To call or not to call? To ask or not to ask?



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:57 pm 
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Yan, your first post that I've read around here is about you wanting to invite your lab classmate out for a drink at some bar. I can identify with this. I've perfected my fuck routines first before learning how to sarge girls more efficiently. It took me years to realize that I have to improve my sarge routines first to properly get the girl to my fuck routines.

In your case, it felt like some newbie wanting to fight George St. Pierre at the UFC the following night without any sort of practice and would just like to rely on the written descriptions on how to execute an arm bar or how to throw a counter punch to the jaw when your opponent goes for the shoot routine to take you down.

As I see it, based on your information, the girl has some interest in you but you fried her circuits by immediately going for the kill; her phone number so you can ask her out for a drink in a bar. I will repeat these again from my older replies to your posts.
  • 1. Build sexual attraction first. If Brad Pitt asked a stranger girl for her phone number to ask her out for a drink in a bar later, do you think the girl will have easily given her phone number and answered Brad Pitt's call? There has to be a very good reason why a girl will decide to go out with you.

    2. Practice, practice, practice.

    3. Take baby steps. Improve your skills step-by-step.
Now that I've said those again, let's get back to your problem. Here's what you're doing right.
  • 1. Kino escalation is a good way to build attraction. You're on the right track.

    2. Not calling her again. Good decision. When you've built enough attraction, the girl will call you herself because she's so horny and can't sleep. Expect a call after midnight. This will happen oftentimes once you've built enough attraction.

    3. You have the great advantage of propinquity. You see each other everyday so you're on the right track of maximizing your opportunities to learn.
Here's what you need to do so she will call you and ask you out for a date herself.
  • 1. Exercise before your class. The fresh sweat will do wonders for you. You'll only know the effect of this technique after several straight days of doing this regularly. Note that the sweat should be fresh, not stale. If the sweat is still fresh, don't take a shower. However, take a shower before your exercise so you would smell good even after the exercise.

    2. Wear red. There's a science to this. Maximize it.

    3. Reward good behavior.

    4. Start with small compliance baits, requests and commands.

    5. Stress her out and then release the tension. In short, give her an emotional roller coaster ride.

    6. Look at her in a very sexual way. See Warped Mindless' ESP Escalation Model. It works.

    7. Do your sexual innuendos a lot.
Night game is different. Girls go to bars and clubs unconsciously to have fun and get laid (in that exact order). In day game, girls go to class to study and get a degree. There's a big difference. :twisted:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:50 pm 
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Communication is the key. Now, I have realized what would have happened if I have used kino on her. We just sit next to each other in class and talk a little before and after class, and thats it. She is open to talking like a classmate, but nothing else. I did not realize this before. Lot of my mistakes and lack of understanding and awkwardness came from having a little social skills. But I have started to cultivate that and now I am improving very quickly and easily. If I had touched her today, it would've been VERY awkward. Why? We aren't even friends in the first place, and I am some guy she knows from her class, some random dude.
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But still, in talking to even the players who I knew were at the pinnacle of their game at the time (ie. they got lots of premium ass) I would ask "What would you say is the best way to meet girls, dude?" I'd always get, "by yourself dude."
I am not looking to screw college hotties on campus. Honestly, what I really want is a gf with sex, a relationship. I want romance from her side. When I get older, and become good with the game, then I will probably be having random hookups, but right now in college, I just want a gf. Everyone is having a relationship, why not me? I am cool and fine without one, but again as a man, my desire to form a bond with a woman, is driving me to pursue anything to get to my goal.
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Fuck calling these people who you know have frat hookups and guys who you know have major parties w/ major girls, when you know these guys wouldn't give you the time of day., although you didn't mention this problem, I'm not sure that's *not* a problem you've run into.
Yes it happened, a lot of times. I got invited to this dude's party, a house party. I talked to almost everyone, and then when I called this guy again, he never picked up his phone again. So, I moved on, and started to talk to other people in my class and to tell you the truth, I don't get invited to parties, mostly because I don't have a social circle. I am friendly, but I remained isolated for the most part of my freshmen and sophomore years from the rest of the campus communities. I have joined clubs and organizations recently and have met couple of good people, who are actually social and outgoing.
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The one girl: *HAVE YOU EVER ASKED HER OUT?" Have you ever invited her to a restaurant/movie/ice-skating/ ..fuckin-ANYTHING? If so, DO IMMEDIATELY, but don't be desparate about it, just as what you haven't yet seemed to ask.
I asked her to come down one day to a cafe for lunch, and she said she is going out with her friends. The other day, I asked her when she is free, and she is like she doesn't know. I got a wrong impression of how to behave and act and socialize with people. But, after today, I understood a few things and how to socialize with people esp. girls.
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Are you in the US or UK? Do you have a car? Do you have any means of getting to those malls or places where hot girls would be?
I am in US and I do not have a car, but I am going out with one of my friend who has a car to malls to PU girls, but that's like once in a month.
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Another thing to consider is maybe this just isn't your time; not saying you can't get laid or even have a great relationship; but it doesn't sound like your logistical setting lends itself to a life of sexual abundance.
Thats a very negative way of thinking. I have thought like this in high school, always focused on studies and what has that gotten me? A goose egg. Nothing. I lacked social skills and no gf, no sex, with kids, and teenagers have sex at 15-16. As I have mentioned before, I am not looking for sex, but a gf, a decent college girl, who likes to study, and have fun and I can connect with her. Is that too much to ask for? She is young and so am I. If most of the guys and girls on campus are having relationships why can I have one too? I am willing to do, improve myslef in every possible way to get a gf.
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What else can you work on right now to build an extracordinary life? I'm sure there're tons of things. Academics / Gym, / Social/Charity events (social/community status)Finish college, then move to a larger metro area;
Yah, building an extraordinary life sounds good, but then I won't have any game. I am doing that, building a good life, improving myself and so am I approaching women. At 21, my age, still a virgin (and no I am ashamed of saying that, I am man enough to say that everyone here), I want something that I wanted for a long time and I never had it.


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