Lately, I feel as if direct game has been probably the most successful for louder bars or places where people have loud music and dancing. Most bars that I go to either have a live DJ, band, or a pretty noisy enviornment with music that plays in the background... Particularly in the NY area.

Anyway, I have been trying the good old opinion opener, considering that I got back into the game recently. It has given me success about 30% of the time. I feel that simply approaching a girl and saying something like "hey cool shirt... blah blah blah" then transitioning very fast, saying something like "Oh you seem really fun! What do you do on weekends? You seem like a party animal... etc." works much better in this enviornment. Talking a bit there after goes a long way as long as confidence and my intentions aren't totally masked.

I have read in several books and posts that say you generally approach a girl, then try to tell a story that shows your value and then you ask about her once she is attracted to you. I have also read the opposite, which is fitting my scenario. If you approach some girls with confidence, look good and cool and they are out to meet guys, you can actually skip through the DHV stage and ask/qualify a girl or mix it in with DHVs.

Anyway, I am just wondering what you guys think about game at bars/clubs that have somewhat loud music, dancing, etc. Do you go direct commenting on girls clothes, telling girls they seem cool, asking questions about them, flirting, trying to dance, etc.? Or do you try the indirect approach? There is no real structure to "game" as long as you do it right, but in general there are some more effective scenarios for some types of game.

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I once went out with a PUA who opened his initial set by pulling a woman's chair out from under her as she was about to sit down. Your suggestion may be 'direct,' and it could even be argued it's 'honest,' but it demonstrates about the same amount of tact, class and overall awareness of basic social skills as the guy who's yanking seats out from under unsuspecting club-goers.

And even if that weren't the case, it takes all the fun and flirting out of the interaction. Who wants that?

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Direct game and night clubs are a no-no.

You managed to put a smile on my face.

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I especially enjoy how Stelar claims to leave the girl with two options: leaving alone or with you. I wonder what he does if she decides to leave with another guy?

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While Stelar may get the shags, his approach to PUA is (he claims) successful, and I won't doubt it because I don't know him.

But his approaches remind me of this guy I knew, who would be completely direct with everyone in everything. If he wanted a pen he'd look you dead in the eye with a certain look and say "I want to borrow a pen". And it ended there, everything else about him was completely unsocial, no friends but he got what he wanted. He actually came across quite threatening and if I didn't give him a pen I feel like he'd eat me lol. Strange thing was I was best friends with him as a kid before he became unsocial and he'd never hurt anyone.

I don't know Stelar so no idea if I just described him or not, but his "I want to fuck you" approaches do work eventually, after you've been turnt down a few times. It's just very direct and I, as well as most non-AFC guys I know, would never say that as an opener. We prefer to be more social about it. We can be direct, but never that direct. Being that direct can be quite threatening I know a bouncer would chuck you out if he heard it.

Personally I only occasionally use direct game in a club. And it's subtle direct game. I think the most direct I used was when this girl walked passed me, I grabbed her arm and said "you're cute, talk to me" or something like that which ended with a nice BJ.

Instead of wasting time on "working sets" , learn to screen for DTF women , go direct + sexual and persist.

Until then , none of you can even come close to me and my consistency.

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Actually its a yes yes. If not for anything else then for the fact that since its loud you can not rely on long indirect routines and whatever else. Of course not as direct as "hi, i want to fuck you"

The best existing system, for loud places is 60 yoc.

you have the right idea, look for my "the perfect opener post on the lounge" and the one on Dtf women, it will help you tons...
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skip the dhv, bullshit please, thank you!.
Aggressive, direct, escalate fast, if in 15-20 minutes, there is not chemistry, buying temperature not rising from minute 1, as well as escalation, eject... Loud places keep talking to a minimum, if you can somewhat dance, that would be easier, since you just dance, have fun while making her have fun and escalate...Follow some of my posts...
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^ this is an example of the worst opener i have ever seen! Seriously dude, are you bi-polar, how could you have some good post, followed by crappy crap at the same time, i don't get you. Is there anybody in this sorry ass forum that is consistent.

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Apologies fellows. I didn't think we were aiming for the HB5's in the club or the DTF women. I rephrase my answer to go direct all the fucking way.

better?

I'd fucking love to see recorded videos of where direct worked with a hb10. Please gents, enlighten me rather than constantly quote every fucking thing I have said. Like parrots.