I think to effectively communicate PUA practices and materials, we need to determine what a 10 is.

Now, we know everybody has a different taste and view on a woman.

But I think we need to snap out of that, and take a step back and define what a 10 is. A 10 is not attractive, not a hot body, not nice personality.

it's EVERYTHING rolled into one.

too many guys saying they scored 10's. I NEVER have scored a 10, and its not something im ashamed of, I know to score one you gotta out game every man who whistles and howls at her all day long.

And if im to take advice from somebody else, I need to know that what they are getting is better than what I can already get without trying hard.

now define 10!

It's doubtful that a universal definition of a 10 will ever exist . . . There are simply too many complications and disagreements.

In my world, only 8's exist (physical appearance only) and in order for a woman to be 8+, personality must be included.

Personally I think a 10 is the one woman that gets you out of the PU game and that's who you end up with.

Think about it. 10 is perfection, why would you ever walk away from that?

Someone you would marry.

Someone who would make you not even be tempted to get with/date another girl.

No doubt she's going to be fucking smoking hot, but a 10 for me is even if her face got badly burned during the relationship and she looked like a freak show. You'd still want to be with her.

Truth be told, I want to find my 10. This whole pick up thing is just helping me find her, and all the girls I meet are just apart of the fun screening progress.

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The whole HB 'system' is retarded.

Claire Danes, Kirsten Dunst and Princess Leia all in one bed.

Thats a 10 for you. Something you will never find but a great fantasy.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

None of the aforementioned are even remotely appealing to me. Thanks for making my point.

What is a 10? and do 10s exist? is the HB system retarded?

Some words from grand-pappy here

All of these questions can only be answered in your own mind, heart, and soul!

Yes, at least to me a "10" might signify the END of the hunt, were as you have found and succeeded the relationship with YOUR ideal woman, although you then have to be mentally prepared to be over the hunt as well. I am not ready, therefore you will not likely see a "10" in my posts, other than this

I had found the perfect "10" blond size 4 cheerleader, out gaming the throngs of competition. I spent 22 years, she bore me 4 handsome children. She saw me through a life threatening ordeal, that left me weak and slow, and fat. BUT that still did not kill it! THIS did.

I did the worst thing a man can do!

I put that goddess on the highest pedestal!

I worshiped the ground she walked on!

I did ALL of her bidding!

Then, she fucked the first man to dare game her, like I had always gamed her before.

I am not pouring out pussy ass tears to you all here.

I am telling you this, as a warning! IF you ever achieve you perfect "10" THE GAME NEVER ENDS

Now I am healthy again, at 52 I can run most 30 somethings into the ground, I can bench 315lbs (no joke), I average at least 1 new piece of ass once per month (a lot of times more) not including fuck buddies and LDRs.

The point to all of this?

At the end of the day the hunt may be over BUT:


THE GAME NEVER ENDS!!!!!!


got it?

Is the HB system retarded? Maybe but until someone comes up with a better descriptive point of reference, deal with it!

Thanks for letting me vent

As Always,

Heywood [/b]

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

I have yet to meet a perfect 10.... I imagine she would probably be from Eastern Europe

you're 52?

Let's just throw the whole rating system of women in the damn toilet where it belongs. One persons 10 maybe be anothers 4, etc etc. As they have said for years that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder..." or "another man's trash is another man's treasure."

The bottom line is if she is a ten in your eyes and you are in love then thats what matters.

By physical standards I have met some 9s and 10s that I'd just assume piss on as pickup. Then again I've met some physical 8s that were some of the hottest women ever because of their awesome attitude.

There is a lot more to attraction that physical appearance as we'd all agree. This is something that can not be rated or defined as a common system. Even if it could start to be it'd be flawed. We were all created in the image of God. There are some beautiful people inside and out...and there are some definitely hot people on the outside and inside they are ugly as sin.

It doesn't matter what a 10 is or if I can get one. Sure you can if you devote yourself to it, if that's what matters to you. Just because you get one doesn't mean you'll love her. What matters is if I'm happy with who I am with at the end of the day, even if that is just me.

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

Yes I am, true story!

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Nice to know I'm not surrounded by a bunch of prepubescent, pimply-faced 16 year olds.

That, I am not

And I find that 30 something women....are completely fascinated by that

How old are you Provo?

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

I think people on this forum are inflating the numbers.

There are very few 8-9-10's in the world. '

I think of all the girls I've met I've only met one 9.5

It was at a bar and I was in a relationship and was a wingman for my brother. I swore this girl was so beautiful (not just hot) that I saw her from across the bar.