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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:47 pm 
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So I went out with this hot chick last wednesday. we end up making out at the end of the date and she was super horny. She had to force herself not to invite me up (which I probably could've played with but I wanted to see her again). Next day she texts me, and so figure she's interested. I invite her out for drinks after this party I'm going to on friday (show social value). She doesn't respond till next day saying she went to a movie with friends (hunger games). Anyways, i figure I'd give her a call sunday early evening because the texting thing becomes weak after a while. She doesn't pick up or return my call/text me.

I figure this is a bit of a cat and mouse game but it's a bit weird that till about sunday afternoon she's texting back and forth and then silence. I won't say I am super disappointed because i am not so keen on having a psycho chick in my life but very odd how she went from hot to cold so quickly.


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If there is ONE thing I am learning/have learnt and need to accept now, is that girls can literally go from hot to cold within a day after they get some sleep.

This has happened to me, too. It's something I'm having a hard time accepting, but it just is so. You can literally have a great great time with a girl, and the next day she has doubts and turns cold. I've had a few heartbreaks along these lines.

But you don't really know what's up with her, so give it some time. Try to reinitiate contact in a few days. It could've been that something came up in her life.

I hate cat mouse games because I just hate girls playing me like that. Being in that middle zone thinking she might be into you or might not is emotionally dangerous, because you keep hanging on to hope that something could be, even if there isn't, or you give up even though she was actually still interested.

The best thing to do here is to not think about her, and just try to reinitiate that contact. If she still doesn't reply, fuck her man. Her loss.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:09 pm 
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I wouldnt flip man. Sounds like she is definitely interested but shes just baiting you into calling or texting her. I'd give it 3 or 4 more days before hitting her up. Im gonna go out on a limb and say she texts you within the next couple of days inviting you to do something. My advice would be dont. Turn her down. Punish her for not responding to you call. Dont be readily available to her cause I think shes testing you.

If she doesnt do that, in 3-4 days text her something playful that grabs her attention and forces her response. I got this from the "online sarging" forum but it works great in the text game as well.

" Hey *insert her name*, theres something ive been wanting to ask you. There is no right or wrong answer I just want 100% honesty. I wont think any less of you no matter what you say. Your answer could completely change my life forever"

90% chance she responds with something like "omg what?" or "Ok what is it?" etc etc and the you reply back with something completely stupid like "Do you prefer pepsi or lemonade" or something to that effect. This should get a good response from her and can lead up to you inviting her out for drinks or whatever.

Let me also say, that I fucking hate this part of the fucking game. HATE HATE HATE it. All I wanna do is chill with this new hot girl but then these mind fucking games come along and force you to temper your enthusiasm which makes me resent every woman who does this shit for know other reason than to test you and your neediness.


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Consequences_: Thats very good advice. I agree. The completely stupid question will most def make her smile and associate you with that good feeling.

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I don't even know if i want to reach out again. I think it's pretty clear that she got my message and not acknowledging replying is a clear f u. If she contacts me saying she was busy etc, maybe I'll consider meeting her but reaching out to her after she doesn't reply to a phone call seems like a waste


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Sometimes I think the hottest ones are so weary of guys in general or assume we are all a-holes that they find every excuse in the world to drive us away. I won't deny that I had a rare and amazing date with this chick. We both were just on and conversation, attraction was building the whole date. And now this bullshit.

I've already packed up my schedule this week with other stuff (and other girls) so if she calls me I'm not gonna meet her this week


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Buyer's remorse, maybe? This is why comfort is stressed so much, ESPECIALLY if you're not goin to fclose her the same day! If you didn't build that comfort the first night at the club, she's going to chalk up her desire for you to just being horny that night. Kind of what NYCguy said, she's likely got a dozen reasons flying through her head about why she shouldnt see you again, the main one being she thinks you just want some ass.

If you were pumping up attraction hard that first night, I would have went for the f close. If I really wanted to see her again and make her a girlfriend, I would've taken a different approach and postpone the heavy kino and build alot of comfort so she has that CONNECTION with you that wont dissipate once you two go home and aren't tongue wrestling anymore. But even the 2nd method is hit or miss for me, unless the girl is in my social circle. ONS seems more realistic at the club


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Well this was not a pickup at a club, I met her another time and we went on a legit first date. And the heavy kissing stuff, truth be told I think she lost control and initiated it more than i did. And she's been texting me every day since. It's just since yesterday that she's gone cold. Maybe there's a good reason for it but i think it's incredibly rude not to respond in some way to a phone call.

If she had buyer's remorse she wouldn't be following up the next day with a text. I wasn't even planning on contacting her for a few days


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Your handling it like a champ NYC.Keep doing your thing


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Kinda feel like sending her a text in a few days to say "thought we had an amazing time last week, and are we done now?" but that would be the definition of an AFC move


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Starting to warm up to this sending silly funny text idea if i don't hear from her in a few days. The head games is her power and she wants to see if i crack and start asking her why she isn't responding so she can eliminate me as weak. I even recall during the date how she said she hates it when guys get mad at her for not responding right away to text messages they send her. It was almost like a clue that she's gonna do this to me.

What is so fucked up about this is the more I let this stuff get to me with her or any chick, the more I find myself attracted to her. It's so demented. If I was normal I would be running away from such chicks. But I can't deny this chick is HOT!!! And very smart as well


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Starting to warm up to this sending silly funny text idea if i don't hear from her in a few days. The head games is her power and she wants to see if i crack and start asking her why she isn't responding so she can eliminate me as weak. I even recall during the date how she said she hates it when guys get mad at her for not responding right away to text messages they send her. It was almost like a clue that she's gonna do this to me.

What is so fucked up about this is the more I let this stuff get to me with her or any chick, the more I find myself attracted to her. It's so demented. If I was normal I would be running away from such chicks. But I can't deny this chick is HOT!!! And very smart as well
She's running game on you.

Who's gonna win?

The more you're obsessing about it - the deeper into your skull she gets.

Gain the upper hand or dismiss her. What's the point?

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Sometimes I think the hottest ones are so weary of guys in general or assume we are all a-holes that they find every excuse in the world to drive us away. I won't deny that I had a rare and amazing date with this chick. We both were just on and conversation, attraction was building the whole date. And now this bullshit.

I've already packed up my schedule this week with other stuff (and other girls) so if she calls me I'm not gonna meet her this week
If you weren't escalating sexually (kino'ing her) talking and all that other stuff means f*ck all. It's the emotional rush she'll experience of your touch that she'll remember most, NOT exchanging childhood stories etc. And by escalating sexually I don't mean raping her, or being a sexual predator but rather standing close to her when talking, holding her hand, playing with hair anything to bring the sexual tension higher between the two of you.

Women want a guy who isn't afraid to escalate (a man who isn't afraid to escalate is one of the sexiest things to a woman). If you're talking, joking etc without any kinoing it sets the frame for friendship as that's basically what friends do.


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dude she grabbed me at the end of the date and started making out hard so i'm pretty sure i was pushing all the right buttons. the kino and escalation was all there.


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dude she grabbed me at the end of the date and started making out hard so i'm pretty sure i was pushing all the right buttons. the kino and escalation was all there.
You're missing the point. Women want the guy to escalate, if they're doing the escalating they are hoping you take the hint and take the frame from there. She was in one sense opening the sexual frame and hoping you'd run with it after.

A man who isn't afraid to escalate exudes confidence. Escalating shows to the girl that he's not afraid to ramp things up. Guys who are timid and show a reluctancy to escalate are generally impeded by their own fears/limiting voices and women either internet this as the man being weak, or simply not all that interested in them. In other words, escalation is the man's job.

Understand the difference?

Put another way: It's not the escalation in itself that's important, but rather who's initiating the escalating that's important.

My prescription to you is to give it a week. You will probably hear from her although remember women generally have far more options than the average male as far as the dating pool is concerned so it's not inconceivable you don't hear from her but in all likelihood you probably will. If after a week you still haven't heard from her than you'll re-intiate things with her but with a plan. I would call, not text.


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