Yep, and I'm sure skills, sexaddict, myself, and several other guys with good, confident personalities could cut through a bunch of lifestyle game students like butter and pull out all the 10/10 women we want.

My lifestyle has improved lots over the years thanks to my startup business taking off, but my ability to score chicks is just as high as it was when I was a dirt poor dumbshit.

^that! +1

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Yea I know you dont have to be rich to be presentable and stylish. My point is I want to go in with a dlv, and rely solely on my game to turn it around and close. That's what I would be most proud of. A few people have already done something like that as you stated, props to them.

Great post by Sexaddict911 there its pretty inspiring to hear stuff like that when society basically tells you otherwise. Just goes to show how much of game is really inner game.

You can bring women into your own reality and they will buy it and accept it, if you do it right...

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You can do that Sly_Wolf, it all comes down to inner game. Confidence is a super power, if you truly believe you deserve to be desired, you will be. It may not be from everyone, but the women with substance will see it like a glowing light around you. Believe in yourself, and the rest will follow.

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i have money, so i have tried both. drive a ferrari. so it is really easy to pick up for me. any girl that sat next to me with the top down and engine revving, i fucked. but it's clear that most of them were the wrong type of girl.

gold-diggers. i don't judge them. in fact, i respect them, i just hate being a part of their life. even a one-night stand gives me that cold feeling after, really unsatisfying. it's like they fuck you. and unless i act like a real jerk, i feel used on some level, so fuck that. i still act like a jerk though

that being said, i go for "regular", quality women now. girls ask me what i do and i don't lie, they see my car and home. but i make it really clear. i'm not paying for your drinks, dinner or anything else. you better want ME, and nothing else, or you get nothing from me at all. the result is that i now attract many more interesting, and on some level also better-looking women. obviously, it's easier getting gold-diggers, but the women i interact with now are so much better on many levels.

^ this is the right way, you have to test and screen harder...I do something similar in picking a gf, i test them every way for about 3-6 months...

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I see guys with absolutely no status get girls consistently... Then again I see a lot of guys with great lifestyles also get girls consistently.

My main question is, WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT A GREAT LIFESTYLE?

It isn't necessary to have an awesome lifestyle to get girls... We all know that there are a lot of things that comes into play

But let's say your girl comes over to watch a movie, wouldn't it be more fun to watch that movie on your huge full Hd tv? It doesn't even have to amount to money... Let's say the girl you were taking out tonight can't go, then you can call one of your of your many other girls, or even guy friends to hang out with you...

So yeah, you can get laid a lot in your shack, but are you busy doing while not getting laid?

WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT A GREAT LIFESTYLE?

I encourage this, that is not at all the point of the post...Everybody should aim to have a great lifestyle(which is relative according to the person), the main point of the post is that "if you do not have a great lifestyle" then you can not pick up 10s etc... the point is not to hold and stop interacting and learning game, as an excuse of "lifestyle"

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I think "find" women would be a more appropriate term than bring. Sure you can negotiate with people who exist outside of your clique and get them to "visit" you -or arrange to "visit" them- but generally women aren't this big homogeneous group that will go everywhere and anywhere provided the PUA can do XYZ.

It's a case of finding people who match you on some level and adapting to the differences you find, not about taking women and trying to carve them into your reality while systematically ignoring theirs.

You do not ignore her reality, you bring her into your reality, and she will accept it and adapt to it, and then she will enjoy it...Done this numerous times doing it right now...For example: A lot of puas do it with multiple gfs at the same time and they know about each other, they accept your reality...

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Thank you for sharing this Sexaddict. Really helped me as I'm currently broke and my it fuckes up my game. But u gave me a giddy to go out and be creep with girls lol. How can we know when ur book is out skills?

You've done something numerous times and are right now engaged in the same behaviours whether they work in the way you think they work is something else. (Remember Mystery thinking that his strategy of feigning dis-interest turned girls on? It's very similar to Hobbit's causation thread.)

The way a lot of PUA's frame it, they try and make it sound like their reality will automatically over-ride the girls reality. She doesn't do X... doesn't matter.. she will accept mine anyway and then she will do X.

What a PUA does is market himself and there are two main ways he can do this well.

1. Think about what he is offering and then maximise his efficiency by going after girls who are already looking for what he is after. (No-sense approaching a virginity-pledging girl from a baptist church in Tennessee for a one night stand if you're a death metal guitarist who already has groupies willing to go for you).

2. Try and convince people that what he is offering them is actually something they want.

The ability to do 2 successfully is great it turns "no" into "yes", it's everything people ask for on this forum.

But its easy to over-emphasise number 2 to avoid the reality that you can be the greatest salesman in the world but if your product is fundamentally at odds with the desires of your consumers then you have to admit that it's a lost cause.

Any negotiator, Salesman, mediator or manager can tell you that good pitches and strong interpersonal skills will carry you far, but you can't sell stock in an abortion clinic to a Tennessee baptist, especially when you may only have one night to do it.

No one is going to disagree on the point about game becoming too commercialized and stressing unnecessary points to farm money from AFCs, but that doesn't take away from the value of increasing your tangible status.

Seduction is seduction, attracting women through your "success" versus attracting them through legitimate game are two sides of the same coin. Like the example given above, you can attract a girl with a Lamborghini because of what it represents - she assumes you are rich, capable, and hopefully a fairly "powerful" guy. External game is about demonstrating this same value on a subconscious level to illicit the same panty dropping effect on women, but they both work insofar as they will get you pussy.

If I recall correctly from The Game, when did Strauss have the EASIEST time closing? When he was at a club where everyone mistook him for a director, and at that party celebrating some shit for him. He didn't need game at all, women were coming to him in flocks. It might be fair to argue "they aren't attracted to HIM" but it begs the question of what it means to be YOU in the first place. When you're running external game, it's all about manipulating her perception of you.

I do agree that it's better to be resourceful than to have resources, but I don't think it's a bad idea to stress the importance of lifestyle game. When you accumulate power or fame in any way, you begin to develop more dominant and Alpha traits because your position demands it. When you're focusing on external game, you can develop these same traits by applying PUA tactics and understanding the concepts behind them. If you truly believe you have value, it will show one way or another.

The point about men who have money still being grossly unsuccessful with women could be applied to external game too. The problem is just that there are more betas with "game" AND money. I see the former problem myself, you have a world teeming with guys running c/f but never understanding what game means so when they finally get into a relationship, they beta backslide all the way towards complete pussy meltdown. And the former problem one of my friends always complains to me about. He's much older, in his 50s and works in a financial firm. He's always telling me how back in his day, to be successful you needed to have balls, to be aggressive, to be intelligent and cunning; but now you have a bunch of AFC hausfraus who think they're the shit because they have a degree and a high GPA. And because they don't have the ATTITUDE that women expect from a man of that caliber, they don't get pussy or respect despite their positions. Women want confident men, money doesn't buy confidence. They might expect you to be more confident, and thus be more open to approaching you, but when they see that your personality is incongruent, attraction will dive bomb.

All this being said, the best way to approach would be to apply both without closing yourself off to one or the other. Why fuck only gold diggers by being rich or only girls open to external game when you could fuck both by having tight game AND being rich? Money has its own pleasures besides women.

With social proof you send a larger number of pussies oscillating simultaneously. Girls talk, and if they know you're rich, they will talk about you to all their friends. # closing and getting dates becomes shit easy. But if you're a beta, you'll get a ton of dates but no F-closes.

With game, you can CLOSE but it takes work. You have to go out, meet people, approach, etc.


If you have game, you don't NEED a good lifestyle. And if you have an attractive enough lifestyle, you won't NEED as much game. But when you combine both game and status is when you get pussy opening up in parades for you. Women approach you because they "hear" you're interesting or for whatever reason, and you have the game necessary to calibrate with them.

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