so on my birthday two weeks ago, ive run into this girl, she had a massive ASD wall which, i managed go get through and K-closed her. however, she wouldn't let me F-close her saying "Im not that type of girl" (yeah we know that one...). i ran into her last night and she was kissing some other dude, to make matters worse he was her ex's best friend. she also gave my work colleague her number, i was total afc around her trying to get her to kiss me and so forth and her reply was "it's not going to happen". that wasn't the first time time that's happened as she said this when i first met her and i managed to get through by being persistent. anyways she walked with me for a bit and said i was being forceful the first time..i hit her back saying you had the option to leave the first time but you didnt....also she asked me if ive hooked up since our last meet, i as like "not gunna lie, i hooked up with three". (Fuck it i had to tell the truth, she was doing the same) now im not trying to make a girlfriend out of this one because as much as i hate the term - shes a slut.i dont have her number. but she is on an acquaintance's facebook. what i wanna know is how can i be extremely direct with her via FACEBOOK to F-close her?

tyronnezx,

You don't want to be THAT direct because she's already playing "hard to get" but if you think you have a chance at F-closing her by being direct over facebook I might have a piece of advice.

I read this in another post, and have used it successfully to convey sexual energy to the conversation, this is what you do:

After a couple minutes into the conversation (facebook chat) you tell her "I have an idea, lets play a game"

She will say "yes" or " what type of game" or something like that.

Then you say "from now on every message we send to each other MUST end with "in bed" on it "

Then is all up to you how you take it from here. This has to be in a delivered playfully (kind of hard through facebook).

An example would be :

You: Canned Line... in be on it
Her: Ok, sounds like fun (or something that doesn't contain "in be")
You: Wow, you already lost. You I thought you were better than this... in bed :p

You get the idea.

Good Luck
Gamble49

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Hey bro really appreciate the advise. seems pretty solid. however, i haven't added this girl on Facebook...yet. so conversations are at the moment impossible.However, i do have a bit of a hunch with adding women that ive been fucking or pashing to my Facebook. (Wellington in New Zealand isnt by any means a small place but it doesn't help that many people there know me lol) ive only ever hooked up with this particular girl once and basically i had to try like a Mofo going against everything taught in pickup for a lame ars pash.




i guess what im really seeking is a way to get over seeing women ive had in the past with other men in the heat of the moment. i know it sounds below AFC. i genuinely get jealous when i see my women with other men. for example ive hooked up with over nine girls in the last three weeks and at some point ive seen every one of them with some other dude. this seriously fucked with my head at some point and usually is a mood killer for the night. even if they are just pashing. i get agitated and theres no doubt that they realize this. is there any way to reframe and act like im not bothered by this? if so how do i train my mind to block such a scenario out and move on?

hey man,

you seem to be comming from a very very needy place, you being very direct with this girl over facebook just seems like it is comming out of desperation

this girl has shown some good signs of dis-interest and has been giving your trouble the whole way, instead of moving on and not giving her attention for being non compliant, you just chase harder cause you are needy

you've kissed her, thats good and everything, but why do you want this to work out so bad when it seems she is not even worth anything beyond a good lay?

if how she has acted so far is any indicator for how the future will play out, she will be resistant, and if some other guy can just make out with her at the snap of a finger, and it takes you serious persistance and effort, then really that says volumes about her sexual interest in you

but instead of playing the whole throw up the sheilds im going to go direct as fuck and take that pussy!! route, why don't you just slow your role, get a hold of her, talk to her, find out what she enjoys, ask her out to go do something fun (that has nothing to do with sex), when your out with her, don't harass her, don't try to get anything from her, don't try to ''game'' her, just have fun and do what you guys are doing together, at the end of the day, drop her off, give her a kiss, one kiss, no makeout, don't ask her back to your place, just say I love hanging out with you, I had alot of fun, give her a kiss and go home, next time do the same thing, except change a few details, invite her out low pressure like before, do something fun and non sexual like before, but at the end of the day, invite her to your house to do something non sexual (plausible deniability), then when at your place escalate and go for the full on close, don't try to verbally convince her, just agree with her and handle things on the physical until met with real resistance, don't be a rapist but give it a good solid shot before giving up

GOOD LUCK

hey man cheers for the update. i've mentioned that i met her in town so i really dont have an i deal way of getting hold of her other than Facebook. i was thinking of sending a message in the lines of:

"hey messy lady, I wasnt expecting to see you out saturday night. i thought i might hit u up here despite your drunkedness, it was good seeing you out. and well have to bump into each other again?"

is this weak? how do i DHV here?

also for the big picture as ive stated before, how do i get over seeing these females with others? this seems to bother more people than anything and has a knack for ruining the night.

don't worry so much here, she either likes you or doesn't, one way or another one sentance to start a conversation usually won't make a difference, at this point it would most likely already be made up in her mind based on a first impression as to if she has any interest in you or not, just send her a message, you are losing nothing by attempting to contact her, and gaining nothing by not doing it, so you might as well just do it and not theorize all day and night over if it is the perfect thing to say, as if you start talking to her and hang out, there will be hours of talking that will overshadow any one text message you send, in person is always more important then behind the phone/computer
this is just something that is simply out of your control, how you deal with it? that is a question only you can answer for yourself as it is subjective from person to person, but in my opinion, that is just life, most young hotties have a good 5+ guys to choose from at any time, that is just the way it is, just cause some girl is out with another guy doesn't mean she won't go out with you, even if that other guy is her boyfriend, depends on the girl, some girls cheat, some girls don't, no point in worrying about it, if she likes you and you like her that is really all that is important, neither her nor you own each other, so a girl getting jealous over you having girls that you talk to, is the same as you getting jealous over a girl talking to other guys, if you seek monogomy then just manage that expectation, and trust your girl until she gives you a reason not to, once that trust is broken, on to the next one, no chances, once a cheater, always a cheater

well man i've sent her a message. it cant hurt. if she doent reply im not gunna bother. if what shes been playing at as of late anytthing to go by, im not even remotely interested in her for a relationship. plenty of girls out there so im not going to loose my sleep over this. kinda funny tho because going forward i reckon this is the mentality i should have. but theres a fine line between not giving a fuck and actually taking a notice. as a matter of fact i think the big picture for me is seeing women cheat left right and centre. i have hooked up or screwed women that had boyfriends and i see this trend all around me. i could pull a good 80+ instances where myself or someone i know were cheating. it just seems to be the N thing these days to the point i dont even give good girl a chance she deserves. hence the whole issue that started this thread seems to stem from this trend - some girl pretending not to be a slut when shes out pashing guys after a break up, even getting with the ex's best friend who has a girlfriend and kids.