Look guys why are you giving DON JAUN a hard time. He is only speaking his mind. Dragon you are not mention in that post so how the fuck can you comment.
I have heard so many things about JACKAL and how he is only doing this for his own ego and to get himself out the house. I have spoken with former members of his group and they tell me similar things that DON JAUN has said and even worse things. I also saw some videos on youtube once and they are so embarresing. I cant find them any more but this is a good thing.
Take a look on other forums and JACKAL is no where to be seen and can not hold his own in discussions there and no one will back him up because they know what he is about and that he can open a book let alone a set of girls.
Remember there is a difference between opening a set that goes succesfully and opening a set that goes badly. Let DON JUAN speak his mind it is a forum and he is part of the group and can wriite about what he sees. I am very inclined to believe him from what i have read on the field reports and what I have heard about JACKAL

WING CHEMISTRY CAN MAKE OR BREAK YOUR GAME

I remember once when I met TERENCE, DRAGON, VOLCANO and SLICK for day game on a Sunday. Me, SLICK and VOLCANO met at McDonalds. VOLCANO mentioned that he had been with a girl the previous night. He said the sex was bad because he only shagged her twice whereas normally he would shag a girl 5 times(cool story bro!). VOLCANO said to me "You look tired" (the most commonly used AMOG line in the PUA community). I said "I am not a HB10, so don't use negs on me". Then he went out for a smoke. I joined him outside and I took out my headphones to listen to music. He said "Your headphones look dirty". I said "Yeah I had some tobacco in my pocket". Later we moved on to the street where TERENCE joined us. Soon they started approaching sets on the street. TERENCE started telling me that I am the only one who was not approaching and was creating a negative vibe for the rest of the group. So I opened one set at the mall in bull ring. Nobody asked me anything about the set when I went back after ejecting from the set. Later, on the street, I tried to stop a set walking towards me. VOLCANO started ridiculing me for the way I opened the set. I have seen chavs and assholes laugh at me on the street or in clubs when I open a set and get blown out or the set doesnt stop. How bad is your life when your own wings start to ridicule you for getting blown out. I mean it is cool if you laugh at me and praise my efforts. But no, this was plain ridicule and meant to destroy confidence.
Also if there are three or more people together, VOLCANO immediately starts liaising with one of them and starts bitching about the other. For example : When I went with ROMEO and VOLCANO to Gatecrasher, he told me that he doesn't like sarging with ROMEO and said that we should start sarging together and ditch ROMEO. I have learnt a great deal from ROMEO on how to do aggressive kino and 'caveman'ing in clubs. I have had great time sarging with ROMEO and SLICK. When I did street sets with VOLCANO, as soon as I opened two sets confidently, he stops sarging with me and goes to the bar and orders a double vodka and stops winging there onwards.

LESSON learnt : Sarging solo is tough but much better than sarging with wings with issues.

AMOGING HAPPENS EVERYWHERE

One of the main issues I would like to bring to light is the terrible state of politics and infighting in the PUA community in Birmingham. Of course we are all human and the same natural laws of politicking and tribal behaviour apply to PUA's themselves. What I am trying to say is that this could be one of the main reasons why most PUA's give up game and stop improving themselves.

This incident took place a few weeks ago. Me, VOLCANO and SLICK were doing street sarging and taking turns to open sets. Immediately VOLCANO started saying "We are a strange bunch of people. What would people think if they see us together. We have no connection whatsoever". SLICK started agreeing with VOLCANO "Yes, cos we two are like two white guys and DON JUAN is Indian." I said I don't give a shit. Then VOLCANO started picking on my body posture. I said I dont give a shit. Then both of them started arguing with me saying I am not taking any of their feedback and that I am not improving myself. I was smelling a rat here and said "I am already perfect and don't need your criticism." Then VOLCANO started telling me that he only wanted me to improve. I said "I dont trust you. I don't need your criticism". I told SLICK that we could go to slug and lettuce while VOLCANO goes to meet his date at 9PM (Some Russian girl, allegedly). VOLCANO immediately left us without saying a word completely pissed off that he could not affect my state.

Later that night, JACKAL sent me an SMS from VOLCANO. The SMS was like this (VOLCANO to JACKAL) -"Dude why do you have this guy in the group? He is negative social proof and he is leeching on to us. He seriouly pisses me off and has no intention to improve himself and does not take any feedback."

The next week, again it was the three of us- SLICK, VOLCANO and me doing street game. After a while again VOLCANO and SLICK both started picking on me saying my voice projection was not good or something and this soon started to escalate because I was taking none of their shit and I was still being a gentleman. Basically they think that if two people think something is right, the third one has to agree to it. I did not give a damn. Later we went to Wetherspoons where SLICK and VOLCANO combined their verbal attack on me and from my side, zero fucks were given. SLICK started saying "Dude you are pissing me off. Why dont you take our feedback ?". Each and everytime, I said "I don't need your feedback. Can we change topic and move on to something else?". No. SLICK and VOLCANO kept on pressurising me further to which I didnt agree at all. Unable to affect my state, they got totally frustrated. VOLCANO went near the entry of the pub and started shouting loudly as if someone had stabbed him "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH" and said "Dude, this is how you should be. You should absolutely give no fucks". Meanwhile, 6 or 7 women sitting on the nearbly table started getting pissed off and started looking at me like "WTF is your friend doing here?". I just was embarassed. Later SLICK being a beta AFC guy had to copy VOLCANO to show that he is in the cool club. He went to the same spot and started shouting like VOLCANO. "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!". The women in the next table immediately evacuated the table thinking what annoying cunts these are.

Next day, I get an SMS from JACKAL. " DON JUAN is suspended from the group for one week for 1) damaging the group 2)not taking feedback, 3) not approaching sets. "I didn't give a shit. Later next week I got another SMS from JACKAL saying "I might even ban you from joining us for a month".

I got pissed and replied "Dude, get over your self. If you send me any more humiliating SMS's, I will make you pay for it". Immediately JACKAL called me and telling me that I could join them next week for sarging and was mainly worried if I had sent the SMS to everyone else in the group.

How did I damage the group when I was sarging with the group for several months without having any similar incident before ? I have approached hundreds of sets(all documented on this forum). How did he say that I am not approaching sets ? I have made significant contribution to the group, have been a great wing with ROMEO, SLICK and even JACKAL and I have had great time doing street sarging. I have had an F close with a HB7.5 during this time and dated a HB8 and HB7 several times.

There is a bit of AMOGing which happens everywhere. Same with the JACKAL crew. So be tough and hang in there. If it aint working out with the group, leave and sarge solo. People are just people. Whether PUA's or otherwise. Everyone is an AMOG or a cockblock at some level. AMOGGIng and cockblocking are human nature. You might be inadvertently AMOGGing someone without having any intention of doing so.

........you did what i expected you to do.

This weekend, I sarged with Jackal and Terence. I was being sarcastic in conversation at the beginning and not approaching any girls. After a while, I started approaching. I'm going to be honest and say that I don't remember the specifics of the weekend's approaches. The thing that stuck with me is the advice I got from Jackal and Terence. Jackal was teaching me that I need to be aware of alpha violations. Terence was giving me advice on how to have more presence and reclaim (or claim it for the first time) my role as a man. He also gave me fashion advice and lifestyle design insights. I appreciate their help.

SLICK : You need to really cut out the goofy behaviour if you ever want to be respected by a girl or even another human being for that matter. I will give you specific examples :

STEWIE GRIFFIN PYJAMAS
A few weeks ago, we went out for day game. You just woke up in your Stewie Griffin pyjamas and you just came out without even a shower. The whole of Birmingham was looking at your pyjamas in absolute horror. The worst part is that people felt sorry for you more than you should have felt for yourself. It was embarassing for me to walk with you the whole day. I saw lots of beautiful women looking at your pyjamas, then look at me and feel sorry for us. Some women were pointing out your pyjamas to their friends. I just thought that your carelessness ruined any little chance of doing any day game. I know you are only 19 but if you want to go out sarging, you have to stop acting like a kid. I used to be like this. But you need to know where the limits of fun are. You don't need self-deprecation to have fun.

COMING TO SARGE ON A BICYCLE
One day you came to sarge on a freaking bicycle. You just live 10 minutes away from Brindley place man! Why not take a walk. Then you took ages to find a parking place for your bicycle and asking people where the parking lot for bicycles was.

WEARING 3D GLASSES IN SLUG AND LETTUCE
On Saturday, you came to say hi to me in Slug and Lettuce. I was looking at some hot women dancing and they were giving me IOI's. As soon as you came and said hi to me, they started moving away from me. I could tell from their body language that you came into the scene like a leech and sucked out all the energy. Then you took out your 3 D glasses and wore them. Some guy even asked you if they were 3 D glasses. I felt sorry for you man.

I'll try to be more specific with the past weekend's approaches. These aren't going to be in order.

On Broad St., I started loudly saying "woa, woa, woa, woa" and at the same time motioning her to come to me (with my hand). Surprisingly, she came to me. We talked about cigarettes (because she was smoking one). After a minute, I asked her where she was going. She was on her way home, so I let her go on her way.

In the bar room bar at the Mailbox, Jackal was really pushing me hard to do sets. I only did 2 that night. The first one was a 2set of women in their 30s. I approached head on and said "hi". They didn't seem enthusiastic about me talking to them but I tried to plow through. After a minute of that, I ejected.
The other set was a girl by the bar by herself. I walked to her and put my hand out. She looked at me and then looked away.

Jackal, Terence, and I went to Snob's on Friday night. Jackal talked to every single set in the club at the beginning of the night. I approached a 2set in the lounge area. I was plowing through for a good 2 minutes trying to hook them. I ejected. Then, with Jackal's encouragement, I went back and asked the girl on the right if she wanted to dance with me. She said no. Later in the night, Terence and I were ready to leave. I said that we should each try to spin a girl on the dance floor before leaving. He agreed. After a couple minutes of hesitation, we each did it! It felt great. We left the club feeling like badasses.

SLICK :
JACKAL opens a lot of sets. But do you know what is his purpose of being a PUA ? He doesn't want girls because he is married. He can't even number close cos he is scared his wife would know. His main goal is to get attention. He would be totally happy if someone (whether male of female) gives him attention. That is why he is even happy to go to gay clubs where guys would probably look at him. But even gay guys didn't hit on him. What you are doing as a member of the group is giving him your attention. He is sucking on your energy(because you are sucking his dick). I saw TERENCE and JACKAL talking to you in Slug on Friday night. They were completely bullying you and telling you how you should improve your game, filling your brain with loads and loads of crap while they themselves are not getting any action. SLICK, you are now the weakest link and you will be destroyed soon.

Hey everyone!
Been a while, just been reading up on all the stuff I missed and there seems to be a lot of testosterone in the air or lack of. Maybe it's Oestrogen, I don't know- any of you guys menstruating. Why are you all arguing with each other, the whole point of this part of the forum is to note your experience(s) and connect with one another as guys with a common goal.

As for my self, I've been out of it for a while. I've had a lot of personal problems and I think i'm depressed but don't know. I'm indecisive and always have been I can never make up my mind. Anyway, what i do know is that I've been processing everything i've learnt (thx Jackal) and i'm starting to see things differently. Whether it works for me or not I do feel a hell of a lot more confident.

1) I Train obsessively, MMA, Thai-bo, Boxing and Weights. What i'm starting to realise is that i'm really confident post training, when my testosterone is high- a factor a kin to alpha males/jocks who are stereotypically big guys with high testosterone levels. When I train I genuinely don't care about anything or any one. I cross the road with out looking and talk really loud and act like a complete prick.

2) Even though i now know when my confidence is at it's highest, I need to train myself to be confident all the time. To do this I need to do what Jackal taught me, talk to people. Not every conversation has to lead to a number close or sex, just talking to people for the sake of talking reduces the inhibitions that make it so hard for us to talk to the girls we are attracted to. Also the conversation will flow better without an awkwardness to it.

3) With confidence in check, there can't be much else to it. Developing game is basically developing confidence , isn't it? Anyway, i'm writing this because in my mind I know who I want to be. I want to be uncaring, I don't want to worry about the possible failures that life has to offer, you only live once and chances are the girl you pass in the street, she may be the best girl for you and blowing that one chance is something you shouldn't regret. I've met my dream girl 3 possibly 4 times and each time had very strong IOI's but i've been a shy prick- most of my life and i'm sick of it. I'm going to force myself to talk to anyone on the streets, whether it's to do with time, clothes, directions, even if I have a stupid question, I need to do it and i'm going to do it without caring what the other person thinks or if I come across as weird. As far as i'm concerned my interaction with that person will be forgotten within a minute. I know this sounds sad but in the matrix when Neo breaks the Vase and the oracle give him a cookie he forgets all about it.
Doing nothing= No possibility
Just using a simple opener= at least some possibility

I don't know if i'm talking crap but I know by doing this i'm trying to re-programme my behavioural patterns to the way i want them. And i'm tired.

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COBRA, COBRA, COBRA!!!

So Saturday I traveled to the Jam House in Birmingham to meet THE Jackal for the first time.

I was as cautious as ever when meeting him, I really didn't know what to expect, but I figured there's times in your life where you need to take a leap of faith, and this was one of them.

The Jackal was unashamedly confident when I met him. His bite size explanations were so easy to understand, everything is put bluntly and on the table with this guy... contrary to what others might say, HE DEFINITELY KNOWS HIS SHIT.

The afternoon started with the Jackal randomly opening a random guy walking towards us with no warning. I was stunned at the fact the man was warm and receptive to the Jackals behavior, he then did this a second time to another man, then to two women, then a man and a woman! I was completely thrown off guard, but little did I know, he was getting me into STATE.

After a little note taking which included openers and kino, he told me to approach two Asian girls he spotted walking by... at first I was apprehensive but then I was told: "GO NOW! QUICK" and off I went without thinking. My shaky intro was spotted by one of the girls but they seemed fine with the approach, shook there hands and parted ways after a small conversation that didn't really go anywhere. After a few more approaches this time WITH THE JACKAL by my side, I began to relax in the sets and actually have fun.

Walking towards Birmingham City Centre, the Jackal spotted a black girl to which he told me to approach, I did so with a good confident opener to which she replied "Seriously!?" and then walked off! I laughed it off and spoke to Jackal to which he gave me some great advice!

Still walking, we spotted another black girl, to which I approached without thought! I approached her with all the knowledge and experience I garnered from the last 4 sets and opened confidently, told her she was beautiful and got into good conversation. She spoke about her origins and being from London etc etc, and I continued with stories of my quests in London. This 5 minute interaction produced the first number close of the day!

We then met up with two of Jackals friends and then took off to the city centre! In the city centre I would approach girls in clothes shops, on the streets and in passing and then receive feedback from JACKAL on how I did. Multiple times I opened sets ranging from 1 - 4, and I was shocked when I managed to get a number off a girl in a four set! There was a set Jackal opened to which he introduced me into, and that was one that contained two beautiful girls; the topic was that we are going around talking to girls and they were interested in why, I started getting into a debate about it and Jackal stepped in and completely changed the subject, then telling me once the set had finished, that I do not need to validate myself to them as its a DLV, to which I agreed! Wise words .

Jackal and I split, and I went to the bull ring with one of his fellow PUA's, he gave me some great tips on texting, dating, and opening! We did some "Topshop game" and I used one of his openers to open one of the ladies working on the shop floor within the ladies section. "Does this look good on me" I said to the lady whilst holding the skimpiest pair of panties I could find, and she laughed, then we entered into conversation.

My last set of the day was with a girl I spotted in passing whilst my wingman was on the phone. I ran over to her, again with confidence.. she was on her blackberry, so I immediately pulled out my blackberry and copied her. She noticed, and I opened, we started talking, when her ex came over trying to AMOG. "WTF are you doing! Your so rude, are you trying to disrespect me" he said to his ex, and I told him, mate you need to go away your obviously trying to ruin this girls day and I don't think she wants to be around you. He shrugged me off and continued, then she echoed exactly what I said and he walked off (punching the walls as he left). We talked and laughed about what happened, and then I number closed.

I had approached a lot of sets! I surprised myself with how confident I can be! I just hope I don't become state reliant because Jackal is a great guy to get you into state and I hope I don't have to rely on the Jackal to give me a social high every time I want to start approaching.

Very enjoyable experience guys! I recommend this to all who are apprehensive. Don't miss out! The Jackal and his crew are great guys. Can't wait to see what the future holds

COBRA : You seem like a promising candidate from what I read. Yes, confidence is the first and most important thing. I really appreciate your ability to focus on this one key aspect of PUA.

Confidence is basically = sexy + funny.

So you have to be both sexy + funny. If you are plain funny, you will be a comedian like JACKAL who is low in sexiness. Girls will laugh at you cos you are a clown. To improve his sexiness, jackal will have to go to the gym, work out, etc which seems really tough because he will need atleast a year more to get his beer belly down. To be honest, I find JACKAL's humour very rehearsed and not natural. He tries too hard.

If you are just plain sexy, you become a testosterone filled asshole. I have tried to calibrate my energy for a long time because I am 10/10 on sexuality but my humour doesnt come out so obvious and it is more subtle. But recently, I have been able to mix these up quite well and it seems to be working. ROMEO is an example of someone who is high on sexuality but zero on the funny side. He does aggressive kino and caveman style game but since there is no humour, the girls can find it uncomfortable.


In case of people like SLICK or VOLCANO, they are neither funny nor sexy. This makes it hard for them because I don't know the solution to that problem when you are neither sexy nor funny. SLICK goes to the gym but he is a short guy so he will have to work hard to be sexy and not become a victim of homosexuality. VOLCANO thinks he is funny but he basically laughs AT people rather than laughing with them. So sometimes when this backfires, his backside is on fire.

I would say TERENCE is high on sexuality but fake cheerfulness cannot mask your lack of sense of humour.

COBRA:

I would like to mention this since you seem to be intelligent.

Success in PUA according to ADAM LYONS is :

Confidence + Abundance + Ability to escalate.

With plain confidence and no ability to escalate, you will only get ugly girls.

Without abundance, you will be seen as a weirdo or creepy guy.

lol @ DON JUAN J012 . You give me joke!

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Agreed.

I met up with Terence at 7. We talked for a bit while walking to Victoria Square. On the way, we were asking people for directions in order to get into a social mood. I did my first approach next to the fountain. The woman walked away after I delivered the direct opener. I was proud that I approached without hesitation. It would have been hard for me to do that if I was alone.

It was raining, so we walked inside Paradise Forum. I tried to stop girls by the entrance, but both times they did not stop. We walked to the other entrance, next to Wetherspoons. I managed to stop a girl this time, but she walked away after the opener. That's 4 approaches so far.

My 5th approach went great. It was right by the fountain outside Paradise Forum. I did the Yad stop on an Chinese girl and then delivered my direct opener. We talked for a minute about where we were each from and things like that. She said she works at a Chinese restaurant in the city. I said "I have to catch up with my friend, but put your number in my phone and I'll call you later" I gave her my phone and she put her number in. I texted her an hour later and she responded. Feels good man.

The next 5 approaches consisted of me stopping them, delivering the opener, and them walking away. I learned from Terence that sometimes you need to plow through. If they are about to walk away, you say 'one more thing, blablabla' and hold your ground. I saw him do that and it works.
After Terence left, I immediately did an approach by the Paradise Forum fountain. She walked away before I could finish the opener, but I was so proud of myself. I did a solo set. If I want to get to the next level, I need to be comfortable with sarging solo.

I'm now on Broad St. It's 10:50. Let's see where the night takes me. I wandered around Broad St checking out the bars and clubs. Walkabout costs 3 pounds, O bar was 2 pounds. Rococo lounge was free, so I went in there. I stood by the bar for 10 minutes not approaching anyone. Then, I left. I'm thinking about going to Walkabout, we'll see.

I decided to go to Yardbird instead. It closes in 15 minutes, I'm not leaving until I do 1 more approach. I stood by the bar and behind me, there were 3 beautiful women that I wanted to approach. I was very nervous. I got a tap water and drank it while my mind flooded me with excuses not to do it. I finished it and went to the bathroom to pump myself up for the approach. I was in the stall saying "you said you were gonna do it, so fucking do it. Pussy, fucking kill yourself. Kill yourself. Kill yourself" This negative self talk worked because I left the bathroom and immediately approached the girl I liked and said "Hi, I had to come over here and say that I think you're really cute and I'd like to have your number so I can call you later" She didn't look receptive. Her friend said "she doesn't look impressed" and I said to my girl "You're not impressed?" She said 'no'. Her friend said "You're a lovely man, but she just got out of a serious relationship". I ejected. I can't lie. That rejection stung. However, I'm so proud of myself for actually doing it. Last night, I went out and did no approaches. This night, I did 2 approaches solo. To me, that is a victory.