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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:51 am 
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Hi. I'm 27, and a physics graduate student living near Des Moines IA.

OK, right to it, my goals are: A. being authentic, carefree, and fun B. having cool, easy-going, open-minded, close friends, C. enjoying the company of women, and D-Z. getting laid. Eventually I want a long-term relationship, but want the adventure and variety that's supposed to come before it too.

I heard about the community by reading The Game. My age and lack of success have made this a high-priority item. This is summer for change. I'm prepared to hit the DSM night club scene every weekend. Haven't been in this long. I have no "stack" or material, or past experiences to build on. I did go out the past two weekends though:

1st night: Went to Liars, a stylish, but sleezy club in downtown DSM. I was overcome by approach anxiety. I circled the club, visited the bathroom, and then sat by the bar. Shortly thereafter I got chewed out by some douche whose seat I "stole". Discouraged, I left. Shit night.

And next weekend: Better. I worked myself into an upbeat, blithe, "whatever" sort of mindset. But I could hardly stop MOVING. It was guerrilla approaches on altogether 12-14 groups (over 2 nights/40 min). I didn't know any material, so I threw out random comments ("is there a band playing inside there? ... you girls don't look country ... hey, if your going up to the bar, buy me my drink ... you don't want to go to that club 'cuz you can see the lights are on.") With a smile!. I only get dismissed by 1-2 sets, but I ejected within 1-3 min of the others when my word bank went empty.

It's a start. Those nights were to say "I'm doing this. I'm committed." And I I am. I would love if I could find someone to wing with me. It's hard to push yourself, and get feedback, and share and have fun w/o a wingman. (Anyone in DSM?)

P.S. My hobbies are martial arts (tkd), waxing philosophical, Game of Thrones (now); and collecting hobbies, seriously :)

Any comments or feedback would be a booster. Thanks guys.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:06 am 
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You seem like you gravitate towards natural game. Try not forcing so much. Also there are many ways to accomplish your goals. The bar isn't the only place to meet women. Just seems like you are taking a natural approach in a circumstance that isn't natural for you. Find a circumstance where you can meet women on your own terms, where you will feel comfortable. On the other hand you should also get over that fear.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:55 pm 
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Hey man, thanks for the summary! The good news is that if you can game DSM downtown - You can game ANYWHERE! I travel a lot and as far as I can tell its a supply and demand thing here...

Its cool that you've read The Game, have you considered reading The Mystery Method as well?

To tell you the truth, downtown DSM can be a rough crowd. There are some other places that would be more beginner friendly, if you don't mind my saying so. Liars club is indeed target rich, however you cannot hear anything in there due to the loud environment. You can't game if you can't talk. If some guy took a chance and chewed you out there, assess your avatar from an alpha male prospective. Is there something you could do about your appearance to make people think twice before walking all over you? I wish I would have been around while that was going on.

Great job for putting yourself out there like that man, takes balls. Its a solid start, keep up that great resiliency and you'll be a step up. On a lower difficulty venue and a little encouragement it sounds like you'll be well on your way.

I would be happy to meet with you in Ankeny. Please keep in mind that I can be encouraging and brutally honest. I consider myself mid level at this point. I am an excellent opener, pawn turner, set merger, and number closer. I'm a pretty good bouncer. Areas I'd like personal progress would be: I'd like to work on phase shifting to comfort, bouncing to C2, running directly and fluidly into another routine after landing a neg and learning some solid material instead of always winging it. Its better to learn the material with a dedicated wing... I haven't had one for a couple years since I moved to the area.

I've PM'ed you my number so its on you to call.


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