Okay so here I am, I read the game, infact i read quite a lot, and im interested. Im interested in this whole community. And, as much as i hate to admit this, i need help.

Firstly, I am a business student, and wow do the guys who run this shit know business. Essentially its all the same, whether your trying to fuck a girl or sell a car, that is, you have a pitch, talk some shit to keep them interested and seal the deal. The concepts you come here to learn, infact, are concepts you should be learning in all aspects of life, not just when your trying, for lack of a more appropriate phrase, to 'slay some bitchez'.

Okay anyway, heres where my problem lies. I am 19 years old, go to university and live on campus, so naturally theres girls everywhere (40% male 60% female). Ratio is looking good. Im about the size of a 16 year old girl, i smoke i drink and dont like to wash my clothes all to much. That said I go alright with girls, i mean who wouldnt want more right?, but i have had sex many times with numerous partners as well as some long relationships. Im not shy, after two beers expecially.

I went out last night, was quite drunk honestly, and decided to try some openers (oh fuck, this wont end well). i approached 3 groups of girls over the evening, the first laughed, said i was cute, but didnt give me much more after that. The second group jumped at me and my wing (who doesnt really know he was my wing, but social proof is easy when your at a club you know 40% of the people at). the conversation went well, but i bailed because i didnt know what to do from there. The third group were stunning, i mean 11's. So i marched over their, watching my ego on the ceiling as i walked, the last thing i remember was "i know your using a pickup line, fuck off i have a boyfriend blah blah im a whore" or something along the lines. Shortly after i was asked to leave by security, for cutting the beer pong line.

SO, heres where you help. please? I can open a group, im not shy, i am popular and not considered a 'creep' to women. My problem is, after opening them, how the fuck do i change that into kissing a girl. I mean 3 mintes in and im back to 'What do you study' then i watch as she become less and less interested in me and legs it. Its a midgame problem brothers, what do you suggest i do?

NOTICE:
Any routines suggested I WILL try within the week and review. I dont fear rejection (only cause im used to it).

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VahnLegion

Sounds like you're starting from a way better point than most people mate!

If that 'not washing my clothes' thing wasn't a joke, sort that out, ASAP.

Basically, after opening, transition into attraction. This is where you show your attractive qualities to the girl without directly hitting on her. Disqualify yourself during this stage. Attraction can be achieved through DHVs, negs, some light kino etc.

Once she is attracted move into qualification, comfort and then seduction. But for now focus on moving from opening into attraction.

Practical ways to transition include using 'hooks'. That is, anything she says during your opening you can pickup on.

E.g You - "Opener blargh blargh" Her - "Response blargh blargh fashion" You - "My ex who used to model for Hollister blargh blargh" = transitioning from an opener into a DHV story using a hook.

There are loads of ways to do it, that's just one. PM me if you need anything bro.