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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:15 pm 
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...I follow MM. I'm not saying I am a big mac player, but what I will say is the vibes I get when having a calibrated game plan (MM) from women is a lot better than this other so called "game".

I used to fuck with 60YOC.. That shit isn't game, that's a numbers game. Do that shit in Vegas. I will say that once attraction and comfort are built, 60's is great! But we all know he preaches his practices from the beginning of the interaction.
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TygaNasty Presents - I AM A KEYBOARD JOCKEY! (Fuck!!)

First step is admitting it, right?

A brief history about me. I've had 2 gf's. 1 lay. Few girls that have grabbed my dick. And my k-closes are in the double digits.
I rest my case
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okay...Tyga...

Being a KJ is about giving advice and opinions as if you fucked a hundred women, when you actually fucked two. It's not about your method, who you follow on twitter, and who's youtube vid you watched last night. MM has aspects that are worth paying attention to, just like 60 does, just like your own experiences do. So rather than follow a guy because other people say he's good, go out, talk to women, and try EVERYTHING.

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...I follow MM. I'm not saying I am a big mac player, but what I will say is the vibes I get when having a calibrated game plan (MM) from women is a lot better than this other so called "game".

I used to fuck with 60YOC.. That shit isn't game, that's a numbers game. Do that shit in Vegas. I will say that once attraction and comfort are built, 60's is great! But we all know he preaches his practices from the beginning of the interaction.
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TygaNasty Presents - I AM A KEYBOARD JOCKEY! (Fuck!!)

First step is admitting it, right?

A brief history about me. I've had 2 gf's. 1 lay. Few girls that have grabbed my dick. And my k-closes are in the double digits.
I rest my case
LMAO! *Claps*
Fuck!!

Why are you going ham on me??

I thought we we're brothers like Kasabi and Skills.


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okay...Tyga...

Being a KJ is about giving advice and opinions as if you fucked a hundred women, when you actually fucked two. It's not about your method, who you follow on twitter, and who's youtube vid you watched last night. MM has aspects that are worth paying attention to, just like 60 does, just like your own experiences do. So rather than follow a guy because other people say he's good, go out, talk to women, and try EVERYTHING.
Or giving advice based on textbook knowledge when you havent got any in field experience.

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Or giving advice based on textbook knowledge when you havent got any in field experience.
What does this make Kezia Noble?


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From watching the PUA show to now, it has been one year in this pickup field. It is really hard, like mystery said, harder than 1000 times of what we think. I have learned fighting approach anxiety,materials, body language. I read carefully the mystery method, watched two seasons of PUA show for two times, watched Mind of Mystery for nearly two times, watched a bit of the Mystery Method Video Archive, half of the videos of Style - Annihilation Method Workshop. There are also The Vault Collection and Love Systems - Beyond Words videos in my computer.

I actually got some numbers, made people laugh, etc. which I would never make it without the mystery method. However, no date, no laid, no relationship. I think I could have, but sometimes I made mistakes and sometimes I just did not like the girl that much.

Recently, I am reading the 60's stuff. One thing he said is holding eye contact. I did yesterday and today, I just found that so many beautiful girls held their eye contact with me for extraordinarily long time , though still nothing happened because it is still hard for me just walking to a stranger and say something. One girl in a supermarket even went back from the counter to pick something near me and looked me again! This stuff reminded me what I did in my last year of college. I held eye contact with four girls (8 to 10) for a very very long time. I only made move with the last one when I felt so painful that I had not took action to the three previous girls. I just talked a bit with her and gave her my number in a paper and I got her text after one day.

I will test the 60's method and see what happened tomorrow.

A little bit about myself, I came from china last year right after my college to USA for my graduate study.


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I've read nearly all of 9 pages posts. I can feel how messed up it is!

Through the time of learning MM, I had the time of lost. Their are just so many pickup stuff. Some commercial websites would consume me hours to figure out what their method is, but I never found out. Just like style said, many pickup companies focused on how to sell stuff to desperate AFCs, not teaching the pickup stuff. These websites would talk about the AFC situations and what would change after learning their stuff for hours, but never show what their methods are.

I had some periods of depression and sometimes I felt great as well though according to the DSM, I do not have bipolar disorder. It has something to do with the MM, because mystery reminds me that I am a man who cannot have the women I want in my life, which means for now I do not have the ability to replicate.

The MM also reminds me how boring the talk between me and other people. Then there was a time that I choose to shut up and read MM.

I noticed many voices in this thread that pickup is only about sex, if your goal is sex, then it is true. However, like mystery said, it is about life. It is about making friends as well. Mystery said he got 6000 dollars loan from Style when he was in a trouble. I also have the problems of making friends, both men and women. I have no interest to many people. After some boring talk and time, we just chose not to see each other again.


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The person in a bar that making people laugh and have good interaction with them is not a clown, nor an entertainer. He is the spot and show DHVs. You may tip a guy for his magic trick and feel great, but it is only because what you do makes you a higher value person. If you are an AFC, and one guy did MM moves in your group, after several minutes, you will leave this group.

You may think what I said is invalid because after I learning the MM for one year, I still not getting laid. Perhaps it is true. Anyway, this is what I think. I will try 60's stuff, too. Like chief said, it is not the rehash of the MM. It is about building tension, which including attraction and seduction.


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The person in a bar that making people laugh and have good interaction with them is not a clown, nor an entertainer. He is the spot and show DHVs. You may tip a guy for his magic trick and feel great, but it is only because what you do makes you a higher value person. If you are an AFC, and one guy did MM moves in your group, after several minutes, you will leave this group.

You may think what I said is invalid because after I learning the MM for one year, I still not getting laid. Perhaps it is true. Anyway, this is what I think. I will try 60's stuff, too. Like chief said, it is not the rehash of the MM. It is about building tension, which including attraction and seduction.

Listen dude, relax stop reading so much, go out on the field and do you, read pick up somethings here and there, go out and INTERACT, do what feels right and normal to you, do not be mini robot...You are not gonna read a book and women will throw themselves at you...Take whatever is congruent with you from different methods and adapt it to you and your personality...All that info. overload will make you a weirdo...You do not need all that shit anyways, just interact see how women respond to you, trial and error...

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Or giving advice based on textbook knowledge when you havent got any in field experience.
What does this make Kezia Noble?
Reminds me of a girl PUA, Marny something, who got me into one of those marketing gimmicks of a US $1 trial offer before the regular charge of around $20 bucks a month for her advice.

After downloading her audio stuff and few pdf files, I ran the audio and read her thin pdf ebooks. To my chagrin, she has been saying the same advice that I've had read from my mom's women's magazines in my younger years. It's basically bullshit advice that does not work on field no matter how hard and how many times you try it on field.

I'm not getting duped again into listening to a girl 'expert' on how to pick up women. I'm still wondering how after so many years of bad experiences from women's dating advices, I still clicked on Marny's buy button. Must be the social psychology compliance thing. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

I guess the ultimate lesson with women PUA KJs is this:

Never put value in what a woman dating 'expert' thinks. Always evaluate a woman on what she does. Her actions are usually triggered by her emotions.

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Lol. Gambling forum!!! Really funny stuff. Good post my man

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The person in a bar that making people laugh and have good interaction with them is not a clown, nor an entertainer. He is the spot and show DHVs. You may tip a guy for his magic trick and feel great, but it is only because what you do makes you a higher value person. If you are an AFC, and one guy did MM moves in your group, after several minutes, you will leave this group.

You may think what I said is invalid because after I learning the MM for one year, I still not getting laid. Perhaps it is true. Anyway, this is what I think. I will try 60's stuff, too. Like chief said, it is not the rehash of the MM. It is about building tension, which including attraction and seduction.

Listen dude, relax stop reading so much, go out on the field and do you, read pick up somethings here and there, go out and INTERACT, do what feels right and normal to you, do not be mini robot...You are not gonna read a book and women will throw themselves at you...Take whatever is congruent with you from different methods and adapt it to you and your personality...All that info. overload will make you a weirdo...You do not need all that shit anyways, just interact see how women respond to you, trial and error...

You are right man. Thanks. I am not approaching girls as many as needed.

The mystery stuff and style stuff are same and the love system is pretty the same, too. The 60 stuff are different. Some things I know just rehash the MM. Other things I know do not have theory or little theory which will really make AFCs like me confused.


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The person in a bar that making people laugh and have good interaction with them is not a clown, nor an entertainer. He is the spot and show DHVs. You may tip a guy for his magic trick and feel great, but it is only because what you do makes you a higher value person. If you are an AFC, and one guy did MM moves in your group, after several minutes, you will leave this group.

You may think what I said is invalid because after I learning the MM for one year, I still not getting laid. Perhaps it is true. Anyway, this is what I think. I will try 60's stuff, too. Like chief said, it is not the rehash of the MM. It is about building tension, which including attraction and seduction.

Listen dude, relax stop reading so much, go out on the field and do you, read pick up somethings here and there, go out and INTERACT, do what feels right and normal to you, do not be mini robot...You are not gonna read a book and women will throw themselves at you...Take whatever is congruent with you from different methods and adapt it to you and your personality...All that info. overload will make you a weirdo...You do not need all that shit anyways, just interact see how women respond to you, trial and error...

You are right man. Thanks. I am not approaching girls as many as needed.

The mystery stuff and style stuff are same and the love system is pretty the same, too. The 60 stuff are different. Some things I know just rehash the MM. Other things I know do not have theory or little theory which will really make AFCs like me confused.
I like vin dicarlo attraction code, if you want different and normal, 60yoc is more for loud environments, night game imo(that is very similar to my style in club game)... I am not big on mm, love system and the likes. Hang out with dudes that get women, that is better than any book or method...

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Listen dude, relax stop reading so much, go out on the field and do you, read pick up somethings here and there, go out and INTERACT, do what feels right and normal to you, do not be mini robot...You are not gonna read a book and women will throw themselves at you...Take whatever is congruent with you from different methods and adapt it to you and your personality...All that info. overload will make you a weirdo...You do not need all that shit anyways, just interact see how women respond to you, trial and error...

You are right man. Thanks. I am not approaching girls as many as needed.

The mystery stuff and style stuff are same and the love system is pretty the same, too. The 60 stuff are different. Some things I know just rehash the MM. Other things I know do not have theory or little theory which will really make AFCs like me confused.
I like vin dicarlo attraction code, if you want different and normal, 60yoc is more for loud environments, night game imo(that is very similar to my style in club game)... I am not big on mm, love system and the likes. Hang out with dudes that get women, that is better than any book or method...
i need to comment on this. this is a great point dude. just going out and opening sets does not cut it unless you have loads of time to invest and no life. reading will make you wierd if you don't practice and see what works for you. going out and learning from the guys that get women is probably the fastest method of attaining reasonable progress. it depends on your learning style, but try to wing a good PUA. this is what i need to do, i realized, if i am to truely progress from my usual self.


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