it in the heat for about three years now, and has brought so many great things like calming breath control, supportive environment, & fit chicks with delightful asses in spandex! lol

RE: Meditation

I have been focusing some time on this also. If you can, give a little review of the Laurier meditation center.


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thx for the books recommendations, I am 80 pages into Taoist Secrets of Love, and so far it makes sense for me with my past experiences, feelings and self development.

I would be glad to hear more from your personal work, how it's been for you, where you are at now, what changes you have seen in your life and what effects it's had on your interactions with yourself, with women and men.

About the CMP seminar,

is that a seminar that you are giving? Or is it given by a 79 y-o guru? ;) I've never heard of it before and can't find info by googling it.

I will post a review of the Laurier experiment ;)


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thx for the books recommendations, I am 80 pages into Taoist Secrets of Love, and so far it makes sense for me with my past experiences, feelings and self development.
Its funny that you wrote this because I did not recommend any books, but was thinking of doing it while typing a response. We must have some chakras communication lines open haha.
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I would be glad to hear more from your personal work, how it's been for you, where you are at now, what changes you have seen in your life and what effects it's had on your interactions with yourself, with women and men.
I have to say the main benefit is that yoga is a source of willpower, & sense of centeredness for me, as well as my martial arts practice. Gives me more courage to push through AA and my comfort zones. To be clear though, your AA will only diminish through lots of opening, yoga certainly is no magic bullet.
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About the CMP seminar
Its just a group I am affiliated with, and was quite impressed with the workshop. I do not teach, I speak as a student. The head instructor is quite young, a very charismatic, and powerful speaker with excellent opening skills(I only witnessed his daygame while in the field). Look up posts by ''The_Mack'' on this board for a better feel.


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Martialis : that's weird! I either read this in an other post, or this is just purely coming from my imagination, in which case I am scared!!!!

and yeah, I know the mack! had a few discussions with him and oliverking, i totally get their philosophy. i hung out a few times with Riddler too, who took a workshop with them, and i had good comments about it.

May 28, 2012

An other week of inner work for me! I discovered Taoism with a great book that someone recommended to me, Taoist Secrets of Love – Cultivating Male Sexual Energy, by Mantak Chia. It really makes sense with my personal development and I’m most grateful and thankful to him. It solved an issue that I had about satisfying basic sexual desires vs enlightenment. It turns out that there’s a way to reach enlightenment through your sexual practice, while utilizing this immense source of energy in your life instead of wasting it through ejaculation. The idea is to reach an orgasm without ejaculating.

So I haven’t masturbated in more than 2 weeks now, doing exercises 2x/day to work on my energy and sexual energy. Looking forward to seeing where this leads me!

I also got back into meditation about love, which I had let aside in the past months. I tend to get into better interactions with people as a result instead of feeling anxious. I focus on having a deep connection with the person I’m interacting with, focusing on the feeling that they’re having while we’re together, talking about stuff that matters to them, showing genuine interest. It’s not “nightgame”, but it’s the same inner work.

Next step will be to get into those meaningful convos with hot girls! For the short term (we’ll see how long this lasts), I decide not to sleep with a girl until I can master some of the Taoist techniques. A great step forward would be to practice some of this stuff with a girl who’s into it as well. I’ll probably find one at yoga or at the meditation center.

I put more of my energy on my work now, investing a lot of time on making the business grow. I meditate and work out every day – the results are there in both cases. I feel a LOT more grounded, centered and focused on what’s dear to my heart. I let the life I want to live grow bigger and bigger, one day at a time. I accept the moments of transition and of figuring out what I want and why it’s important to me, but now it’s really about going to get it.

One aspect of my life that I still have to work on is what I want from women as of now. I know what I’m looking for in any type of relationship, but I’m still unsure as to which type I want in my life now. I figure that I’m opened to anything that’s coming along.

The Lair Meeting was great tonight, a lot of eye openers for me. I got back in touch with the meaning of pickup for me and found out why I felt like crap 2 weeks ago. I now fully realize that I am complete as I am, that all the fun, excitement and love that I need is within me and that I don’t need to seek it from a woman. I don’t need to go out to feel better and more alive, I don’t need to wait until I meet a fun girl to have fun. I already have all of this inside of me, I am creating it on my own. Going out is about having a good time regardless of the outcome of the night. Now that this is more strongly internalized, I decide to focus on my priorities. Improving my skills at charming women by learning routines or catchy phrases (outer game) isn’t in the top 5 right now, so I’ll carry over all of the inner work that I’m doing to my pick up (inner game).

I am going back to yoga on Monday (it was closed last Monday), and I am going to the Kadampa Meditation Center this week at least once. I’ll keep practicing the Taoist exercises from Mantak Chia, meditate and work out daily.


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