Hey guys, I live in a new city, Greensboro, NC and only know a few people that rarely go out. Therefore when I do go out It's usually solo, now on slower nights this works fine because small groups of girls go out just to go out, but on the weekends, Fri and Sat, the groups are big, 4-8 sets half girls half guys, and many of the girls are on the dance floor, where I know I can't open. So, the big sets are apparently too big for me to close solo, tonight for example, and doing it solo it goes over very difficultly.

Please give me your thoughts everybody, I'm not sure where to find a new wing, and at 24 have always had decent successs with women, but what I'm running into now, I don't even really have a chance to run a lot of the game ive been working on.

Thanks

Do some of the mystery method. Take the set's attention by doing some canned openers (its a new city so probably they don't know these openers) while negging the target. Do some time constraint to make the boy's guards down. After that, ask this to a guy in the set"so how do you know each other (pointing at the target)?" from this point, you can ask a variety of questions to know if the target is single. if she is, do the 5 lie game routine. it works like this : The 5 questions game is a fun routine where the artist tells a girl that she has to lie five times and all they have to do is get all 5 questions wrong.

The wager: a drink.

The first three questions are easy, and each time she wins, you should make a defeated gesture such as “damn! I thought I had her!”.On the fourth question, the PUA improvs and look lost and confused.

Then, he asks in a confused demeanor, “Oh wait, wait… how many questions was that?” Since you’ve asked three questions so far, the girl usually would say a number other than three (i.e. they should lie to win). Some girls will trip up here and you can make fun of them.

This is becasue by default most people are helpful.

The fifth question, should she get the fourth one right is another trick question. If she gets question 4 right, the artist acts with shocked expression and say, “Oh no you’ve played this game before, haven’t you?!”.

This will prompt a yes/no reply. Since most people are egotistical or like to take the credit for being smarter than the artist, she will say, “no I haven’t!”. Hence she has lost because she replied honestly to the fifth question.- courtesy of Style (The Game)

this would serve as an isolation tool to get the target in another place. the rest is yours to take. btw, your best wing is your cellphone, if you are losing the set, pretend someone calls you then open another set. hope this helps

try opening one person, get that one person to introduce you to people in the group, doesn't matter if it is girl or guy

if you start noticing a pattern of people starting to close you out from the group, chances are you are comming off somewhat needy, or you are not projecting any value,

if it is neediness, just try breaking the rapport early in the set, talk to a few other groups, then come back and see if the set warmed up to you (how ever the best trick to this is simply don't be needy and you won't have this problem)

if it is value, work on your style, make sure you are all man-scaped up how ever you groom yourself, make sure you smell good, you want to be all fresh and clean, not all haggard and shitty, project an image of someone who looks like they are worth talking to, if you dress and look like your worth 10$ less people will want to talk to you, and you will be treated like someone worth 10$, always look your best and present your best foot forward when making first impressions

Yeah so I opened one of the girls in the group that I semi know but her friends were completely oblivious, and they are all law students so we're a sort of closed off group. And the "making sure I smell good and look better than $10" doesn't really apply, it seems to come down to social proofing and holding interest of a large yet fragmented group. Now earlier in the night this might be easier since the different groups will be more tenacious and talking, but the problem I was talking about was trying to do all this solo, without a wing. That is specifically what I'd like some advice on. I appreciate the 5 lie routine suggestion and feel I could work that on a 2-3 set, but nothing larger without a wing.