ok so im pretty new to this pua scene, ive been reasonably successful with girls before, but since reading this ive realised how much better i could have been lol, neway cut the bs i need sum help creating a routine, thinkin of going sarging at the weekend, try start it with an opinion as i'll probly be at the shops..

me: excuse me i need a female opinion on summin, wud u rather recieve a voucher or an actual item for xmas?
hb: voucher/item/dno /why?
me: oh right thanks its jus i reli need 2 get summin for my lil sis.. thought u lukd cute, bit like her hehe, but havnt got mch time, meeting a friend in london in a bit, havnt seen him for 3years when we went to barbados on his yacht in the summer blah...
hb: blahblah... maybe IOIs ?
me: *not sure wher to go from here?lol*

as you can see im not that experienced as a pua so any help would be greatly appreciated, been having a look on this forum and I think its awesome everyone helping each other, so i would be grateful, thanks c_1991.

haha, i just started too. but fro my experience, here are ways to progress:

- know how to change topics and stuff, get her talking about anything so long as its interesting and engaging.
- Be playful, do some kino *touch her ,but not in an uncomfortable way 'shoulder, arm, pokes, small playful pushes"
- NEG her "its a playful comment that makes her self-conscious, and givers her a challenge"
- Play some games "styles 5 lies, ESP game"
- Tell stories that DHV 'demonstrate higher value' without bragging
- Do a lot of guessing games
- keep that smile going, hers as well
- Tell her interesting things "how many 9's are there between 1 and a hundred? It's multiple choice. You know that theres something you can do, its called counting ;. What? 8, 7, 10? The answer is 20. You've got 9 right? then 19, 29, 39 ,49, 59, 69, 79, 89, 90 91,92, 93, 94, 95, 96 ,97, 98, 99... twenty-nines' "

I've gone as far as facebook-close. And that was in a bad situation. hahhahaha. I've only done 2 approaches total. And both times worked out well.

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That's alright for the opener. The opener doesn't have to do anything but what the name says "open". Oh yeah you want to be talking mostly to the obstacles if there are any. Most of the attention the target gets early on are disqualifiers. After you throw the opener out you move on to other routines. If you want you can even stack other openers you have in your head. Like xvxv3ndetta said do kino escalation. Lots and lots of push/pull. Calibrate your kino escalation and as soon as you feel she is becoming uncomfortable, push her away (throw her arm away, etc). Multiple thread your stories, topics, games, etc to keep the target interested. Meaning start a story don't finish it move onto a game finish the game, move onto a brand new story don't finish it and go back to the first story and FINISH it and finally back to the story you started last and finish it. Sorry if that was a little confusing. PLEASE use negs responsibly. Negs are a very powerful tool but it can cause you to get blown out of the set extremely quick if used wrong (too excessively, too harsh) she doesn't want to be around a dick, your negging her just to show her your not YET interested in her. So she in turn has to work (or qualify) for your approval. JUST calibrate, calibrate, calibrate. And the ability to do this will come with the more exp you gain. Also once you're getting a steady flow of IOI's after negging and DHVing the target you can start making her sell herself to you. So what are three qualities about yourself that would make me want to get to know you better? Except don't use that question, it's just an example. That question is soooooo overused. Also all these psychological games and kino games are considered DHV's. BUT be careful on which games you choose to do for the PU world is becoming more and more mainstream.

lol im new to the pua scene aswell so if im wrong please correct me.

The opener is good but I recon that next time, while using the same opener, try reach the social hook point before you move into routine because she might feel a bit weirded.

just a suggestion hope it helped

thanks for the comments guy really helpful
ill try it at the weeekend then