I don't care about romance, I'm trying to lay the pipe, lol.

What's this high status vs low status bullshit? If I sent you an ugly nasty girl and said, "She's hot man. Go for it!" would you believe me or would you make up your own mind about it?

Similarly if a girl said to another about the coolest guy in school "Oh you don't want him, he's a loser" Do you think she would buy it or would she observe him in action and make up her own mind about it?

If attraction is not a choice then why would a girl choose not to like you based on what other people think. It might factor in but honestly you are competing with a bunch of incompetent high school kids who follow each other around and are afraid to think outside the box which is exactly what it takes to get the hotties. The only thing these "higher status" guys have over you is 1. momentum and 2. they actually believe their own bullshit that they are something special. Women can smell that a mile away. If I were to switch places with you I would run the school in a matter of months. Doesn't matter what I look like.

Lastly you are concerned with building outer game meanwhile your inner game is coming out with nonsense that you are worth less than other guys. With your attitude it doesn't matter what you do or say. Eventually in the interaction you will slip and your true self will come out.

How many loosers do you think lie, spit game, act hot shit... But fail the first second it gets tough.

How many "popular guys" do you think sit around doing nothing and everything just comes naturally?

Do you honestly believe it's evolutionarily predetermined? That doesn't even make sense to me.

All I said was that women are evolutionary hardwired to be attracted to the higher social status males, the tribe leaders. And honestly it seems that at this place, if a girl said to another about the coolest guy in school "Oh you don't want him, he's a loser" she probably would buy it.

Plus the guys who have higher status than me have the perks that come along with it. They can throw parties, bring the booze, etc., and I don't even know how to get invited to the parties.

I mean don't get me wrong, I party, but not with the group of girls I'm targeting.

The way to get invited to parties is to be friends with the popular girls or to provide the booze.

Try making friends with the hottest girl you know. It's easier than you think. Just try and indirect game her. Don't go direct because she might just blow you out. Tell her you like one of her friends. Use that conversation as a way to DHV. Don't be AFC about it.

Then when you see her and all her friends walk up to them and say hello. Use the hotty as a pivot to meet the rest. Play it like a set. But make your goal to make friends except don't be scared to lose them. Same principal of pickup.

I'm don't go to parties. I don't even drink. I'm the guy that walks up to a group of girls and gives them each a hug. I'm just a friend so it's no big deal to them. But the odd time that there is a new girl and I hug each girl but her. She is automatically interested in me.

As far as befriending guys, it's about favors. You do them a favor, they do you one. It has to go both ways so one isn't using another. A trust relationship builds. Guys won't be shit testing you as much or anything so it's more finding commonalities and being yourself (you non chode self lol)

That's pretty good advice. I'll give it a try. I appreciate it.

There is certainly a time and a place for showing love and tenderness, and women appreciate it.

Saying something like "I am super tired, but I just wanted to stay up a while to talk to you" will not instantly relegate you to pathetic AFC status and immediately kill all attraction. It depends how you act and how you are in general. That one small text that your friend sent is probably not representative of their interactions as a whole.

You can send good morning texts, show tenderness and be an absolute sweetheart without becoming a needy little dweeb.

This is exactly why PUA shouldn't be taken so seriously.

1. This girl might just love his looks
2. This guy is obviously confident and sends out a vibe he's cool and not needy so what he said works.

If the guy was pretty low confidence and needy this line probably wouldn't have worked.

As the above poster said, you can still say things like this without being AFC, but you have to regulate what you say and how often you say it.

me: "hey gorgeous. u look upset. And it upsets me, to see a gorgeous girl upset."

HB: " i'm not upset. Just had a bad day at work. and today's my birthday."

me: "well, happy birthday. (shakes hand) here, let me buy u a drink (hold her hand, bring her to the bar)"

HB: (smiles) "awww thats so sweet of you thanks "

laugh and chat on the way to bar

Scenario 2:

AFC: " hi, uhm. u look really beautiful. and err u have nice legs. oh btw, my name is AFC. can i get u a drink? oh and uhm. and maybe we could go out some time too."

HB: "no sorry. i'm here with my friends."

AFC: " oh ok. nice meeting you."

walks away, dejected. wondering when he'll ever get some

scenario 1 i come across as charming, sincere and sweet. later at the bar i kiss close her and get her number. She later says that she really enjoyed her evening, and that i made her day that night. We text a bit more and i F close her on day 2.

secnario 2 the guy comes across as nervous, unsure of what to do and throws u drink as a consellation. the girl senses his lack of confidence, cant imagine a good time with him, and pushes him away.

there's nothing wrong with being nice to girls. its just that many people confuse being losery with being nice. Its the whole image u project and not just individual things u do. Game/mystery method just shows u one aspect that works, but there's really alot more to it than "not sucking up" to a girls ass.

but question though.

If thats ur friend talking to that girl, how'd u manage to get a photo of his conversation onto ur computer and onto the internet?

Because the girl posted it on Facebook so everybody could see "how sweet it was"

LOOL he's just a friend and lying to you about getting laid or she's just using him as a toy and he has no control in this relationship; never strive to be this guy

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That's what I'm saying. But no, he fucked her. I was at the party. Heard the noises and the bed thumping. That's what triggered this thread. Like how tf did this happen. I guess alcohol could have had something to do with it, but neither of them really drank that much.

Charblad said why. She could be desperate, getting revenge or whatever. You'll never know why. So stop focusing on others and just be yourself.