never done anything like this before read the game and was hooked, could do with a wingman and any help you can give me i live in wigan nr manchester

hey, welcome.

Only advice is just make sure you get into "game" for the right reasons if you go over board or use your powers for evil it will hollow you out.

And start away from your local area that way you wont bump into any one awkwardly (both girls that shot you down and people that know you like from work)

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thanks for that your the only one that answered, iam ok at opening sets dosnt matter how many women, still get AA but can get over it , the problem iam having is holding there attension my brain wont think quick enough proberbly my age and the other thing is i think iam coming across as a bit of a weirdo i dont know if its just wigan girls becouse they are very down to earth what do you think

I don't take all this stuff so seriously so it took me 3 attempts to realise AA meant approach anxiety, keep it in english for me mate

First things first with the AA, just talk to random people they can be guys at the bus stop or whatever just even asking what the time is you'll realise that people for the most part are quite friendly and polite and all you have to do is be confident and nice.

I can give you some input but what age of women are you targeting? If you're 50+ i'd assume you want a slightly mature women say 30-40 is that right? (nothing wrong with going for 18 though thats do-able too just asking)
Reason i ask is you'll want to adjust your hunting grounds accordingly here let me find you a video for just talking to people these guys are hilarious

Right! Watch these guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzOEEV_3WA

What they say isn't important its HOW they say it
-Confidence
-Eye contact
-Not mumbling
-Having fun
you might come off as a weirdo if you act like this though due to your age. like i said not what they say but, confidence all that jazz


So get back to me on the age thing

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Thanks for the advice , i watched the video your right its the confidence thing girls i talk to are around 35-50 well not exactly girls but you know what i mean, if i get the right reaction when i start talking iam ok i can have fun and i can just relax but if i get any sign at all that there not interested my mind goes blank and i just want out of there, do you think thats normal ? i dont have a big circle of friends most of them are in relationships so if i go to a club iam usally on my own and i feel quite self concious of that, by the way how long you been doing this and how you finding it ? thanks again for the reply

Hey ironarm,

I'm pretty new in to this myself and I have the same sort of problem when it seems they aren't interested. I've been doing a little research and it seems a good way to bring their interest back is to do a little cold reading. I've not had chance to test it in the field much yet, but girls seem to like hearing about themselves..

One option to try (not actual cold reading but will help gauge reactions to it);
Perhaps say that you've been studying palm reading and take their hand (kino) and study it for a second.. make suggestions about the lines on their hands and then point to a line and say, oh no, you realise what this is.... Its your retard line, its pretty bad!!

Made a girl laugh that i tried it with and got me thinking that I could probably make more use of that sorta thing if i understood it better The weekend is looming so i'll be trying that again!

good luck!

basecamp

Thanks basecamp sounds good trying to memorise the rings routine but its not easy i was a coal miner for 20yrs now i do i lot of manual labour so not very well educated i find memorizing stuff quite hard but i wont give up went out last night only managed 1 opener was really disappointed maybe its the drink my self esteem not to high at the moment but i will keep working on it the because giving up is not an option. thanks again, could do with going sargeing with someone but not having much luck in that department, thanks anyhow keep in touch

The upshot of that mate is that you should be built like a brick shithouse which makes you naturally magnetic for women. Just get your inner game right and you should be swimming in it.

I know the memory problem as I can't retain anything useful, especially when in a set! I've been doing a little reading about the mnemonics by style and a quick google brought up an interesting page but i can't post links yet.. hop on to google and search for:

style mnemonics

It should be the first link -> Mnemonics and Visual, Auditory and Kinaesthetic Learning Styles


I'm thinking i'm in the 5% group and learn kinaesthetically. In order for something to sink in, I have to just do it.. Which if you're having anxiety issues is a real pain the ass in this field. Maybe understanding how you learn and then applying the lessons learnt from that will assist you in the short term?

As for opening, it sounds like the anxiety is getting the best of you. Rather than setting your expectations at the level of success, why not set your expectations at the level of rejection, if only for the first 3-5 sets. Doing that you'll quickly get the feel of rejection and realise that its not so bad, and it does't matter anyway.. Following on from those rejected sets, move to a bar/place where you want to succeed and just approach with the knowledge that you've already been through the worst feelings that you're going to get all night.

One thing you really must not do is get drunk before starting this process!!

All the best! Headed out tonight myself and will be putting all this advice to the test!

Basecamp

Thanks again basecamp i will read that stuff and your right about the drinking it gets you depressed , went out doing daygame tday opened 3 women with compliment opners 2 went ok i crashed and burned on the other but it din,t get to me off out tnite with renewed vigour and heart , so bring it on world take your best shot , thanks again will keep you posted let me know how you get on tnite tryied to pm you but don,t think its working

field report sat night , went out of town for a few hours opened about 5 sets got good reactions mainly situation openers i felt more comfortable doing this didnt number close but wasnt too worried little steps and all that then went back into my home town opened a 2 set again situation opener went well kept them both in conversation all night did the palm reading they knew i was making it up , i told them they would meet dark hansom stranger with grey hair and devastatingly good looks and how lucky they would be to get to know him , they where laughing away a girl next to me thought i could really read palms so she asked me to do hers so i just did it just covering both options ( youv,e had rough times in your life but you have know happiness that sort of thing )the thing is i wanted to carry on talking to the other 2 so i just said i cant tell you any more the woman was all over me she thought i had seem something bad and wanted to know what i had seen i felt really shit frighting the girl was never my intention i told i was just making it up but she wasnt having any of it any how i fb closed 1 of the girls but dont know if i can be bothered with it she works on cruise ships and is away for 4 months anyhow any feed back would be good

Comparing that post to your others, it sounds like you had a blinding night out!

I would keep contact with the fb close just to build your other skills up past the opening phases.. Just remember, you're not there to buy drinks or stuff like that, you're just happy to have someone around to entertain you keep it non-needy!

yea know what you mean about the needy stuff iam aware of it its a fine line between non needy and non caring or iam i supposed to just not really give a dam what you think ?

I'm not on this site much but reading over your issue with AA and what not, You just need to build confidence in yourself for starters.

When you said you feel self conscious in certain situation, There is something that needs to be worked on, it's not a matter of some magical routine because in situations you will have the routine down but once you get to a more intimate stage there is a congruence factor.

If you meet a chick you really dig, It's going to be rough just going through routines.

I'm sure you have hobbies or some skill that you have obtained in life to help feed your ego in modest sense, Get some adventures set up or join some sort of community... Outside of the game, That way you will have something to base your confidence off of ... Message me if you would like some assistance.

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