What makes a mediocre wing better than say a good/great wing? Or have I read this wrong?

Im genuinely interested! The wings I've met with are way better than me, I'm new to speaking to girls in clubs and they just zoom off as soon as we're in there!

wholly crap now i am confused... isn't a wing some type of friend, or does it has to be a community dude?? Because wm has the right answer.. With that being said solo sarging is just awesome....

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You're days will go by much easier by ignoring his posts. Of course a wing is a friend. Its a friend who will mack girls with you.

Solo is fun too Although I'm not good enough at night to really have any success alone yet

I really wish the community would drop all the cult like speech and just use normal English. Would clear up a lot of confusion about many things.

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Skills, lemme throw out my idea of a wing out there.

Technically, by PUA definitions, a wing is somebody that helps you out in gaming women. From just pumping you up, to keepign you from making excuses, to distracting fat friends. But usually when somebody talks about this...it's mutual. Yeah, that guy helps you, but you also help him. Think Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson in Wedding Crashers, where each guy backs the other up with their backstory to get into the wedding, reminds the other how awesome they are, but they dont' get in eachothers way.

Me? I dunno if I need a wing, but it would be nice to have someone NOT on the internet who at least views the world in a similar way. sucks to go out, see a cute girl, and have a buddy list all the reasons why NOT to talk to her.

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Running a multinational. billion dollar corporation and having it remain profitable over time is not tantamount to hooking up with a chick when you go out. Again dont blame a lack of a good wing on not trying

Well said DJ. +1

I have been lucky enough to have perfect wings when I was younger. It can be a powerful thing if you and your wing(s) can operate in unison. You can feed off each other's cues and create attraction as a whole.

Women are rarely alone especially in a social setting, there is often a need for at least one good wing.

If you don't have any such friends, it doesn't mean you can't find any. Especially at clubs. In a sense you could use your pua knowledge to " pick up" a wing. People in general are very friendly. If you meet someone that has a good energy, a positive vibe and seems to match you or attracts a lot of women, make friends with him and invite him out to pick up women with you. You'd be surprised how many dudes are out there looking for a wing.

In my opinion being social in a social environment is critical in fast forwarding the PUA process. The more friends you make, the bigger your circle gets. The bigger your circle gets, the more opportunity to move freely within the masses.

Being that guy that knows everyone is HUGE for picking up women.

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I thought rule #1 was... "don't talk about fight club?"

Solo pick up is generally the way to go, especially if you have great social skills and can make friends anywhere. Or at least extremely comfortable being alone. But if you are just starting out and not overly social, you are not going to be able to do this without giving off an odd vibe.

I believe solo sarging comes within the learning process as your confidence builds, so does your ability to go on your own ( arrive alone).

With all that being said, the perfect scenario for beginners would be to have a couple of wings, but all of you go your own ways ( solo) Keep visual tabs on each other, and signal each other if you are in need of assistance. ( ie: with a set)

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Quoted for truth.

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A wing doesnt have to be from the community but it sure is nice with someone to discuss things with. What do you need your wing for? Opening sets or learning PU?

My best sarges have all been when Ive been flying solo.

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bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

^ that... Here is the problem #1 sometimes you and your wing wants the same girl, then what if you want to be in one place and your wing wants to go to another place, then sometimes a wing can give you approach anxiety, sometimes your wing can lower your value(guilt by association)... With that being said if you have the RIGHT wing/friend, a dude with skills then is a plus, is not the same me going to a club lets say with wm, sexaddict, ezo, little panda than me going to a club lets say with puamoviemaker, 40 year old virgin juan and the likes... And even with guys with skills in my experience sometimes they make shit harder due to different styles of game... Like lebron james and Wade... Last year excellent players but no in sync...Do you imagine 60 yoc winging mystery lol...

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After going out loads with some of my wings we became friends as well. Can't happen with all of them and I'm not saying it is necessary but it does help you. On the other hand you don't wanna go out only with wings. I'd say once you get good results start going on your own. I've had lots of situations where I don't want to be with wings and if I didn't had times where I'd go out on my own I'd end looking for them like they do if I leave them alone and their target rejects them.

One drop side of having a wing is that you can sometimes talk a bit too much between yourselves!! When its fun i mean not when you're doing it to procrastinate on the approaches.

What buddy's go around listing reasons not to approach a girl? This is unheard of in my time. More like you're with friends and you use them as excuses not to approach or you THINK of what reasons they'd say rather actually not.

This is personal experience though. Peace.