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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:27 pm 
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When you say you're "real" in your first post.. you mean, like, "a real AFC", like stated in your second post? Sorry, I don't get it.


Anyways, did try 1 on the newbie mission yesterday, but didn't get out any "Hi" that was loud enough for anyone to hear. Which I am a bit pissed about at myself.
BUT, I did a lot of eye contact and smiling, which is mopre than I used to. So no reason to get discouraged, I'm gonna try again until I get the hang of this.

Next round today!

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:13 pm 
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Just did the mission yesterday. Have to say, it went pretty well. At first I felt awkward saying hi to a girl passing by (it felt especially weird saying hi if we hadn't made eye contact) but once I got into the swing of things my anxiety went away. I was surprised at how many girls smiled and said hi back. Made me realize just how stupid my AA is.

My only regret was that I did this on mother's day. The mall was pretty much dead. So I'm definitely giving this a second go, when more girls will be around.


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just a real guy like all ya'll....i love women, love when they suck my dick....and im gonna figure out this attraction thing or die in the process! Don't give up fellas!


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Ok. I did my first NEWBIE MISSION this afternoon. :lol:

Although I wouldn't say it was a total disaster i wouldn't say it went well either.

Best part was I was pretty relaxed and unintimidated about the whole project. Mostly little girls and wives and girlfriends or familly types out and about which was off putting. Didn't want to piss off some guy by hitting on his wife or whatever.

Pretty much every time i made eye contact with anyone they would avert their eyes before I said anything. I could have still said hi but i didn't.

So the ones i did say hi to or smile at were probably HB1 if that. And that was it really. I could have done better. BUt i'm totally ready to do that kind of thing anywhere and everywhere basically.


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So I can't say I haveexactly done this mission, but I'm very used to waving at random people and saying hi to people, and I would say a lot of people in the south are like this. I'm in a town right outside of Florida's capital and it's strange if you don't greet people around town. But I went to a wrestling camp in Minneapolis, Minnesota and I always walked by people greeting them and saying hello and they would give me a "leave me alone" kind of look. It was the wierdest thing because MOST of the people responded this way. Maybe they just don't like southerners :o


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Well, i just came back from my newbie mission and found out a couple of things:

first, if i say hi knowing that thats all im gonna say it comes out like a whisper and they barely notice me ( or ignore me )
If i say it knowing im gonna make her do a test, i say it confident and make her do the test, but after that im not sure where to go so i just kiss her goodbye ( in argentina we kiss goodbye). But with one i got several IoI, she kept looking me in the eyes, she asked my name, and after i did the cube test on her i let the conversation die and she started it up asking if i was studying psicology, but lame as i am, i forgot ( not afraid, not i didnt see them, FORGOT ) to ask her phone number, i just said well thank you good bye. after a minute i proccesed it all and was like FUUUUKKK lol, on top of all she was hb 9.
any thoughts on what should i change, or what should i do to improve my game? how exactly do i know when to ask her phone numbre ( since it was a mall i didnt thought i should kiss close)
sorry for any grammar mistakes


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I tried this today. Failed pretty badly. As in I couldn't work up the courage to even say hi to one person (not counting girls working at the stores). I knew this would be hard for me since I have and always have had terrible AA, but I did learn a few things. I realized I kept rationalizing not saying hi to people walking by ("she's kind of old" or "not attracted to her" among others) but the whole point of this is to just say hi to build confidence. But I think I also realized how important it is to just turn my brain off and go for it.

I also went later as the mall was closing, so that was a mistake of mine since there weren't a lot of people. But I'm going back to college tomorrow and I am determined to try again and just go for it. Plus I know any rationalization I make on campus will be BS since my college is about 60-65% girls with tons of cute girls. While I know I sucked it up today, I'm going to try every day next week when I'm on campus. I want to be able to do this with no hesitation and even try a few openers.


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I decided to give this a try and I have to say that the Mall mission was very difficult for me. It's Memorial Day weekend and the malls are packed, but as easy as the newbie mission sounds, it's tough for me. Two reasons, one is a lame excuse and the other, in my opinion, is valid. The lame excuse - There are so many people and none make eye contact. It feels very strange saying hi to someone while they are walking through the mall. The second excuse is that I'm a 39 year old public school teacher in a mall full of students (both current and former). I didn't see many attractive females over the age of 18 and the last thing I need is to come off as pedo to a student that recognizes me. I tried doing this on Saturday and again today at a different mall. Very difficult for me.

Fortunately, I'm reading Rules of the Game by Strauss. His first assignment is to make small talk with 5 random strangers. Male/female/young/old...doesn't matter. So I tried this. I had to hit two grocery stores for some supplies. Since the second mall was also close by I decided I'd hit it as well.

My five victims:

Grumpy old man - I hit him easily as I entered the 1st grocery store. Moving slowly, I said hi and asked him how he was enjoying Memorial Day. He was friendly enough but seemed to think all days run together anymore. I immediately said aloud, "That's one!".

Cute 17-18 year old HB7 - To say I made small talk with her is stretching it. I donn't want to come off as pedo since she could be a high school kid. We intersected at the checkout lines and I said without making eye contact, "I can't figure out which one is the express lane". Totally lame, but I'm trying. She doesn't seem to respond.

Cashier at grocery store 1 - He worked at another store that was recently shuttered and so I mention that to him. He proceeds to rant about how the chain is treating him and he's now driving 40 miles round trip to get here. This guy's not a complete stranger, but since I never really had a conversation with him I grudgingly include him in my assignment.

Girl working a kiosk at the mall - I'm standing in between kiosks checking my phone when this HB 7 Israeli chick asks me where I've been her whole life. I quickly look over her kiosk to make sure she's not trying to sell me something and figure that since it's mostly girly shit I may have stumbled on a gold mine. We go back and forth about how I've been working, but I'd gladly fly her to Australia with a stop in New Zeland. She asks what I do, we speak a little Spanish and I'm thinking this can't be real, but my bullshit detector hasn't gone off. Long story short, she wants me to sit down so she can demo some skin cleanser. I'm like, FUCK!!! I politely let her do a little while I'm trying to figure out how quickly I can get out of this shit. The whole time I'm thinking this girl just played the game on me. She had a great opener and even negged me a little (apparently my skin is red and so I need to buy this shit). She eventually asked about my wife and I said yeah I'm married (lie), "Your wife will love this". I tell her I don't want to waste her time and I'm not buying anything, "Your wife will love this". I tell her I'll bring her back and if she likes it I'll buy some. Don't hold your breath. (EDIT: I just reread this and realized a perfect line might have been, "Let's get a drink tonight and I'll come back tomorrow and buy some of this"...would that have worked?)

Married couple looking at POS ice cream novelty at Macy's - I decided I had to try one more time before leaving the mall. I run through Macy's just trying to get a positive experience so I won't leave on the kiosk experience. I over hear a man telling his wife that he's not sure about this machine and they should probably just buy some Blue Bell. I quickly interject that they'd probably save money buy sticking with Blue Bell. The husband laughed heartily and the wife didn't say much. I exit as quickly as possible and figure it's time for a beer.

As I'm having a beer and feeling sorry for myself for having a shitty outing it occurs to me that Neil's homework was simply to make small talk with 5 random people. Even if they grunt or say nothing at all, just the attempt counts. I decide that the day's not a complete waste and head to grocery store 2 to try and get one last victim. The grocery store is pretty dead but at the checkout I tell the cashier, "It stinks to have to work on Memorial Day, huh?". She says yes but she's only there until 7. I agree, saying she at least gets to enjoy some of her day.

So all in all I make small talk with 5.5 people (the high school girl at grocery store 1 only counts as a .5). It's not as easy as it sounds, but I think I'm off to a decent start. Not sure what Style's homework will be for day 2, but hopefully the learning curve is gradual.

Any thoughts?


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I just walked up to any girl and asked what time it is. Looking a them in the eye and smiling.

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I have just read this post today and realized I have been doing this for the past three weeks. I have been trying to say hi and strike up a conversation with people every where I go. I have been doing quite a bit of situational openers at a sandwich shop, clothing store, and at the bus stop. I actually just walked by this girl outside and just smiled and waived at her since she was on the phone. She was looking my direction and waived back. People are generally pretty nice. I didnt think about doing this at the mall and I go to the mall almost every other day during the week for lunch or breakfast because its close to my work. I feel I am working my way up to this point. I think I would feel more comfortable if I had a friend with me. If I go to the mall I'll be by myself and I think the idea of this kind of freaks me out more than the actual approaching.


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Well went on newbie mission by myself on monday and tuesday, as for the results I think it was a great confidence booster, I was a little nervous at first but i said to myself FUCK THE NERVS I AM GOING FOR IT , I got alot of hi's back and some that did not ,but had a few good conversations as far as the eye contact goes it was hit and miss some said hi when i made eye contact some did not, some said hi and could not even look me in the eye when i smiled and said hi but they did blush and say hi, as for the the ones that didnt say hi to bad for them i could care less . I think this is a great way to get out of your comfort zone . the stats went like this
approached 33
21 said hi
12 did not say anything and keep walking
4 stoped and had converstations
got 2 numbers will see if there not flakes


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I decided to give this a try and I have to say that the Mall mission was very difficult for me. It's Memorial Day weekend and the malls are packed, but as easy as the newbie mission sounds, it's tough for me. Two reasons, one is a lame excuse and the other, in my opinion, is valid. The lame excuse - There are so many people and none make eye contact. It feels very strange saying hi to someone while they are walking through the mall. The second excuse is that I'm a 39 year old public school teacher in a mall full of students (both current and former). I didn't see many attractive females over the age of 18 and the last thing I need is to come off as pedo to a student that recognizes me. I tried doing this on Saturday and again today at a different mall. Very difficult for me.

Fortunately, I'm reading Rules of the Game by Strauss. His first assignment is to make small talk with 5 random strangers. Male/female/young/old...doesn't matter. So I tried this. I had to hit two grocery stores for some supplies. Since the second mall was also close by I decided I'd hit it as well.

My five victims:

Grumpy old man - I hit him easily as I entered the 1st grocery store. Moving slowly, I said hi and asked him how he was enjoying Memorial Day. He was friendly enough but seemed to think all days run together anymore. I immediately said aloud, "That's one!".

Cute 17-18 year old HB7 - To say I made small talk with her is stretching it. I donn't want to come off as pedo since she could be a high school kid. We intersected at the checkout lines and I said without making eye contact, "I can't figure out which one is the express lane". Totally lame, but I'm trying. She doesn't seem to respond.

Cashier at grocery store 1 - He worked at another store that was recently shuttered and so I mention that to him. He proceeds to rant about how the chain is treating him and he's now driving 40 miles round trip to get here. This guy's not a complete stranger, but since I never really had a conversation with him I grudgingly include him in my assignment.

Girl working a kiosk at the mall - I'm standing in between kiosks checking my phone when this HB 7 Israeli chick asks me where I've been her whole life. I quickly look over her kiosk to make sure she's not trying to sell me something and figure that since it's mostly girly shit I may have stumbled on a gold mine. We go back and forth about how I've been working, but I'd gladly fly her to Australia with a stop in New Zeland. She asks what I do, we speak a little Spanish and I'm thinking this can't be real, but my bullshit detector hasn't gone off. Long story short, she wants me to sit down so she can demo some skin cleanser. I'm like, FUCK!!! I politely let her do a little while I'm trying to figure out how quickly I can get out of this shit. The whole time I'm thinking this girl just played the game on me. She had a great opener and even negged me a little (apparently my skin is red and so I need to buy this shit). She eventually asked about my wife and I said yeah I'm married (lie), "Your wife will love this". I tell her I don't want to waste her time and I'm not buying anything, "Your wife will love this". I tell her I'll bring her back and if she likes it I'll buy some. Don't hold your breath. (EDIT: I just reread this and realized a perfect line might have been, "Let's get a drink tonight and I'll come back tomorrow and buy some of this"...would that have worked?)

Married couple looking at POS ice cream novelty at Macy's - I decided I had to try one more time before leaving the mall. I run through Macy's just trying to get a positive experience so I won't leave on the kiosk experience. I over hear a man telling his wife that he's not sure about this machine and they should probably just buy some Blue Bell. I quickly interject that they'd probably save money buy sticking with Blue Bell. The husband laughed heartily and the wife didn't say much. I exit as quickly as possible and figure it's time for a beer.

As I'm having a beer and feeling sorry for myself for having a shitty outing it occurs to me that Neil's homework was simply to make small talk with 5 random people. Even if they grunt or say nothing at all, just the attempt counts. I decide that the day's not a complete waste and head to grocery store 2 to try and get one last victim. The grocery store is pretty dead but at the checkout I tell the cashier, "It stinks to have to work on Memorial Day, huh?". She says yes but she's only there until 7. I agree, saying she at least gets to enjoy some of her day.

So all in all I make small talk with 5.5 people (the high school girl at grocery store 1 only counts as a .5). It's not as easy as it sounds, but I think I'm off to a decent start. Not sure what Style's homework will be for day 2, but hopefully the learning curve is gradual.

Any thoughts?
Nice write up. Keep trying


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Ok, finally had the "balls" to do this today. But I'm having a slight problem. My hometown is not pretty big :/ Today afternoon I was walking around the town and noticed that there were not so many people around :D It was almost impossible to find any people of my age (18-22). And basically I know about 80% of the people in my age group.

But then I asked myself that do I want to get in my car and drive home as a loser? NO. I started to walk around the town. To be honest there was a lot of people I didn't say hi to, mostly because of some excuse I made up. These excuses were something like: "Too ugly", "too old", "that's a man" and "too busy". Totally I managed to say hi to 4 (2. 30-40 women, 1 random dude at bus stop, 1 17years old girl) people, which I feel was a fail. But in the end I walked around the whole town just looking for some nice looking people to say hi. Probably should hit a mall 30 minutes from here to do the same.


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Hi I'm new here. I went out and attempted the newbie mission today. I spoke to quote a few people, my main issue was that I have trouble saying anything to people if they're not looking directly at me. Any tips/suggestions for either overcoming this or getting more people to look directly at me I guess?


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Hi I'm new here. I went out and attempted the newbie mission today. I spoke to quote a few people, my main issue was that I have trouble saying anything to people if they're not looking directly at me. Any tips/suggestions for either overcoming this or getting more people to look directly at me I guess?
Even if people are not looking directly at you, you are in their peripheral vision if you are physically close enough. When you're passing by, and if the person is not looking directly at you, turn your body toward them while you're walking, look directly at them, and say hi. They will catch you in their peripheral vision and the normal response would then be to look directly at you. They may not say hi back if they weren't looking at you first, but that's not the point of the mission anyway.


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