good fr slick, Terrance is spot on.

lots of guys deliver their opener, and then just kind of wait there hanging on the women's response like 'i thought you looked really hot, so I've come to introduce myself (lets see what she thinks of this/me)........wait........wait........negative reaction......state down.... blow out

Instead just go up deliver your opener and then literally just carry on going, talking, being funny, displaying your personality quickly and eventually you will get a good reaction (hook point), not that you care or are looking for it.

It comes down to reaction seeking, and you yourself being reactive.
I don't actually know if you do this but its a common problem.

SLICK :

You always have to set the frame. The girl is just a puppet who responds to your frame. In fact women can feel your emotional state even without looking at you. They feel things around them. Sometimes you don't even have to say anything. The feelings you harbour inside are clearly understood by women. The most important part of being a PUA is having that feeling of unlimited confidence inside you. Once the inner game is set right, the outer will follow the inner. Sometimes the reverse works too. But both are important.

I've made a decision to go out every day. This is Day 3. On day 1, I went out at night to Broad St. and did no approaches. Last night, I did 2 solo. Today, I just went out for the last 2 hours and didn't approach any girls. I followed Terence's advice of building momentum by asking people for directions. I asked about 5 different people for directions to Odeon Cinema. Once it came for me to approach a girl with my direct opener, something held me back. I walked down New St. and saw so many attractive girls. But, it felt like my body wouldn't let me approach them. I had a belief that I would be bothering them. I had a belief that they wouldn't want to talk to me. Nevertheless, I went out. That's better than sitting in my flat doing nothing.

SLICK. Good job. I am doing the same. Going out everyday.

Here are some basics which I thought I still need to work on especially ABC.

Basics
-ABG = Always Be Gaming
-ABC = Always Be Closing
-Talk to Everyone
-Be Genuine / Be Honest
-Getting your inner game sorted is priority number 1.
-Read everything you can about pick-up, but it's all for naught if you don't actually get out there and sarge.
- Find a friend or a community of like-minded individuals and get out there and do it.
- Everything takes time. If you're not seeing the results you want, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. Just keep going out there and doing your thing. Seduction is TEACHABLE and CAN BE LEARNED. You just have to keep at it.
- DO IT NOW

I met up with Slick on Wednesday to do some street game in the city centre. Started my warm up as I always do by asking people for directions and transitioning if possible by making some assumptions ' your have a slight ascent you are from X' ' You haven't been here in the UK for a long time...' etc. to get into a social chatty state.

Got my first direct approach of the day quickly out of the way by approaching a Chinese girl, momentarily stopped then kept walking. My first 5 approaches are always throw aways I don't expect anything they are just to get me into a social state. (I can't remember which Mpua I got this from mostly likely Yad).

With his first approach after the rain Slick spotted, approached and closed this cute Chinese girl. I was impressed by the enthusiasm and hunger of spotting and approaching his own sets throughout the session.

The rain meant the whole session was very stop/start. I got my first close by karmakaze closing, After delivering the opener the girl said she was running for a train and I just went for it and closed ' I would love to continue this conversation another time....(strong eye contact)?'.

Second set, opened a polish girl who another guy had opened she gave me a bit of shit ' are you two friends ...' I just teased her ' I know you are an attractive girl, but being big headed is soo not a good look' transitioned, walked with her for like 5 mins as she was on her way to work and closed.

Third set I closed was a hot crypriot girl just outside the bullring. I didn't commit to the initial approach as best as I could have, she walked way a little. I just stood my ground and did not rush to say the opener and maintained eye contact she walked back towards me. She said she had to go about three times in the conversation and I replied with ' just one more thing before you go'. A good set to practice ploughing. Not fully committing to sets was you biggest issue on the day and it all tends to go downhill from the opener without fully committing. Good commitment just makes everything so much easier.

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I am interested in women, however I am invested in learning the skill set.

Firstly SLICK I would like to mention that

Chinese girls are like small fry. They are needy for any non-Chinese guy and will easily sleep with you.

Secondly, the number that you have got is useless unless you set up a day 2 within 2 or three days.

So your number close has to be converted to a kiss close now.

TERENCE : I feel that you are lacking in confidence, reading from your post.

[quote="DON JUAN J012"]SLICK. Good job. I am doing the same. Going out everyday.

Here are some basics which I thought I still need to work on especially ABC.

Basics
-ABG = Always Be Gaming
-ABC = Always Be Closing
-Talk to Everyone
-Be Genuine / Be Honest
-Getting your inner game sorted is priority number 1.
-Read everything you can about pick-up, but it's all for naught if you don't actually get out there and sarge.
- Find a friend or a community of like-minded individuals and get out there and do it.
- Everything takes time. If you're not seeing the results you want, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. Just keep going out there and doing your thing. Seduction is TEACHABLE and CAN BE LEARNED. You just have to keep at it.
- DO IT NOW[/quote]

this is correct.

On the way to one of the bar with Jackal .
First we went to one of the bars on our way there, Jackal was
demo how to get yourself in a talkative state by talking to everyone
on the street be a girl or guys and introduce himself and directly compliment
the girls if their hot without being needy or being affected by their reaction whether
it’s positive or negative

When we got there he ask me and my friend Cortez to go and ask
for direction on the group of guys where to get to so and so clubs,
this actually seem not a big deal as these were groups of guys and we were
not after anything just to get that tongue moving but at the same time it made
me realise that you can't depend on any outcome whether it's hot girl or big mama.

And we got talking to one set of three girls, one set of 4 guys and 6 girls who some of them
had their boyfriends but because i wasn't looking for anything it was smooth it felt good.
On opening the set my wing man would come and join me in few seconds and i would
introduce him to the group and continue with my target while my wing man talking
to the other girl. If we are not talking to the groups me and my wing man will be
talking and having fun and not staring at people just like two girls in a club,
let me ask you have you ever seen a group of girls standing there looking at guys?,
so why not two guys having the same attitude of having fun and blast instead of staring, so anytime you
see yourself doing the staring. Then you should know this few facts first, it lowers your value,
secondly you looks like a wuss who don't have the balls to go and talk to this sexy or hot or big mama.


One thing that i have experienced on this journey is sometime you might have few friends or homeys/wing man
whatever you call them, who might be standing there and question everything that you ask them to do and scared
to just even talking to guys and sometime chicken out to talk to girls, i would say to all of you guys ,
the reason you are scared is because you depend so much on the outcome and let me tell you i have
the same feeling hey it’s part of being human but i just blank myself and push myself to go and talk.

After spending in the bar for one hour we went clubbing open few set and leave the set, for practice sometime
i would go for number close but it’s all for the spirit of practise nothing more nothing less.

One thing i would say that i have learn from Jackal is you can’t take every interaction too serious, what i mean
is if you invest too much on each interaction then you will come off as needy but if you approach all the interaction
as practice that’s where the goldmine is and the girl will sense that hence attraction “voila” .
Before you know the Girls will start asking you question compliment you and so on
Once you know their attracted it’s not the end of the world, it’s up to you to connect with the girl
find commonality and Kino a bit.

Alright guys just go out there a get talking to everyone

An Eventful Day with Jackal

Met Jackal in front of Paradise forum, now this guy was exactly as I anticipated; an unassumingly regular person but with oodles of confidence & charm which was reflecting while he was chatting up with the female cop.

Nevertheless, he finished off with them quick & called me out. Started looking for sets, while briefly introducing each other. He had a target of his own in his mind & handed me a target of 50 sets..
I found it extremely hilarious & awkward while sarging with Jackal, coz I hadn't done it anytime before this.

However, with the few opening lines & some tips, I was doing good.
On the 5th set, he pushed me to talk to a hot chick who redhead who was smoking. I couldn't believe the kinda response I got…!! She was surprised & took the compliment well and appreciated me with a wink…now this was something I did not expect & I was already a bit confident.

However, the target in mind was 10 times of what I'd done.On the 10th set, Jackal realized I was being too needy to talk with people by following them instead of standing & holding my ground, this is a change which we don't notice or tend to do subconsciously. But now I'm aware of this.

That evening I also realized the power of intonation & voice modulation while speaking. I was nervous & hence a bit fast & squeaky. But with Jackal, I rectified this.

Upon reaching the 12th set, I was really ok with rejection. I was ok with people throwing dirty looks at me, I was pretty chirpy, smiling & confident. Those who did that, didn't really matter..!!

On the 20th set, I got to know how some wing-men blow a cool game off. But Jackal pulled it off quite coolly. I'd almost blown the thing, but thanx to him we were still chatting up the girls.


We were at a pub & I was on my 24th set. Jackal insisted me on chatting up the ladies nearby & I wasn't even ready..But that was the push & that was what I was required to do. Keeping this mind, I jumped in. To my Effing surprise, I was rather cool & calm & the ladies were just so responsive. The conversation was so lovely that at a moment I thought these ladies were planted by Jackal, but that was not the case.

Finishing it off, we headed inside & I was all chatty & confident. Met few groups, opened more sets & soon I was mingling with all international folks who got me in their group & started clicking pics just coz they said I was funny & wanted me clicked..!! Now that was something I never heard from random strangers. Thanx to Jackal..! With that I was heading towards my 35th set

By my 35th set, the notions which I'd in my mind about people, the fear of rejection & such deterrents were vanishing off..!!
We headed to another pub with more energy.
This time however due to some cohesive energy I was feeling low. Didn't make any approaches even having a few chances. I just got a bit intimidated by a few master artists over there, which I guess was normal for a rookie like me. I even got to know "how not to be a wing man & blow up your bro"
There I met Ricardo, a rookie like me & we joined forces for the targets.

We instantly headed off for a another pub after feeling some negative energy.
New place, new faces & hère I finished off another set & completed my 40th set with my new friend & wing man Ricardo..! We were doing great with each other, the energy was good. We were natural with the girls & we were having a good time with the girls out there. At a point we even got asked by a beautiful lady. but we were tied to our targets for the day & we moved on.

We then headed to another club had a few fun moments with the girls outside.
The fun moment was inside when we started to dance. No my man Ricardo had some special moves as he does salsa. He was good at the floor. I however felt lost, then came Jackal to the rescue, showed a few tips on how to get some girls to dance or talk. which I thought was some advanced shit so I kept it for laters.

It was good enough for me. I completed my 50th set with a gang of girls who were really into it. I think I could have asked for their numbers & got it as well. but somehow I apprehended, coz of the presence of some other guys. I'm hell as sure this won't happen the next time. coz I'll be dealing with this in times to come.
Hoping to learn more from Jackal.
Thanks Jackal. It was a time well spent.

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HSK

Overall, what a quality day of pure day game, totally loving life. Not been out for ages due to uni commitments. Met Jackel at the same usual Jam house, and started instantly with girls on the way to the city centre.Started off slow, by the end was tired as fuck from gaming all over the place

ALL SETS I OPENED WAS DIRECT (NO FUCKING ABOUT INDIRECTLY)

First set a brunette, hb 6.5, was OK. Started asking what she was doing with her day and why she was outside the bar that was closed, fluff talk a little really, Jackel came in and helped to wing and get the conversation going a little further (no offence didnt really work out so good but fuck it, first set). She ejected and walked off and straight after opened a blonde who walked past us whilst in the first set (She brunette tbh was noticeably more mature than me, not doubting but I reckon it would of been difficult to pull off

Second set, opened and she straight away called me out talking with the other girl haha. I told her that it was a friend and that we was just chatting about last night (trying to pull if back). From this we did some small talk and I went for the close and she said she had a bf, so i asked for his name which she strangely said knobhead, arsehole something like that. I jokingly said he sounds a top bloke . After pulling back a little and having another go, still didn't budge and wasnt having none of it and think she was a bit stubborn just for seeing me try it with another girl already haha.

Third set, two. I walked up from behind and stopped them, with them slighty still walking forward but did manage to get them to completely stop. But as soon as I opened directly, her not so hot friend was like yea thanks (they were Russian) and just blew me off, whatever, all good.

Fourth set HB (7 or 8 depends on what you go for really, she was fuckin hot though), I was walking with Neptune ( a new member) and as we were walking I heard Neptune go ooh (like he had seen a hot girl), I saw her and thought sorry but I am going in no chance of sharing this one haha. Opened and we instantly clicked and she just smiled and laughed at my opener. I asked what she was upto and she was from London, but she noticed i was from the north and not local to brum and she guessed my accent (took a few attempts haha), but then asked why she was in brum, which was uni, which we had in common. Fluff talk about uni shit, course etc, she asked my age and then my name. She said she was in a rush, but i said we should hang out and go for a coffee and she was like yea let me give you my number (winner), then she said call me now so I can save you (feeling good about this one). I called her, she saved and then we went our seperate ways. I have been texting her since, and we are arranging a date soon No jokes I actually was beginning to get a semi talkin to her (hottest n close I have ever got).

Next set, a two set, opened and the girl i opened to was easily a strong 8, hot as fuck, and they were walkin a way a little at first, but I wasnt going to follow them and they were walkin into a noodle shop. I was like come on i am not that bad am I, and they were like no no, so i said come talk to me i dont bite to hard cheeky smile. They stood and stopped and the hb said what do u need to say which is so important, i said i wanna chat you up and get your number so I can take you out on a date, and she laughed and said well at least your honest with a smile. Then she was like I have a bf, I said shit, i am so jealous, whats his name, she paused for about 8 years, and then said Jerimiah, i laughed and said you could of said dickhead that would of been more realistic and she was like no no its true and her friend was agreeing with her. I said your breaking my heart here and she was like sorry, were hungry, so i ejected and walked off.
Best bit about it all, as i was talking to them, a black man walked past and said go on son to me haha, what a fuckin legend.

Next set hb 7.5, was walkin on her own, opened and at first she carried on walkin but she turned round and i just stood my ground, she walked back to me and instantly asked my age (i was dressed a little young) and i made her guess, she guessed a few times and then got it right. I said its not polite for me to ask but how old are you. She was 25, i said i am sure we can let 3 years slide here, and she laughed, i said i am very mature for my age and smiled. She told me what she had been up to (dancing on ice) which i negged and was like and i am the one made out to be young here and just laughed which she did to and was good. Then i was went for the close, she was a little hesitant at first but i was not backing down here, she got her phone out and gave me her number. She was walking to the bullring which i was to so i walked with her all the way to the bullring from central library and we had a good chat about cars because she was getting the train and she she felt bad (which i negged again and said i wont judge you for using peasant transport and she laughed again). Then as i got the bullring we parted ways and that was the end of that.
I have been texting her, but now she is giving me the whole i am not sure because i am convinced you have said that stuff to so many other girls today. Proving difficult now to pull back.

Opened another set with a girl advertising a nite out, but she complelty blew me off quick as fuck and just smiled ( i asked am i really that bad and she said yes but then instantly laughed and said no) but she was walkin away so just threw the towel in at that one.

Overall, the 2 number closes were hottest girls i have ever nclosed and overall feeling pretty damn good about the day, plus in most of sets had such fun and a laugh with the girls even the ones that rejected me, good times all round

Lesson learnt as well, after first 2 sets getting pushed into it, i was pumped up and was just fired up. I didnt need encouragement or anything like that, and was just loving life. didnt care that people saw me failing, didnt care if i got rejected, didnt care at all just fuckin hittin on mint as fuck birds who i would of banged there and then

CASANOVA : I saw you opening and number closing one of the chicks in front of Tesco. I had raised that chick's buying temperature by eye contact just before you opened her. Then she knew I was standing just nearby watching her. That is why she talked to you for so long. While you were talking to her, she was watching me through her peripheral vision. She was talking to you because she thought you were associated with me. You will not be getting an F-close with her in my humble opinion. But first try a day 2 with her. I would be impressed if you pull of a day 2.

Really?

Come on dude. If you were interested in her, why didn't YOU approach?

You're saying she got his number because she thought you were with him, and she was interested in you?

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Don Juan, I actually knew it was only going to be a matter of time before you had a dig at my report, informing people with my efforts, so that I could be constructively criticised to improve my game. (Not so that you could take all the credit)

Educate me, how did you "increased her temperature with eye contact" when you was behind us?
Furthermore when I had closed and we parted ways, I did happen to notice you was like one step away with a big smurk on your face, but when I opened I wasn't near you so I don't actually think she thought I was with you (it actually creeped me out how close you was stalking my set tbh), plus if she had of walked off after the interaction, and noticed me with you, it COULD of hindered the result due to her probably understanding what we were actually up to, so thanks for that.

As The Gift has already covered, if she was holding eye contact with you, and was displaying interest, why did you not open, and don't give me some nonsense about how she wasn't that hot because you damn well know she was because even Neptune was like damnnn as she walked past and even he couldnt believe how I managed to pull it off.

Adding to this argument Don, why is it you text me that day saying you didn't want to sarge with me (which I was happy to read), but then when we bumped into each other on the street you was lingering around us and generally as usual "being in the way".

Also why Don do you persistently feel the urge to insult everyone on this thread, for which several hours later you contact members and act as though they are your best friend and as if nothing ever happened.

Here is a harsh reality of it Don, you have no friends, you have no female company, and you are an incredibly creepy individual who is incredibly deluded. Some of the stuff you post on here displays to me (not to the newer guys) that you have really done your research because some of the names, quotes you have discussed highlights that you have read and watched a large amount of stuff within the community, but you are paralysis in analysis and you couldn't open a can of coke to be honest with you, but for some reason you burn peoples reports down as though you are some incredible MPUA, and that you could have done it 10times better.

CASANOVA :

You know why I came to say hi to you ? Because you messaged me twice asking me "Anybody up for day game ?" . I know it could have been by accident that you sent me that SMS as I am no longer in the group. But still, I thought I would give you a chance and sent you a reply asking if you were able to meet at 3 or 4 pm. But you did not reply to that because of which I got pissed. Seriously, don't send me any SMS twice if you dont even have the courtesy to reply to the first one.

Then I was sitting in Macdonalds drinking a latte and I saw you at Victoria square. Since I saw you there, I thought I would say hi. Then I also saw JACKAL with you. I said hi to you and NEPTUNE. You were both friendly at the beginning. But JACKAL didnt want to talk to me and running away from me. He sent a message to NEPTUNE saying I should go away. Later I again saw JACKAL in paradise form with NEPTUNE, and two new members. I politely asked JACKAL if I could talk to him for a sec. JACKAL shouted at me saying he didnt want to talk to me and the other group members immediately started looking at me like an enemy. Moreover NEPTUNE got aggressive and started telling me to walk away. I just sat a few metres away with my beer and cigarette. JACKAL and his gang were showing a lot of hostility towards me. But I dont give a shit. Just telling you how you came across as a bunch of kids to me.

To be honest, JACKAL and his crew has lowered itself further by acting like a criminal gang.

At first it was VOLCANO who started saying "You should fuck off from here" after which he messaged JACKAL to kick me out of the group.

Basically I am making you aware of your gang/tribal like behaviour and your inability to act like gentlemen which is what PUA is all about.

Negative male behavious like aggression, hostility and politicking has to be avoided if you want to be a high status male. Right now JACKAL and his gang is exactly the opposite. They are low status, aggressive and hostile.

This is just a constructive criticism. Take it positively. You guys have to learn a lot especially JACKAL who is technically a virgin because he never Fclosed a girl before with his own efforts.

And to be honest, street game is always gonna be difficult if you appear low status like JACKAL and the gang. The girl would be immediately put off because you are just like anyone asking for spare change/cigarette to them. When I walk on the street, I get IOI's. When you walk on the street, you will only get rejections. So how does it matter if you opened them ? I am working on my game and having lots of fun while I do it.