Hey guys recently I have been getting friendzoned by some HB9-10 despite being sexual and physical. My personality is just that i am the goofy guy i like making strange faces at girls to make them laugh always am joking around and making dumb jokes. Is this goofyness a turn off for most girls even if I do other things right? I portray a very comfortable feeling with these girls and they feel comfortable and like me... just as a friend. Any other goofy guys out there find success with really hot girls?

I'm the same personality type - but I don't get friend-zoned that often. I joke, but I escelate to fucking EVERYTIME.

There's no doubt in a chick I'm gaming that I'll say ANYTHING, I have a warped sense of humor, and I won't hesitate to fuck her. If I'm friend-zoned, it's because her window to fuck is way longer than I'll tolerate. I also have that discussion - no holds barred - I don't mince words and I'm very, very direct - but I'm 45. If the chick isn't 35, I won't even try to game her. There's just less bullshit at this stage in my life, which makes game even easier... LOL

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True, i mean im still in college even so MANY girls have a decent waiting period to have sex. To be honest though the most satisfying thing about seduction for me isnt have sex or hooking up its about getting a girl to want me that badly. Being goofy actually works a decent amount for me but it still has never worked with the really hot girls.

A) to many people use cocky more than funny in C&F routines, make sure you're not doing this
B) It gets old quick, there's a difference between being a funny goofy guy, and that guy who NEEDS to be the center of attention all the time; women know the difference even if you don't
C) Hot girls have seen EVERY type of guy, you're not new to her, expecting more than this will destroy you

Those are just basic starting points, go over each of them and seriously ask "am i doing one of those"
*It'd be more helpful if you gave us a example of your routine*

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In short, yes it is.

Because i am in college my game is based around meeting new girls through friends, i have certain girls i like being just friends with because they know a lot of girls. Upon meeting a girl I will usually neg them a little make them comfortable with me put my arm on their lower back smile guide them make funny faces at them . I will also drop a lot of jokes when i see fit but i think just basically I chill and take nothing seriously. I can get very serious if I want to and (i know this sounds really braggy :/ ) but i am a smart kid although i tend to act light hearted and dumber in social situations. This doesnt mean i am not opinionated with people it just means I try to not ever become serious.

Women of all ages DO NOT want any goofy clown. I mean it. They are attracted to a man's personality, therefore his seriousness and his maturity. You have to act in a mature way so that she can understand you have of a higher value compared to other wusses and jerks on campus. Why would a woman want to waste her time with a goofy clown? This does not mean that you will have to be haughty and arrogant, this means making, taking and interacting with them in a mature way. You can still have fun, but don't make any silly jokes unless she is attarcted to you. This lowers your value. If you really want to attract women, you got to lose that clown feature if you have one. You gotta start acting mature and talking in a mature way. No matter how you look like, women will sense your verbal power and fall for you. A woman wants a man who can make his own decision. By acting like a goof you are saying that you are still a child, and no woman wnats to be with a child. You want to date many woman in your life? Then, be a man, act assertive, mature and serious while still having fun with women. A combination of maturity with funny and responsibility is a HUGE turn on for women.

Friends and pick up is only slightly different. The thing is when these friends want to recommend a guy for their girl friend to date, is it going to be you? If you're the goofy one then maybe not.