The small interactions were recommended as the first stepping stone to a better/social man. The problem with many aspiring puas is that they try to rush everything, get overwhelmed, and their progress can come to a halt, or they end up becoming keyboard jockeys...Maybe since this sub-forum is not meant for beginners (I forgot that) I should have skipped that part. I just wanted to mention it because many can't imagine themselves being social due to their past experiences, and I wanted to show that there are no risk steps into slowly achieving that goal.

Anyways, there have been studies that show playing soccer when you're young will teach you a lot of the social aspects in real life. Things like teamwork, sharing the ball, having others compete to beat you, foul play and how to handle it, unfair judging, etc. Regardless of when you started playing sports (or if you never cared for it), it's one of the reasons I recommended joining an activity. As long as it's not a video game club type of things since you will be surrounded by awkward kids who will not teach you any good social aspects in life.

Traveling is also important, and it's something warped mindless mentioned recently as well. It helps build your self identity, gain new experiences and get out of your comfort zone. All this will improve your social/pua life and will make you more natural overall.

Most of this stuff and 'poles' of the sexual/social spectrum becomes incredible obsolete when you are out chatting up girls.

^ thank you! the problem with social game, is that you fuck one of the girls of the group you are pretty much done, or is super uncomfortable...

I have seen this over and over again in one of my social groups, people hook up, get out of the group, break up and one or the other leave the social group... Gaming strangers, is the name of the game, of course much more skills needed, way harder too do... And you still have to apply the elements of social game... In social gaming you can not be that aggresive either... Social game = WASTE OF TIME(unless your goal is a long term gf, marriage)... The nay sayers say "oh you can not do social game" therefore your life sucks you are alone, talking about ignorance...

I'm not sure where the disconnect is here. You want to focus on "PUA settings" only right and how to familiarize yourself in clubs, etc. Well by having a good social life, you will better understand human interactions. To improve your pua skills, you just gotta get more field experience. That's how everyone else that's great have done it.

If clubs are your regular pick up spot, then -in a nut-shell- it makes sense to know what its like to be a clubber. If you decide that clubs and bars are the best spots for you to pick up -but have never really gone clubbing before- then its worth investing in some time just "clubbing" before you attempt to learn how to apply pick up to that environment.

The point is that field time provides you with one angle of the environment because you end up following the same set of patterns. By understanding how the interaction feels in a broader sense you get a better picture of how you are going to fit in as a PUA.

If clubs are your regular pick up spot, then -in a nut-shell- it makes sense to know what its like to be a clubber. If you decide that clubs and bars are the best spots for you to pick up -but have never really gone clubbing before- then its worth investing in some time just "clubbing" before you attempt to learn how to apply pick up to that environment.

lol that's easy. People go to clubs to dance, drink, hang out with friends and have a good time. The biggest reason though for men is to interact with women, whether it's dancing, talking, making out and escalating fast, etc. The regular guys who just go there for "clubbing" usually fail at picking up women successfully or at least, they are not consistent. A pua keeps learning, while having fun. He exceeds in conversations with women then regular clubbers. He has better vibe, intuition, etc.

Youy should check out skills360's thread on club game because he does what you are looking for, which is going to clubs to enjoy the experience (dancing) while also going to pick up women.

The point is that field time provides you with one angle of the environment because you end up following the same set of patterns. By understanding how the interaction feels in a broader sense you get a better picture of how you are going to fit in as a PUA.

If clubs are your regular pick up spot, then -in a nut-shell- it makes sense to know what its like to be a clubber. If you decide that clubs and bars are the best spots for you to pick up -but have never really gone clubbing before- then its worth investing in some time just "clubbing" before you attempt to learn how to apply pick up to that environment.

lol! thanks for the plug, but is mr. matt club game threat not mine....

Thanks for the response Psychotic, but "trying to hard" is really the wrong term. The problem is much more fundamental than "trying to hard" more often than not it is "trying the wrong thing at the wrong time in the wrong way" thanks to a general lack of social experience.

Arguably what you are doing when picking up goes in 3 steps.

1. Enter social interaction and create a positive vibe that warrants you being there.

2. Socialise and seduce the people you want to pick up by applying some sort of strategy.

3. Arrange for an extraction and fuck.

These guys know the "strategy", they've had it described to them a million times in forum posts and SPAM conferences but what they don't understand is the socialise part. So they are trying to operate in an environment that they have little in-depth experience with and end up applying pick up tactics in a way that they were never intended.

Simply said. You can't teach someone how to swim by explaining to them the rules and tactics of under-water hockey. At the end of it you are just going to get someone who knows the lingo of under-water hockey, sucks at it anyway and can't swim.

For many of you out there struggling with under-water hockey, why not take the time to learn how to swim first?