This thread may have gone under relationships, but I thought who better to judge IOC than an experienced PUA, that has been with, and expelled many women! (better than he found he of course).

I feel it is very important to find out early on, if this person has indicators of becoming a stalker, a cheater, a slut, or someone that may superglue you nuts to your leg in you sleep! for example.

Some times these IOCs may simply be shit tests, but we need to be able do differentiate!

Here is my example: Met HB at the bar all normal steps, take home and F-close.
Normal texting & convo follow ups.

Random public meet up, my kids are with me, polite convo, brief introductions. We part, I say hit me up later!

Two hours later I get a text!: Why does your family hate me?


Shit Test or IOC CRAZY?

This is a partial list:

1. “What woman doesn’t go a little crazy now and then?”
2. “I expect to be treated like a princess”
3. “I expect my man to put me first.”
4. “I like the finer things in life.”
5. “I’m not a drama queen” or “My friends think I’m a drama queen.”
6. “All of my ex-boyfriends/ex-husband(s) are jerks.”
7. “I don’t talk to my father.”



PLEASE ADD to this list for further identification of crazy's!

Thanks for your help!

Heywood

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A chick that cries after you fuck her "It's never been so wonderful"...

Tears? I just met you and you're crying? Yeah - fuck that!

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I fully agree with you

-Texts continuously regardless of whether there was a response.
-Talks of the future together early on.
-Gets jealous when there is not a relationship.
-Try and stay over your house after you have to go to work (one of the reasons I don't bring them home).


Everyone goes a little crazy when their emotions own them and that is usually what happen when a woman likes you a lot. They have irrational behaviors from a certain stand point but from the stand point of someone who is overcome by positive emotion when it comes to someone they obviously have little control over negative emotion as well. We have all done some pretty stupid stuff.

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I had a girl cry once after i slept with her weirdest thing thats ever happend to me can you tell me why this happens i thought i must of gave her a shit lay or something.

I thought she was just a 1 in a billion or something like that or maybe she just thought she was a slut or somethin

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Wholly shit this is deja vu, poetic has it right but i will add(do not wish psyco, stalkers on my worst enemy) but when you get them you know your game reached, next level:

Women that follow you around...

Women that do not get the hints

Women that show up unannounced

women that get your Parents numbers and call them

women that create fake facebook myspace accounts, and request your friends too get info. see pics etc...

women that fake PREGNANCIES and ABORTIONS...

women that beat and harass the current girls you are seeing

women that go by or call your job...

women that get into your email acct. and/or passwords

Guys no joking around DO NOT DATE psychos or stalkers they will ruin you or fuck up your life and in some cases even get you kill... If they give you psycho/stalkers vibes do not fuck them more than 3 times...

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So true! The saddest part of it all is these "crazy" bitches are usually the best in bed and usually have a lot of sex appeal.

If you are like me and like to fuck the crazy ones, it would be wise to find out how to identify them early on, then get in and out as fast as possible. 1/2x's maximum. Anything over that is gambling. If you must! It's best to spread it out over time and stay distant enough to not build any type of emotional connection.

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911.... we sound way too alike LOL

I have a chick I'd known in HS, I hit her up online and met her. 4 days later, she dropped the L word. We'd dated not even 6 weeks, and I ended it... It took me over a YEAR to get her away from me.


7 out of 9 of Skills' list - she did.

But I'm with you - the crazy as fuck ones are usually fucking stellar in bed - and I'll risk it. SOME crazy turns me on, I admit - I'm fucked up like that... but DAMN.

I used gambits for the exit. I'd ramped up sexual fetishes with her, told her I'd not be with her unless my friends could fuck her too... she agreed. I told her I wanted other women - she agreed. I told her I wanted to make movies and show my friends - SHE AGREED... But - whenever time to DO IT, she flaked, but wouldn't stop leaving me the fuck alone.

I finally invited her in to town (She lives 2 hours away), fucked her, got her out of here and told her 3 days later I was in love with my ex-wife, then saw my ex-wife 2 weeks later (fucker her too, thank you), had pics taken of us both together, sent them to the crazy chick and VIOLA! She told me to fuck off - FINALLY!

Drastic measures had to be taken. I usually would keep it working, but THAT level of crazy is unhealthy and boiling rabbits can't be far behind!

RR

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From my experience of IOC's

-Breaks into your flat by tailgating your SPAM and you find her there wondering around. Like, "oh, hey?". Will also have bizarre/authentic reasons to invite themselves over, once knew a girl who asked if she could 'use my tv' so she could play her old playstation games on it? Wow.
-Overtly religious Christian parents can either make a girl have commitment issues/very particular criteria, because most men will be seen as potential husbands, "By the way, are you confirmed? My parents wouldn't approve of me marrying a catholic", or just batshit crazy.
-In my experience, the girls that were always begging for your dick can turn out to be stalkers a few weeks down the line.
-Tries to enter your social circle even when you try and signal she's not welcome there. Gets buddy with your friends, etc.
-Insane mood swings, sometimes from non-sexual and dismissive to extremely horny.
-Information junkies, weirdly have nothing to say about themselves but have a sh7tload of questions to ask.

You know what's funny is I've never kept a crazy long enough to gain any of that shit skills lol. Not once. I've fucked some crazy girls but I knew it pretty early on, so I knew what it was. Of course I don't keep any girls around, I have a goofy motto when people ask me "Get in, get out, get on your way." It's actually not an official motto but I seem to follow it pretty closely for it not being one. Considering I never call them back and pretty much tell them straight up. Did this to a woman I kissed the other night at the club. She said "You got my number, are you going to call?" I laughed straight up said "Probably not."

I just don't keep women around for more than a couple of screws with the exception of a few very mature fuck buddies I've had, they were fun and the relationship was very forward and open. You just shouldn't keep women around unless you know they are worth dating, that is easy to tell up front. The crazier they are the less emotional control they will have in the beginning.

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^ it will happen eventually poetic specially if you date them for a period of time and then you end it, but as sexaddict says some of them are really good in bed, so you get greedy and keep them around, or they do your laundry, cook etc...Even the normal ones if they get close to you emotionally and connect, can get there...It will happen to you eventually, if you stay long enough doing this...

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I have been blowing off this crazy, for a week now
And even to the point of being rude
This only seems to be exacerbating the problem

I think I'll just bone her again, on the DL!

Prior to the last hook up, she had not had sex in about a year, needless to say, it was extreme!

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Take a walk on the wild side Heywood!

I'm humming the song now....



RR

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@ RR Hey why not!

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