Hey everybody! Im in a sucky situation >.<

So i like this girl and i know she likes me too, but she is very shy and never initiates and she makes it hard for me to properly initiate on her.

So i held a party yesterday and the girl came with her bff en the bff's bf. Ok thats cool the bff and the bf both like me so thats awesome. the bff actually invited me out to go a party tonight so I could get to know the girl i like more.

However... when they came they sat next to eachother and as shitty as it is my target is sitting in the middle! FML! So i go soccialize with the bff and the bf from both sides. [bouncing around cant invest too much] and i cant 1 vs 1 talk to my target =\

So at a certain couple of points i manage to find an opportunity to isolate her, but surely enough the bff and bf dont take the hint to fuck off Dx. They know im interested in her, and they are setting things up for us. But they wont take a hint let us socialize wth eachother 1 on 1 D:. So that sucked =[

anyway since it kinda failed yesterday im having a feeling i lost a big opportunity with her... When she left i had no problem isolating and escalate on 3 other girls... [preselection makes things so much easier lol] so i guess my game was pretty much on. [difference with those girls is that i just wanted some fun with them, while my ' target of the night ' is someone who i would like to commit with.


so tonight we are going to a festival in the Hague with my target, me and the bff and bf. My game is not as strong there as it is in someones house etc. Please give me some advice and what I should do D: weve been through a-2 and a-3 [mystery method] but im worried im going to fall back to a-2 which sucks.

Okaaaaaaay last night was horrible! my god what a disaster D: I tried to game her but beng afc looked like it had the most succes >.< I hate it that im not a mpua yet DX [by faaaar]
Anyway im planning to just tell her bff that i like her and need some help, because this is nowhere. I'm not getting to know her which sucks, need dates and stuff ;o.

Hey man. Looks like you need to redefine your definitions of AFC and PUA.

How about you make your goal: "Confident, leading man" instead of MPUA.

Her bff should be winging you. At the party you should have texted the bff, or taken the bff (or her boyfriend) aside to talk to them. It didn't need to be long, just: "Hey, so I'm going to try to kiss [hername], will you help me get her alone?"

If a girl is shy, she wants a guy who cares about her and wants her to be happy. She will not notice any subtle moves, you need to make them VERY obvious.

Also, you are so far beyond that MM shit (I barely know the stages). His model is designed for a cold approach, a girl you've never met. This girl likes you, she probably wants to date you, and all you've gotta do is kiss her to make it happen.

Im so happy someone responded! and thanks for the advice! i just feel like im really blinded because I like her so much.

Today i actually called the bff and she said the girl isnt sure she is straight...but whatever ill make her straight lol. You are right that i shouldbe texted the bff >.< but I was afraid of showing too much intent!

And It also makes alot of sense that you say i should be obvous with my moves. It's like everything ive learned, but yeah thats cold vs warm approach.

And im very scared of losing her I'm like literally clueless at what to do at this moment. Like i dont even know if i should start a convo without a proper opener... I dont what to fuck it up.

At this moment im taking all the advce i can get lol

I would like all the advice i could get xD Because every one of you is awesome!


PS next friday is her surprise party for her birthday, I dont think I should go because I dont really know anyone there =[ It would just make me look like an unsocial dweeb >.< What do you guys think? I cant game her 24/7 she has to be around the party people who came to celebrate with her...

Agreed. Unless you were invited by the girl PERSONALLY (not invited by her BFF or her parakeet), I would stay away from the birthday party because you would be the odd man out. Personally, group dates are a big no-no unless you know the other two are winging ya. Otherwise, they will "salt" your game by accident.

If I were you at this point, my top priority would be to try to get the girl to meet up with me somewhere public, like a bookstore with a coffee shop, and take it from there. Good luck!

Thanks!
im so lucky to be on this forum ;D In any case I found that some of my friends are also going. So I guess now its fine for me to go since i know 4 people there. Not the ideal situation but its managable! And I have faith in my pua skills! ;D

I have a friend like you on another forum. You're very enthusiastic about this whole process. You're probably very enthusiastic in real life, too.

His problem is on being sexual though. Cool it with the positivity, and the constant pep, and just be sexual. When you go to this party, GET HER ALONE and GET THAT KISS.

It should be easy! Tell her "Can we talk alone for a second? I have a present for you."
Take her somewhere. Say "Alright, close your eyes." then kiss her.

So easy. DO THAT WITHIN THE FIRST 30 MINUTES OF THE PARTY.

Yeah true I am VERY active with pua, I sarge every day [streets/malls/school whenever i get the chance pretty much..] I love it and i look it as a game, like its not even real life! But this is all cold approach, but im alot worse at warm approach =[ =[
I even got about 8 people to be my 'students' lol, because they know that this stuff works, because I have proven it to them. And im hoping that they will wing me with this girl.

But I lack skill at a hell of alot stuff, and thats why im gratefull for these forums. Because you make up for my lack of knowledge/skill.

I like this girl very much even though im still actively sarging [kind of wierd for the afc right?]

And yeahhh I dont think I have the balls for it just yet xD I wish i didnt know her so I could just play cold aproach Thanks for the advice yet again =] I will try my utmost best to get this girl and never give up haha.

No. If you don't make a move at this party, then give up.

Making a move IS pick up. If you don't kiss the girl, why the fuck did you start talking to her?

Dont you dare take students if you dont even have the balls to kiss. What kind of idiot would you look like to them?

I dont have a problem to k-closing not even at f-closing girls, however when i am geniunely interested in a possible long term relationship I get nervous. And this isnt cold approach so I will see her again most likely X_X If a random girl rejects me then i dont give a crap. but this girl is in my personal circle and she is special in my eyes ;o

And any suggestions for a gift I should bring? I was thinking about some hygenic crap or possibly a stuffed animal? I dont want to give her flowers/chocolates/jewlery/booz because i dont think those will get me any further into the game.

And I will make a move! AND I SHALL SUCCEED DX

thanks for the continuous advice!
And the guys who I teach have all seen what I am capable of, and they come to me in search of advice. And im just nice enough to share with them what i know

That's all I needed to hear. The rest is just details. Good luck!

THANKS! DX today is the day X_X

if anyone got anything to add I'd love to hear it ;]


thanks alot everyone who replied to my thread!

OK i suck D:
I didnt get to do shit,

replay of the night

I came there got some cool presents she loved it. Afteer that i took every opportunity I got to vibe everyone in the room, where the frame was always set upon me. I THINK everyone thought i was a cool guy ;] Got some IOI's from the girls i wasnt interested in.

And i didnt get any ioi's from the girl I AM interested in =[ =[ I tried to isolate her a couple of time asking her if i could see her guitar . She rejected it twice i think, so that sucked .< If im missing any information just ask me. Im experienced in cold approach but i suck in ' warm approach ' [known her for a week or 3].

Ill see her again tomorrow in a festival but I doubt that will go any better than it has gone tonight...

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Munkeyz, great comprehensive post.