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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:47 am 
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Ok, i went out today, solo sarging and the following happened:

I did meet two nice girls. They were photographing each other and i told them i could make a picture for them and we got into a discussion. After about 10 minutes of talking, I said, come on, lets sit down. They were following me, and we were talking for about another 15 Minutes, then they said they wanted to dance.

I followed them to the dancefloor and left them for a short time to get another water. When I was returning, they were talking to two other guys. Actually they were quite friendly and i was shaking hands with them.

But the problem was, they were hitting on my target, and they were much better looking than me. (I am not a really good looker, thats my disadvantage ;)).

So I was alone there, and the women were talking to those men, and i felt kind of awkward now, just standing around there. Then those men were bying the girls some drinks.

However, didnt know what to do, so i just asked my target for a facebook-close and she just grabbed my cellphone and punshed in her name. Then I said I had to go and I just got out.

So my question is, what should I do in such a situation? I couldnt really game her, because those to guys were interrupting anything i tried.

However, all in all it wasnt so bad, i got that facebook-contact anyway ;)

But I am pretty unsure in such situations.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:57 am 
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Demonstrate higher value than the two AMOG dudes. Box them out with your body language. Isolate your target if possible. Watch Keys to the VIP for free on Youtube there are about a million examples of this live infield.


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Those guys could have been their gay best friends. It's a common problem, I have it too. You see a good looking guy talking to a girl, and you assume he's trying to sleep with her. That's not always the case. Introduce yourself to the guys, then just start talking to the girl. Take her hand and lead her away to dance, or do a shot at the bar, etc. Game can beat out looks, personality can beat out looks. And physical escalation is more attractive to a woman than anything in your appearance.

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Those guys could have been their gay best friends. It's a common problem, I have it too. You see a good looking guy talking to a girl, and you assume he's trying to sleep with her. That's not always the case. Introduce yourself to the guys, then just start talking to the girl. Take her hand and lead her away to dance, or do a shot at the bar, etc. Game can beat out looks, personality can beat out looks. And physical escalation is more attractive to a woman than anything in your appearance.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:11 pm 
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There was a book called "how to get anyone to do anything"

There was a specific part about trying to meet a woman with people who are better looking than you.

It went on to describe that if you are around better looking males, dont bother trying to pickup, because you will be perceived as the uglier one immediately.

And that it is best to meet her when alone, because you wont be compares to anyone else, and can use other methods to attract her before you run into other people.

Seems contradictory to pua stuff, which focused on being social, but the study was done by pshycologists and proven to be true.

Likewise, if you meet a woman while in the presence of pretty women, you will be perceived more attractive, because of laws of association.

It's really common sense. Can you game a woman? Sure, but will she give you the chance when she is immediately attracted to someone else who didnt have to do anything?

Remember, women know that if they date a fugly guy, that makes them appear less atractive. not only to other guys but not as valuable to other women. If she dates a great looking guy it makes her look great too, even if shes less than average looking.

Go out saargin with guys who are your equal at least at first, it could kill your confidence otherwise.

I have gone out with some of my good looking friends, and suffered this problem first hand. There might be three women and three of us, and all three of the women are interesting in talking to the better looking guy. Granted, they have to be REALLy good looking, but I have had some friends who women would walk up to them, before the night even started

It's just like us, if we meet three beautiful women and the forth one is fugly, we dont want her, only if we get real drunk and fail with the others.

So women are no different. Frst impressions are huge, so being a great looking guy gives you instant great first impression. All you have to do is be a halfway social guy and you will get laid.

And remember, good looking guys can learn PUA too, so until you become a master, watch out for the better looking guys.


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:47 am 
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Thanks for the answers.

Probably I was doing just the right thing in fb-closing this and get out of there, because she wrote me today on facebook:

"You were lucky to go home, those other guys were so boring"

I am meeting them tomorrow. :) I have absolutely no idea, why that happened, but I am glad anyway. In the end, i got the fb-close and the good looking guys didn't close the girls.

What happens from there on, is well, likely not something special, because I am still an AFC learning.

However, I am gaming just since 2 weeks and in that time I managed to get one kiss-close und about 7 fb- or number closes. Not that bad, especially for me :) Didnt had an f-close yet, but well, it was just 2 weeks and there was more going on, than in the last 30 years.....

If it goes on like that, I am pretty confident.


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I followed them to the dancefloor and left them for a short time to get another water. When I was returning, they were talking to two other guys. Actually they were quite friendly and i was shaking hands with them.

But the problem was, they were hitting on my target, and they were much better looking than me. (I am not a really good looker, thats my disadvantage ;)).

So I was alone there, and the women were talking to those men, and i felt kind of awkward now, just standing around there. Then those men were bying the girls some drinks.

However, didnt know what to do, so i just asked my target for a facebook-close and she just grabbed my cellphone and punshed in her name. Then I said I had to go and I just got out.

So my question is, what should I do in such a situation? I couldnt really game her, because those to guys were interrupting anything i tried.
You did well for your skill level. Take the situation in stride and keep practicing hard; eventually, you'll get to a point where you can blow any guy out when he tries to go for your chick. And by the way, looks don't matter in the game ;).

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All you have to do is be a halfway social guy and you will get laid.
Lol...you have NO IDEA how wrong this is.

Halfway social guy. Right....just talk about the day, make a wise-crack joke, ask her about her life....her passions..and you're in just like that hu?

LOL...

I'd recommend taking advice from people who know more than these general limiting beliefs. I can send a pic of the guys I go sarging with. No doubt they get an AMAZING first impression, way more than me (damnit!) but when it comes to being social that is their problem. Social.

They do not get LAID just like that.


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out amog them.
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All you have to do is be a halfway social guy and you will get laid.
Lol...you have NO IDEA how wrong this is.

Halfway social guy. Right....just talk about the day, make a wise-crack joke, ask her about her life....her passions..and you're in just like that hu?

LOL...

I'd recommend taking advice from people who know more than these general limiting beliefs. I can send a pic of the guys I go sarging with. No doubt they get an AMAZING first impression, way more than me (damnit!) but when it comes to being social that is their problem. Social.

They do not get LAID just like that.
Dont tell me I dont know, I do! I have a friend who works on TV for a living out west, and when he comes out east, nobody knows who he is as far as celeb status, but he's such a good looking guy, every time we go out women walk right up to him.

He even tries to help us out and not say a word back, and then they "love how shy he is"

dude, I know this first hand. Women go for looks initially. Not saying you cant figure out a way to seduce them anyway. But if you are with a guy that good looking, forget it jack, you wont get a chance to game her.


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