I'm not sure that many people have read this book, but I've heard that it is the equivalent to way of the superior man and The Power of Now. I've read Psycho-Cybernetics several times and I can honestly say that it is a very effective book for reshaping your life toward what you want it to be. I've tried to converse about the book, but it seems no one brings this particular book up. So I've decided to start a small conversation on the book to see how it goes.

The book it self is about retraining your self into behaviors that you want and or desire. So while it may not be a continuous stream of suggestions and advice like other self-improvement books, it does provide the reader with some sense of direction. In my opinion this book should be the starting point for all new guys entering into the game.

Psycho-Cybernetics is perhaps one of the few books that should be read. While I am certainly not knocking PUA books, I believe that reading PUA books without a certain perspective hinders the reader. And I think that this is what occurs with most guys. I can’t vouch for anyone else or any of the other books for that matter, but I’m fairly familiar with Psycho-Cybernetics and say that it is perhaps one of the best books written on self-improvement.

Warning, New Psycho-Cybernetics is kinda wordy. The old one is clean cut and straight to the point.

Tyler Durden's blueprint decoded uses this book as a foundation. You should check it out if you want a more 'pick-up' approach for this book.

Well I think it's much less important to have a 'pick-up' approach to anything and simply have a different approach to life. I can't vouch for the other books. I just ordered both of them so that I can have an expanded conversation on the benefits and non-benefits of each book.

Life's quite easy,

put effort into it. You'll get something back from it.

If you want to improve with women, you go out and talk to them.

Throw in some of those pua terms you learned here on the board and you're way ahead of the pack.



Same goes for any other field you want to improve on.



Throw your books away mate. They'll often fill your head with information you have no idea to implement, leaving you clueless on where to start.



self-help is the devil.

I think you've misinterpreted my previous post. At any rate, your post is pack full of assumptions like "go talk to women." Who says that I was not an advocate of this? The best learning experience is practice, but using the wisdom and knowledge of others who have acheived never hurts as well. Self-help gives an individual a sense of direction, and while I agree too much self-help can have a negative impact, a very focused and healthy dose of self-help always puts an individual on track.

Your approach in life is to do and let happen, I certainly respect that, but it is far from the only successful approach to life. I wouldn't advocate for people to throw away the most valuable thing in human existence, knowledge. Instead, I would tell them to use this knowledge properly.

The problem I see with the abuse of self-help usually stems from a person's internal insecurities over the effectiveness of advice. Instead, a person should read a chapter and go try the advice for at least 21 days. Document what you have done, and then reread the SAME part of the book at least 2 or 3 more times within the same period of 21 days, and go out and redo. This is usually the general word of advice on self-help.

I disagree


I think it might help noticing that you're posting on a PICK UP ARTIST FORUM. Our main goal is ladies. The possibility of sex is there everytime you talk to a girl.

So much for your sense of 'direction'

Anyway,

I'm willing to give you a shot.

What's this one successful approach way you mentioned?




also I suggest this gets moved to the 'lifestyle' section of the forum.

Your making an awful lot of assumptions. I might find it useful to ask whether or not you've read Psycho-Cybernetics. I'm assuming you have since you used it as a comparison to Tyler Durden's book.

Atleast you know how to edit.


Have you tried it yourself?

How did this work? what were your results?

I'm not trying to call you out.

However sharing the information you got from trying the info out you got from such a book is way more interesting than hyping about a certain book.

for the record, I'm talking about this:

Horrible advise, read as much as possible, the more you read about biz, relationship, self help, spirituality, finances, whatever, the better and more rounded you will be....

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How'd you two buy a car?

Dicklow found and bought the book, interesting so far. The dude was a plastic surgeon, and according to him, he is the pioneer in self help stuff...

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I'll read the book.

I'm glad it relates to some RSD stuff. I like pick-up material, but I have such a hard time reading a lot of it. I'll get through the first few pages and give up.

Pick-up writers focus exclusively on getting women. I'm alright with my skills with women at the moment, and with finals coming up, I haven't made it my goal to learn new techniques recently.

Instead, I want general outlook material, to strengthen my inner game and make pick-up a philosophically cohesive part of my every day life. This comes from broad perspective books that make you completely understand a concept.

I loved The Power of Now, I'll read this one the first chance I get.

So far the book is excellent, and not old recycle info.. One way to read books it works for me, is audio books, while driving and working out....

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Well, a certain area of the book teaches the reader how to rid of non-successful behaviors. For me this was my negative mindset. I consider ridding myself of this to be my personal most important leap in game. Chapter 6 or 7 in the new book covers that most negative ideas are based on "opinions" rather than facts. Instead of injecting negative opinion you should simply view the world in terms of neutral facts.

For example, if you work for a company and you somehow lost 500’000 dollars, most peoples’ initial reaction would be “I’m ruined”. Instead, the new thought process teaches the reader to “weed out” opinions from facts. The new though pattern consists of “It is a fact that I lost 500’000 dollars, it is only an opinion that I am ruined.”

This, along with basing beliefs on personal factual reasons instead of opinions, helped me to stop the negative thought process. Furthermore, the reader has to come up with 5 factual reasons why a habit is unhealthy or undesirable. I couldn't just say I want to stop thinking negative because it's bad for me. My original reasons were:

1.) Additional and Unnecessary Stress caused from worrying

2.) This stress over time could lead to serious medical conditions, including heart disease which runs in the family. (One of the number one reasons why I ditched negativity)

3.) Leads to unnecessary depression and anxiety

4.) Eventually leads to loss of sex drive

5.) Leads to Poor Personal Judgment

These were the 5 original reasons why I ditched the negative thought process. Having actual self-intrinsic factual reasons are much more personally motivating than a laundry list of personal opinions. Over time the list of facts grew, and I began to move away from the negative. This is not a book that opens all doors with one read, but instead should be read and reapplied several times. But with time, dedication, patience, and diligence you can accomplish about 90% of what you want to do with this book.

The book is not a traditional self-help book in the sense that it focuses on one particular thought process, instead it invites the reader to create a new self-image based on already pre-existent positive attributes and strengths. Over time I realized that a lot of my old behaviors were positive, I just had to recycle the good stuff and throw out the old.

Does the author sometimes get preachy? Sure. Is the book perfect? Of course not. Does his punctuation and grammar sometimes leave me confuzzled? Hell Yeah. But he overcomes this with the wealth of knowledge he gives to the reader. Again, this book deals with mindset and self-image. It's not a "pick-up" book per se, but I wouldn't say that pick up is impossible with this book.

Yeah finding out how he got to teaching self-help is extremely interesting. He pioneered the idea of the "self-image" as it is perceived today. Him along with a person named Prescott Lecky. Lecky's original idea on human personality was that human personality and self-image are based on a series of ideas that support one another. The easiest way to change this "self-image" was to discover that a certain "belief" was inconsistent with other more rational beliefs. Over time a person could learn to adopt new rational beliefs that were more consistent with their self-image. This is one of the principle reasons why human beings possess the ability to change and be dynamic over time.